RuthC Posted March 29, 2023 #751 Share Posted March 29, 2023 31 minutes ago, KroozNut said: Again, I go back to my previous comment that the only thing that would make you happy is totally banning smoking everywhere on all ships. He wouldn't be the first, and won't be the last. There was even a post one time from someone who proclaimed that he should be able to go to any place on the ship he wanted and not have to deal with smoking. He should get 100% of the ship available to him, and smokers should get 0%. Many others over the years have implied as much based on the sum total of their posts over time. Then, of course, there is always the fun of the anti-smokers not able to agree on where the smoking area should be. Everyone has a different favorite spot where they don't want any smoking whatsoever. Covers about 100% of the ship when you add it all up. By Jove, I think you've got it! 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tom-n-Cheryl Posted March 29, 2023 #752 Share Posted March 29, 2023 For smokers -- isn't there generally a lot of unused space on the lifeboats? Very underutilized!!! (just having some fun here) 😉 Tom 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipeeinthepools Posted March 29, 2023 #753 Share Posted March 29, 2023 1 minute ago, KroozNut said: It's used as a bar.. duh. and the nonsmokers that want to enjoy that space? Your recommended options seem to be getting smaller and smaller. How about deck 15.. jeez Duh, I'm not sure anyone on our cruise ever saw it open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HELENPSL Posted March 29, 2023 #754 Share Posted March 29, 2023 There are 6 ships that I know of that have no smoking in the casino. They’ve already made the smoking area smaller on several ships by putting up the half wall of fake greenery. Sorry but I don’t think you will ever have what you want which are totally non smoking ships. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KroozNut Posted March 30, 2023 #755 Share Posted March 30, 2023 5 hours ago, Ipeeinthepools said: The Deck 9 Seaview Pool area serves as an outdoor dining area for the Lido buffet. They serve coffee and juice in the morning during the breakfast hours. I'm well aware of that.. I just finished a 7-day sailing on Nieuw Statendam. 🤨 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KroozNut Posted March 30, 2023 #756 Share Posted March 30, 2023 4 hours ago, Tom-n-Cheryl said: For smokers -- isn't there generally a lot of unused space on the lifeboats? Very underutilized!!! Except on the Titanic.. 😏 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KroozNut Posted March 30, 2023 #757 Share Posted March 30, 2023 7 hours ago, RuthC said: He wouldn't be the first, and won't be the last. There was even a post one time from someone who proclaimed that he should be able to go to any place on the ship he wanted and not have to deal with smoking. He should get 100% of the ship available to him, and smokers should get 0%. Many others over the years have implied as much based on the sum total of their posts over time. Then, of course, there is always the fun of the anti-smokers not able to agree on where the smoking area should be. Everyone has a different favorite spot where they don't want any smoking whatsoever. Covers about 100% of the ship when you add it all up. By Jove, I think you've got it! You nailed it Ruth 👍 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laminator Posted March 31, 2023 #758 Share Posted March 31, 2023 On 3/29/2023 at 5:11 PM, RuthC said: He wouldn't be the first, and won't be the last. There was even a post one time from someone who proclaimed that he should be able to go to any place on the ship he wanted and not have to deal with smoking. He should get 100% of the ship available to him, and smokers should get 0%. Many others over the years have implied as much based on the sum total of their posts over time. Then, of course, there is always the fun of the anti-smokers not able to agree on where the smoking area should be. Everyone has a different favorite spot where they don't want any smoking whatsoever. Covers about 100% of the ship when you add it all up. By Jove, I think you've got it! I would love to be on a cruise with you. A wealth of knowledge and common sense. My wife loves your posts also. 5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuthC Posted March 31, 2023 #759 Share Posted March 31, 2023 3 hours ago, Laminator said: I would love to be on a cruise with you. A wealth of knowledge and common sense. My wife loves your posts also. Thank you (and your wife, too). You have made my day! 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipeeinthepools Posted April 1, 2023 #760 Share Posted April 1, 2023 Eliminate all smoking indoors and then we can talk. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tom-n-Cheryl Posted April 1, 2023 #761 Share Posted April 1, 2023 9 hours ago, Ipeeinthepools said: Eliminate all smoking indoors and then we can talk. It will happen, mark my word... just not on our timeline (edited to be more accurate!) Probably long before whirled peas. In the meantime, let's all just get along (big hug) 🙂 Tom 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare richstowe Posted April 1, 2023 #762 Share Posted April 1, 2023 3 hours ago, Tom-n-Cheryl said: whirled peas. Is this a new MDR side dish ? 😁 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KroozNut Posted April 1, 2023 #763 Share Posted April 1, 2023 14 hours ago, Ipeeinthepools said: Eliminate all smoking indoors and then we can talk. Who's 'we'... do you have a mouse in your pocket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KroozNut Posted April 1, 2023 #764 Share Posted April 1, 2023 5 hours ago, Tom-n-Cheryl said: It will happen, mark my word... just not on our timeline (edited to be more accurate!) Probably long before whirled peas. In the meantime, let's all just get along (big hug) 🙂 Tom Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya Oh Lord, kumbaya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 3rdGenCunarder Posted April 3, 2023 #765 Share Posted April 3, 2023 On 3/27/2023 at 10:02 PM, HamOp said: Very good! When I was teaching, and kids whined about something, I would say "Don't make me quote Mick." To get back to the smoking issues, I don't smoke and I hate the smell, but I have to accept that people do smoke. I can't think of a better place for the smoking section (from a nonsmoker's POV) than outside on a deck. Maybe the wind doesn't always blow the smoke away, but at least there's a chance that it will. And if it doesn't, I have other places I can go. Where the smell cannot blow away is the adjacent area of the Lido. On Eurodam this winter, the inner doors between the aft deck and the Lido were usually propped open. Every time someone came in from the bar/smoking side, the outer slider doors opened wide, and a gust of smoke smell blew in. Sometimes worse than others, but it definitely was there. I suppose I should have found a supervisor (don't know that I ever saw one) to complain about the doors, but I just tried to always go to the salad bar on the other side. