Milwaukee Eight Posted September 8, 2017 #1051 Share Posted September 8, 2017 This gas shortage thing is scary. I don't know how the people in Florida are expected to evacuate. What we have learned. Keep cars topped off during Hurricane season. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribill Posted September 8, 2017 #1052 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I am sincerely asking this question out of ignorance after seeing the news this morning. Overhead footage of the congestion on the northbound Florida highways while the southbound lanes were largely empty makes me wonder why the authorities didn't arrange for lane reversal on some of the southbound lanes? Governor said that the southbound lanes had to be going in that direction for emergency vehicles. It would be quite difficult to safely have northbound travel on only some southbound lanes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyinpa Posted September 8, 2017 #1053 Share Posted September 8, 2017 My house value is approx $475k and my insurance is $2600 approx annually but my hurricane deductible is $22k everything else it's $5k Sent from my iPhone using Forums wow killer price and deductible. who can absorb 22K ded, even half that value at 11K which i'm imagining is more the mid range. i thought FL was supposed to be cheap living Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagsfan Posted September 8, 2017 #1054 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Sure, im in palm beach. drinking my coffee while ice maker reloads. Here in Jax, I've laid in supplies, everything bagels, pizza, cheese quesadillas and rum. I'm ready! Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribill Posted September 8, 2017 #1055 Share Posted September 8, 2017 speaking of hotels. what happens in a situation like this. no doubt any hotel is and will be full for a very long time. so if a 'new' traveler has a reservation, do they kick out the local or tell the new traveler sorry we have no rooms Usual practice is not to kick out the occupant of the room and to deny the person with a reservation. In normal times, the displaced person with a reservation would be sent to a nearby equivalent hotel, but that would not be practical in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted September 8, 2017 #1056 Share Posted September 8, 2017 2500 sq ft under air, two story, 4 bedroom, total around 3900 sq feet with garage and patio spaces, pool. Our insurance just went up from $3800 last year to $4300 this year, never had a claim. And to put into perspective, we have paid for a wind mitigation inspection and we receive approx $3k discount due to having built in hurricane shutters, hurricane rated garage door, roof meets certain newer codes, etc. I am on a lake, but not in a flood zone we can purchase FEMA flood cheap, which I do. $425 for something like $300K building and $80K contents. And while not exactly building value, just to give an idea, zillow has my property estimate at around $420K. I am in Palm Beach County What lake are you on? Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted September 8, 2017 #1057 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Just heard on the news they were probably going to open southbound for northbound travel in next 6-12 hours after emergency supplies have been delivered. Of course only time will tell. What news? Your in Massachusetts, I'm in Florida, haven't heard anything of the sort. #FAKENEWS Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagsfan Posted September 8, 2017 #1058 Share Posted September 8, 2017 If you are not familair, there are links at the bottom to 2 Miami cams, Port Canaveral, Port Everglades/Fort Lauderdale, and Tampa. I plan on watching a lot this weekend with probably at least 1000 or more others. I've been watching the Key West Harbor cam. Mostly blue skies but clouds approaching from the east. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted September 8, 2017 #1059 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I was just wondering if they ever do this. I was watching a live feed from a helicopter and only big semis were headed southbound. I guess once those cease they will open them up, which is great! How do you Yankees (my SO is one) come up with these things. Do you do that in PA during a blizzard? More #FAKENEWS. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted September 8, 2017 #1060 Share Posted September 8, 2017 There is absolutely no gas shortage. The problem is that the tankers cant get to the gas stations fast enough. The tankers are being escorted through traffice by FHP. Florida has a priority on fuel delivery. Over 13 million gallons of fuel was delivered to Port of Tampa and Port Canaveral this morning for statewide distribution. Might not have a shortage. We were able to find gas away from I95 at the local knowledge place but I will say from GasBuddy, many by the interstates are out or have long lines. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted September 8, 2017 #1061 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Florida Governor just said won't use counter flow, it impedes emergency vehicles. North on I-75 they are instead using emergency lane as extra traffic lane all the way to Georgia boarder... Not only that, but it is a monumental effort to use counter flow. Considering drivers would have to enter via exit ramps and exit via on ramps, causing an irregular flow of traffic at the intersections (exiting traffic wouldn't even see a traffic light), police would need to man each intersection for traffic control. With how many houses/businesses are unoccupied right now, the police need to be focused on other things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spleenstomper Posted September 8, 2017 #1062 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Barbuda's trees are gone. What was green is now brown. Sad Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted September 8, 2017 #1063 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Not only that, but it is a monumental effort to use counter flow. Considering drivers would have to enter via exit ramps and exit via on ramps, causing an irregular flow of traffic at the intersections (exiting traffic wouldn't even see a traffic light), police would need to man each intersection for traffic control. With how many houses/businesses are unoccupied right now, the police need to be focused on other things. Yep, but the Yankees out of harms way KNOW what's going on HERE. Got to love it. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted September 8, 2017 #1064 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Barbuda's trees are gone. What was green is now brown. Sad Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Really? You can tell this how? Are you onsite? Yes they got hit hard. