mainmast Posted September 7, 2017 #1 Share Posted September 7, 2017 We are from the UK and after reading all about the uncertainty of cruises sailing this weekend I can understand your concerns. I myself would not like to be 'left in the dark'. I understand no body know's what is the best approach and serious decisions have to be made. This is not something new and a 'one off' , this time of year is hurricane season. Would it be better 'all round' to avoid itinaries for the carribbean and put more ships in Europe to avoid this type of chaos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGinMTL Posted September 7, 2017 #2 Share Posted September 7, 2017 (edited) As long as people book. They will stay. Not everybody can afford to fly to Europe. And these cruises are usually cheaper ( because of the uncertainty). Normally, it hasn't been this bad. But I admit that 2017 will go down in history. ps - I am flying out in a few hrs to do the British Isles cruise out of Southampton. But had I booked the Caribbean this week, I would be staying home. Edited September 7, 2017 by CGinMTL add ps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare sparks1093 Posted September 7, 2017 #3 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Out of this hurricane season there have been two storms that have (or will) impact cruises over the course of a few weeks out of the 5 month hurricane season. I don't think any company is willing to forego 5 months worth of profits for a few weeks of chaos (that may not happen to begin with). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul929207 Posted September 7, 2017 #4 Share Posted September 7, 2017 I think there were only 3 or 4 cruises cancelled due to Harvey. It is too early to guess how many, if any, will be canceled due to Irma. This is a bad year for these storms. Remember, if the ship sails, the cruise line gets their money. Passengers who can't get to the ship are out of luck unless they have insurance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easyboy Posted September 7, 2017 #5 Share Posted September 7, 2017 The strength, coverage and speed of a hurricane are not all the same. It is hard to always assume the worst for business. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchoolNurseMom Posted September 7, 2017 #6 Share Posted September 7, 2017 For those of us willing to gamble....pricing for Sept and Oct cruises are really good! My husband and I have cruised every September since 2010. Had one rough night in 2010 which happened to be the first night of our very first cruise. We were following behind a storm as she headed up the Atlantic coast. We didn't know any better, we thought it was normal to "rock and roll' like that. In 2016 we thought surely our route would be changed by Julio/Javier (? not sure on the name). It ended up being the calmest seas we have ever encountered. It was quite eerie how calm it was. Now, this year we are scheduled for Oasis on Sept 17 and have no worries. As long as we can drive into port and get on the ship, we do not care where they take us! No cooking or cleaning for a week! Food and entertainment included! :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Keith1010 Posted September 7, 2017 #7 Share Posted September 7, 2017 The hurricane season is quite long. There have been years where there are very few if any hurricanes that impact cruising. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted September 7, 2017 #8 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Not every embarkation port is impacted by every storm - and when a port is impacted, it is usually for a day or two; and for the remaining. 184 days of hurricane season it is likely to be business as usual. Not every sailing area is impacted by a given storm - the southern and western Caribbean have not been impacted by Irma. Bermuda might be impacted , but only if other areas are left alone. Yes, tropical storms are disruptive - but the cruise industry seems able to adjust - particularly because many of their ships are elsewhere for much of the season: Alaska, the Mediterranean and Northern Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkacmom Posted September 7, 2017 #9 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Hurricane season is 6 months long, and most of the time, ships are diverted around be storms. It appears this year, the storms are hitting departure ports more than usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llonergan3 Posted September 7, 2017 #10 Share Posted September 7, 2017 For those of us willing to gamble....pricing for Sept and Oct cruises are really good! My husband and I have cruised every September since 2010. Had one rough night in 2010 which happened to be the first night of our very first cruise. We were following behind a storm as she headed up the Atlantic coast. We didn't know any better, we thought it was normal to "rock and roll' like that. In 2016 we thought surely our route would be changed by Julio/Javier (? not sure on the name). It ended up being the calmest seas we have ever encountered. It was quite eerie how calm it was. Now, this year we are scheduled for Oasis on Sept 17 and have no worries. As long as we can drive into port and get on the ship, we do not care where they take us! No cooking or cleaning for a week! Food and entertainment included! :cool: Amen to that sister!!! That's a true cruiser!! Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare geoherb Posted September 7, 2017 #11 Share Posted September 7, 2017 And while hurricane season is officially six months of the year, tropical storms can happen in other months. Tropical Storm Arlene happened in April this year. There have been 18 such storms so far this century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb at sea Posted September 7, 2017 #12 Share Posted September 7, 2017 There are rarely hurricanes that affect more than a sailing or two.....this has been an "edge of the seat" year. That's why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashland Posted September 7, 2017 #13 Share Posted September 7, 2017 No need to send them to Europe...We'll take a few here on the west coast gladly ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPT Trips Posted September 7, 2017 #14 Share Posted September 7, 2017 No need to send them to Europe...We'll take a few here on the west coast gladly ;) What ports will we visit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashland Posted September 7, 2017 #15 Share Posted September 7, 2017 What ports will we visit? Either the Mexican Riviera or better yet north from San Pedro to San Francisco..it's worked for RCI before and continues to work for other cruiseline's. Also how nice would it be for some long round trips from San Pedro to Hawaii. