floridalover5623 Posted July 27, 2017 #126 Share Posted July 27, 2017 How do you determine what is fake, and what is real news?To me, an obvious error makes the source's reporting less reliable. The daily news has a picture of Emerald Princess in their story... http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/fbi-investigating-utah-woman-death-aboard-cruise-ship-alaska-article-1.3359528 ...and I don't think their expertise is supposed to be cruise ships. From their report it appears that the incident took place on deck 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Host CJSKIDS Posted July 27, 2017 #127 Share Posted July 27, 2017 They showed a picture of her and released her name on GMA. What a beautiful women. Such a tragedy, especially for her children. They said her daughter was very upset and had just wanted to see her mom. I just can't even imagine. A passenger posted her room number last night on the internet. I wonder if they will be finished with the processing of the room prior to the next sailing. May she Rest In Peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beckntom Posted July 27, 2017 #128 Share Posted July 27, 2017 I just now saw this, buried at the end of a report from news.com/au. Apparently this comment is from an onboard passenger and was posted at 1:38 this morning. Completely unverified, of course. We got a letter on our doors saying we get 25% of our cruise money back plus $150 each to spend how ever we want or cash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolarisKale Posted July 27, 2017 #129 Share Posted July 27, 2017 I'm friends with the neighbor of the family involved. The FBI is sending the girls home this morning. They're completely wrecked by this and have now lost both parents since the father is (obviously) in custody. Please keep them in your thoughts and prayers. They will need a lot of love, support, and therapy to help recover from this. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-T337A using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCruisers Posted July 27, 2017 #130 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Most of us here on the CC forum so appreciate the informative posts ! Please don't stop! Thank you both! RIP, 39 year old woman Reader Agree! Please don't stop the informative posts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridalover5623 Posted July 27, 2017 #131 Share Posted July 27, 2017 I have now come to the conclusion that I hope the cabin number is never disclosed officially. Of course, Cruise Critic denizens will post room numbers (I'm counting on multiple reports.), but if I can live in blissful ignorance, I will be happy. Would you be happy after boarding, finding out that you're in the same cabin? :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridalover5623 Posted July 27, 2017 #132 Share Posted July 27, 2017 I know the cabin number as well but I will not post it so we can all continue to live in blissful ignorance. I know if I had booked on the Emerald Princess I wouldn't want to know either. You better stop reading these posts. Sooner of later you might find out your in the same cabin and it might ruin your trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debcruising Posted July 27, 2017 #133 Share Posted July 27, 2017 In reading this story in the Daily Mail - which tends to sensationalize the news but they do give a lot of information. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4734962/Federal-authorities-announce-charges-cruise-ship-death.html It is very heartbreaking to hear about the women's death, her name, photo, job info and photos of her three children and husband. What is sickening is the reaction of some of the passengers - Such as "Passengers were kept aboard the ship for much of the day Wednesday, prompting some grumbling," and "My kids were so bored.." A sad commentary on our times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Muster Posted July 27, 2017 #134 Share Posted July 27, 2017 So very sad. May she Rest In Peace. My prayers go out for her children, family, and friends. The person who did this needs our prayers, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbappel Posted July 27, 2017 #135 Share Posted July 27, 2017 I'm friends with the neighbor of the family involved. The FBI is sending the girls home this morning. They're completely wrecked by this and have now lost both parents since the father is (obviously) in custody. Please keep them in your thoughts and prayers. They will need a lot of love, support, and therapy to help recover from this. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-T337A using Forums mobile app If it is appropriate, at some time please let these girls know that there is a whole community that cares about them. People who have never met them and were touched by this tragedy. People who wish them well and people who pray for them. They are far from alone, sad to say. Beth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigby the Dog Posted July 27, 2017 #136 Share Posted July 27, 2017 I just now saw this, buried at the end of a report from news.com/au. Apparently this comment is from an onboard passenger and was posted at 1:38 this morning. Completely unverified, of course. We got a letter on our doors saying we get 25% of our cruise money back plus $150 each to spend how ever we want or cash One would hope that those in adjacent cabins to the incident would get their entire cruise money back - or a future cruise free. For the rest of the passengers, this should be acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fla33023 Posted July 27, 2017 #137 Share Posted July 27, 2017 So very sad. May she Rest In Peace. My prayers go out for her children, family, and friends. The person who did this needs our prayers, too. Wow, I never even looked at it that way, but you're very right. A person who would kill his wife in front of his children needs a lot of prayers too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcnvcanada Posted July 27, 2017 #138 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Before this turns into some of a scrum, we wish to send our thoughts to the family of the lady. May she rest in peace. Also to all the passengers