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandiego1 Posted April 3, 2023 #766 Share Posted April 3, 2023 8 hours ago, 3rdGenCunarder said: Very good! When I was teaching, and kids whined about something, I would say "Don't make me quote Mick." To get back to the smoking issues, I don't smoke and I hate the smell, but I have to accept that people do smoke. I can't think of a better place for the smoking section (from a nonsmoker's POV) than outside on a deck. Maybe the wind doesn't always blow the smoke away, but at least there's a chance that it will. And if it doesn't, I have other places I can go. Where the smell cannot blow away is the adjacent area of the Lido. On Eurodam this winter, the inner doors between the aft deck and the Lido were usually propped open. Every time someone came in from the bar/smoking side, the outer slider doors opened wide, and a gust of smoke smell blew in. Sometimes worse than others, but it definitely was there. I suppose I should have found a supervisor (don't know that I ever saw one) to complain about the doors, but I just tried to always go to the salad bar on the other side. The doors are always kept open on every HAL ship I’ve been on. I was told it is for accessibility issues. People with walkers and scooters can’t open the doors. They aren’t automatic bills the doors between the Lido buffet and the indoor pool. I too have smelled the smoke inside the Lido and won’t sit in the buffet area on the aft portion of the Starboard side of the ship, nor spend time at the aft pool. While I hate the smell of smoke, it’s their right to smoke in that area. So I avoid that area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipeeinthepools Posted April 3, 2023 #767 Share Posted April 3, 2023 13 minutes ago, sandiego1 said: The doors are always kept open on every HAL ship I’ve been on. I was told it is for accessibility issues. People with walkers and scooters can’t open the doors. They aren’t automatic bills the doors between the Lido buffet and the indoor pool. I too have smelled the smoke inside the Lido and won’t sit in the buffet area on the aft portion of the Starboard side of the ship, nor spend time at the aft pool. While I hate the smell of smoke, it’s their right to smoke in that area. So I avoid that area. If the smoke affects other areas, perhaps HAL needs to move the smoking area. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuthC Posted April 3, 2023 #768 Share Posted April 3, 2023 As someone who has used a scooter on every class of ship (except for the late Prinsendam), I can attest that the doors from the Lido to the deck aft of it are not always open. On the newer ships there are electric eyes, and on a couple of ships there was an electric eye on one set of doors, but not the other set (true on both sides). I could get through one set and then be stuck until a kind person came through and I could continue my journey. I would thank God for the smoking section right there, with its constant flow of people coming and going. Heading back in I could always ask one of them to get the doors for me. I was always cheerfully assisted. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trapper44 Posted April 3, 2023 #769 Share Posted April 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Ipeeinthepools said: If the smoke affects other areas, perhaps HAL needs to move the smoking area. I would think this poor horse is dead by now. Please stop beating on him. You are not going to change this to what you want, at least not right now. 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipeeinthepools Posted April 4, 2023 #770 Share Posted April 4, 2023 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Trapper44 said: I would think this poor horse is dead by now. Please stop beating on him. You are not going to change this to what you want, at least not right now. Never give up. Celebrity has really restricted smoking on board, no reason HAL can't do the same. Edited April 4, 2023 by Ipeeinthepools 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipeeinthepools Posted April 4, 2023 #771 Share Posted April 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Trapper44 said: I would think this poor horse is dead by now. Please stop beating on him. You are not going to change this to what you want, at least not right now. I'll bet you thought there would always be smoking in the casino in all ships. NEVER GIVE UP. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare lyndarra Posted April 6, 2023 #772 Share Posted April 6, 2023 On 4/4/2023 at 12:33 PM, Ipeeinthepools said: I'll bet you thought there would always be smoking in the casino in all ships. NEVER GIVE UP. And balconies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LHP Posted April 7, 2023 #773 Share Posted April 7, 2023 (edited) On 8/24/2018 at 7:22 PM, WDeany said: STOP! People need to smoke and anything you complain about will not detract from that. Give them their nights in the casino (don't go there those nights if you have a problem since they are probably making more money from the smokers) and give them the FEW areas of the ship they can smoke! They are also paying a premium for the SA balcony cabins for which they cannot use to smoke.! STOP STOP COMPLAINING! These are the rules and if you don't like them, sail another cruise line! Edited April 7, 2023 by LHP Delete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LHP Posted April 7, 2023 #774 Share Posted April 7, 2023 Just now, LHP said: You do realize that smoking is a privilege , not a right. And as a privilege , it can be restricted not to harm innocent people . No one has the right to harm someone else. 1 minute ago, LHP said: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LHP Posted April 7, 2023 #775 Share Posted April 7, 2023 On 3/28/2023 at 1:39 PM, mightycruisequeen said: But no one in the vicinity of the drinkers is forced to take sips of every glass of booze being consumed around them. You are correct . And Smoking, just like drinking, is not a freedom or a right . It is a privilege and as such can be regulated to stop the true right of innocent people not to be harmed … which is why a person is not allowed to drink and drive . No one has the right to harm another human being . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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