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy157 Posted September 8, 2017 #16 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Not every embarkation port is impacted by every storm - and when a port is impacted, it is usually for a day or two; and for the remaining. 184 days of hurricane season it is likely to be business as usual. . This. It's like asking, "Why do airlines fly in winter?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDawg Posted September 8, 2017 #17 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Why do cruise lines sail during hurricane season? Why do people voluntarily buy cruises during hurricane season? Why do people live in areas that are prone to hurricanes? Why do people live in places that are prone to earthquakes? Why do people build houses on flood plains? Why do people who cannot swim choose to live on an island? Why do people continue to smoke cigarettes, knowing that it will probably kill them? Why do Fools Fall in Love? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bUU Posted September 8, 2017 #18 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Either the Mexican Riviera or better yet north from San Pedro to San Francisco..it's worked for RCI before and continues to work for other cruiseline's. Also how nice would it be for some long round trips from San Pedro to Hawaii.If you mean San Pedro CA to San Francisco CA or San Pedro CA to Honolulu HI then as things are now Royal Caribbean offering either would violate PVSA. San Pedro to Vancouver would work, and San Pedro to Ensenada would work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llonergan3 Posted September 8, 2017 #19 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Why do Fools Fall in Love? :D DirtyDawg You made my day!! Thanks, hope you have a great and safe weekend! Llonergan3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate45 Posted September 8, 2017 #20 Share Posted September 8, 2017 So being new to this hurricane situation, how soon do we find out whether our cruise itinerary is changed? We specifically booked a cruise for Turks and Caicos. If we can't go, we might consider cancelling. Will we get a notification for the cruise line or our travel agent about any changes, and when can we expect it? We don't cruise for two months but I hear some places will not be near up and running for many months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bUU Posted September 8, 2017 #21 Share Posted September 8, 2017 So being new to this hurricane situation, how soon do we find out whether our cruise itinerary is changed?There is no definitive answer because things could change midway through your cruise. In the past we have woken up on a cruise to find that the next day we weren't going where we were originally headed, and so we had to scramble to figure out what we were going to do instead of our scheduled excursion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underwatr Posted September 8, 2017 #22 Share Posted September 8, 2017 If you mean San Pedro CA to San Francisco CA or San Pedro CA to Honolulu HI then as things are now Royal Caribbean offering either would violate PVSA. San Pedro to Vancouver would work, and San Pedro to Ensenada would work. "San Pedro to San Francisco" doesn't necessarily mean a one-way itinerary. As long as it's a closed loop cruise (heading back to San Pedro after San Francisco), Ensenada is close enough for a short port call to make it legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bUU Posted September 8, 2017 #23 Share Posted September 8, 2017 As long as it's a closed loop cruise (heading back to San Pedro after San Francisco), Ensenada is close enough for a short port call to make it legal.That's why I was explicit in my reply, saying, "If you mean San Pedro to San Francisco" and so not referring to some other itinerary that included both, as Ashland's original comment could have been interpreted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted September 8, 2017 #24 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Out of this hurricane season there have been two storms that have (or will) impact cruises over the course of a few weeks out of the 5 month hurricane season. I don't think any company is willing to forego 5 months worth of profits for a few weeks of chaos (that may not happen to begin with). Just a quick look at 2018's schedule - there are well over 500 Caribbean sailings offered: Carnival (15 or so ships) , Celebrity (4 ships), NCL (over 10 ships), and Royal Caribbean (7 ships) - not to mention smaller players - during hurricane season. The Caribbean in hurricane season is a huge segment of the cruise industry's market. The lines have a huge investment, and the market appears to have a huge hunger, in that market that time of year. Both sides seem willing to accept the challenges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bUU Posted September 8, 2017 #25 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Both sides seem willing to accept the challenges.I suppose an argument could be made that the consumers side includes many whose willingness is contingent on their willful and consistent denial that there is a cruise contract with terms and conditions (and not just about this) that they're agreeing to when they purchase a cruise. At what point is it the cruise line's responsibility to keep the consumers from purchasing things for which they doggedly refuse to perform due diligence? (I am very confident that the answer is, "never.") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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