effected in this tragedy . It had been a hard journey on all, passengers, and the crew. A special shout out to Augahound for starting this thread and updating it with sound information. We do hope that you will be able to get past this horrible experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framer Posted July 27, 2017 #139 Share Posted July 27, 2017 One would hope that those in adjacent cabins to the incident would get their entire cruise money back - or a future cruise free. For the rest of the passengers, this should be acceptable. WHY? Why does Princess need to give a deal to those folks. Princess was not responsible for what happened. Sometimes we need to just flow with the situation and move on. framer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigby the Dog Posted July 27, 2017 #140 Share Posted July 27, 2017 WHY? Why does Princess need to give a deal to those folks. Princess was not responsible for what happened. Sometimes we need to just flow with the situation and move on. framer I believe that I wrote "one would hope" - nowhere did I state that Princess needs to do this and nowhere did I state that Princess was responsible for what happened. Sometimes we need to just flow with the actual words of a post or move on. That being said, these passengers would have been put out more than those who were not close to the scene of the crime. It would be good PR and good business practice by Princess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo222 Posted July 27, 2017 #141 Share Posted July 27, 2017 In reading this story in the Daily Mail - which tends to sensationalize the news but they do give a lot of information. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4734962/Federal-authorities-announce-charges-cruise-ship-death.html. Thank you for the link. That was the most detailed account I have read so far. And, thanks to the 'hound for his initial post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satxdiver Posted July 27, 2017 #142 Share Posted July 27, 2017 We are in Seattle right now waiting to board the Ruby for our AK cruise (luckily not the Emerald) and the Emerald has been on the news this morning. A quick google of the incident brought up quite a few hits with even more information. Glad to hear that Princess has stepped forward and tried to give consideration to the many onboard who were there to have a great vacation. Sorry for the pax who had their vacation impacted and particularly sorry for those whose life has now been turned upside down. Unfortunately domestic violence happens all too often and can happen anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cflutist Posted July 27, 2017 #143 Share Posted July 27, 2017 http://www.ktuu.com/content/news/Court-documents-shed-light-on-Juneau-cruise-ship-killing-436980323.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysfrantic Posted July 27, 2017 #144 Share Posted July 27, 2017 The MSM is taking advantage here for clicks. That's sad. No, it is a newsworthy story. The media should report the news as it happens. And by the way, even Fox covered it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRPWDunIL Posted July 27, 2017 #145 Share Posted July 27, 2017 WHY? Why does Princess need to give a deal to those folks. Princess was not responsible for what happened. Sometimes we need to just flow with the situation and move on. framer I'm not sure if you have ever been directly affected by a tragedy of this magnitude (I hope not), but the effect on persons is incredible. From survivor's guilt to nightmares about what you heard or saw (or think you heard or saw). Suffice to say, even for those tangentially present, it can take YEARS to get over. For the first several months, I would cringe and cowl just hearing sirens headed my direction if I was anywhere near the site of the incident. No, it was not Princess' fault or responsibility for the actual incident. But good businesses are proactive and do all in their power to treat their customers well and to be concerned for their well-being. There will be many passengers and crew (and even law enforcement) that will need to be supported as they work through the emotions triggered by this event. Going with the flow is not possible, nor a good idea, for many involved. I hope that some counseling support is provided as the ship moves to its final destination. I think it would be much appreciated in my experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted July 27, 2017 #146 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Our local news station just talked about this sad situation on the Emerald Princess. Prayers for all who were there when the woman was murdered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare abbydancer2003 Posted July 27, 2017 #147 Share Posted July 27, 2017 WHY? Why does Princess need to give a deal to those folks. Princess was not responsible for what happened. Sometimes we need to just flow with the situation and move on. framer While I agree they were not responsible, the ship did miss Tracey Arm, and I'm sure for many that was the highlight of the trip. It's a nice gesture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alaskanexplorer Posted July 27, 2017 #148 Share Posted July 27, 2017 The FBI has released more information about what happened. http://www.ktva.com/fbi-names-utah-woman-killed-aboard-cruise-ship-off-juneau-235/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeBeach Posted July 27, 2017 #149 Share Posted July 27, 2017 ABC News just updated the story. A witness claims the husband was attempting to "throw her body overboard and he was able to pull her back." No mention of who the witness was or how he came to be on the balcony. Husband reportedly told the FBI that he "killed her because she would not stop laughing at him." I listened to the story twice and noted the 2 comments to make them as accurate as they were reported. Very sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al baby Posted July 27, 2017 #150 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Why is the homicide any of our business? Why would it not be our business ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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