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrD Posted September 8, 2017 #1065 Share Posted September 8, 2017 How do you Yankees (my SO is one) come up with these things. Do you do that in PA during a blizzard? More #FAKENEWS. Sent from my iPhone using Forums What the hell does being a Yankee have to do with it? Anyway prepare to be schooled: Hurricane evacuation[edit] [/url]Hurricane evacuation route marking near the Texas Gulf Coast Beginning in the 1990s, many states in the Southeastern United States adopted from coastal areas using contraflow lane reversals on . State highway departments have coordinated on plans for traffic direction with state agencies, constructed highway median crossovers, and installed signage for drivers and barriers and swing arms to inhibit wrong-way collisions. Most evacuation plans involve only a single state; however, the states of Louisiana and Mississippi have developed coordinated plans to evacuate the New Orleans metropolitan area using Interstate 55 and Interstate 59. Current contraflow evacuation plans exist for: Alabama Mobile via I-65[2] Modular Jersey barriers are semi-permanently installed as a median barrier between the left and second-from-left bridges, along Interstate 4 near . They can be quickly removed to allow some eastbound traffic to transfer to the westbound lanes when contraflow is enacted. Florida[3] Jacksonville, via I-10 Pensacola, via I-10 (eastbound) South Florida (Miami/Fort Lauderdale), via Florida's Turnpike and Alligator Alley Southwest Florida, via I-75 The Space Coast, via SR 528 Tampa Bay, via I-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spleenstomper Posted September 8, 2017 #1066 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Really? You can tell this how? Are you onsite? Yes they got hit hard. Sent from my iPhone using Forums There is this neat invention called satellite that shows no trees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted September 8, 2017 #1067 Share Posted September 8, 2017 There is this neat invention called satellite that shows no trees. I have neglected to thank you for all the updates. Sooo...thank you so much for the update posts and pictures you have provided. It is appreciated. Now we just have to hope that our family, friends, and neighbors stay safe...and we still have homes to come home to! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grumpus Posted September 8, 2017 #1068 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Barbuda's trees are gone. What was green is now brown. Sad Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro I assume the picture on the left is the after pic? Looks like there is less vegetation on the south end of the island and a little less around the pond in the northern quadrant? I'm not sure those aerial pics really show the true devastation of the island but thank you for sharing them. [emoji106] Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted September 8, 2017 #1069 Share Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) There is this neat invention called satellite that shows no trees. Show us those pictures. Your photos posted don't. I saw clouds on one and not the others. I sure don't see any trees. Does anyone else? Sent from my iPhone using Forums Edited September 8, 2017 by Milwaukee Eight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted September 8, 2017 #1070 Share Posted September 8, 2017 What the hell does being a Yankee have to do with it? Anyway prepare to be schooled: Hurricane evacuation[edit] [/url] Hurricane evacuation route marking near the Texas Gulf Coast Beginning in the 1990s, many states in the Southeastern United States adopted from coastal areas using contraflow lane reversals on . State highway departments have coordinated on plans for traffic direction with state agencies, constructed highway median crossovers, and installed signage for drivers and barriers and swing arms to inhibit wrong-way collisions. Most evacuation plans involve only a single state; however, the states of Louisiana and Mississippi have developed coordinated plans to evacuate the New Orleans metropolitan area using Interstate 55 and Interstate 59. Current contraflow evacuation plans exist for: Alabama Mobile via I-65[2] Modular Jersey barriers are semi-permanently installed as a median barrier between the left and second-from-left bridges, along Interstate 4 near . They can be quickly removed to allow some eastbound traffic to transfer to the westbound lanes when contraflow is enacted. Florida[3] Jacksonville, via I-10 Pensacola, via I-10 (eastbound) South Florida (Miami/Fort Lauderdale), via Florida's Turnpike and Alligator Alley Southwest Florida, via I-75 The Space Coast, via SR 528 Tampa Bay, via I-4 I was born in Miami and raised in Florida (except during my Army days) and have NEVER seen these routes on the road. What experience do you have in Denver with Hurricanes? My comment is was about dual flow highways. Here in the South, Southbound lanes are typically open for 1st Responders. Don't know what they do about Hurricanes in Colorado. We love you giving us Crackers advice. [emoji33] Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrD Posted September 8, 2017 #1071 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I was born in Miami and raised in Florida (except during my Army days) and have NEVER seen these routes on the road. What experience do you have in Denver with Hurricanes? Sent from my iPhone using Forums I lived in New Orleans from 1990-2004 and we used it a few times over the causeway during some storms (I don't recall which). And I know how to google something before I comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted September 8, 2017 #1072 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I lived in New Orleans from 1990-2004 and we used it a few times over the causeway during some storms (I don't recall which). And I know how to google something before I comment. Never seen those marking on any highway. We see bikes route markings all the time. Post a picture of one in Florida. This is not NOLA. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreadpirate3 Posted September 8, 2017 #1073 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Tampa is going to get a direct hit. Sent from Middle Earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
destiny217 Posted September 8, 2017 #1074 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Just heard on the news they were probably going to open southbound for northbound travel in next 6-12 hours after emergency supplies have been delivered. Of course only time will tell. I heard the same thing on msnbc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coopdog08 Posted September 8, 2017 #1075 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Never seen those marking on any highway. We see bikes route markings all the time. Post a picture of one in Florida. This is not NOLA. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Mil 8, are you related to BUU? If not I suggest the two of you hook up because all the two of you do is bicker with every poster on these boards. Or better yet lock yourselves in a forum together and go at it and leave everyone else alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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