What Happens if Guests 1&2 cancel and we are 3&4

[Sula Lato]

We are traveling  with another couple under 3&4 guests free (port charges).  They may have to cancel, so can we takeover the reservation they have paid for already (past final payment)?  They would not get a refund, but could we keep the cabin? Also wood we get/have to keep their amenities? Any help is appreciated.

[Paul Bogle]

As long as the booking isn't canceled and is paid in full you are good to go. You are still the 3rd and 4th passengers so you do not inherit and "free at sea" offers the first two passengers were eligible for.

The no shows will have port charges refunded to the method of payment.

[Homosassa]

31 minutes ago, Paul Bogle said:

As long as the booking isn't canceled and is paid in full you are good to go. You are still the 3rd and 4th passengers so you do not inherit and "free at sea" offers the first two passengers were eligible for.

The no shows will have port charges refunded to the method of payment.

 

Not so fast.

 

I remember a post from some time ago where passenger number two cancelled after final payment and passenger number three then found out she was responsible for what would have been her fare as second passenger (also third passenger and fourth passenger free in room  deal).

 

You need to talk to NCL about this, especially if passengers one and two plan to make a claim under any trip insurance they may have.

[bluesea777]

11 minutes ago, Homosassa said:

 

Not so fast.

 

I remember a post from some time ago where passenger number two cancelled after final payment and passenger number three then found out she was responsible for what would have been her fare as second passenger (also third passenger and fourth passenger free in room  deal).

 

You need to talk to NCL about this, especially if passengers one and two plan to make a claim under any trip insurance they may have.

 

Not so fast, either!

 

If you call NCL they will be obliged to cancel the whole reservation and rebook the cabin for #3 & #4 who will need to pay the whole fare. That's the DOUBLE the cost that is in NCL's favour!

 

I agree with Paul Bogle. Pax #1 and #2 might still be able to claim the fare via their insurance.

 

 

[GeezerCouple]

1 hour ago, Sula Lato said:

We are traveling  with another couple under 3&4 guests free (port charges).  They may have to cancel, so can we takeover the reservation they have paid for already (past final payment)?  They would not get a refund, but could we keep the cabin? Also wood we get/have to keep their amenities? Any help is appreciated.

 

Are you just trying to "keep the cabin" and planning to repay the other couple, so you don't lose this cabin at the original rate?

 

GC

[Two Wheels Only]

On a related question(s), what would happen if guests 1&2 are "no show"?

 

What (if any) promos are involved other than 3&4 free?

[casofilia]

Be very careful, if #1 & #2 are not on the boat and you become #! & #2 then you could be up for full charges.  Caveat Emptor.

[All-ready2cruise]

What about switching 1 & 2 with 3 & 4 before 1 & 2 cancel their cruise, wouldn't that eliminate the whole question of who's 1 & 2, or is that even possible?

 

[Paul Bogle]

6 minutes ago, All-ready2cruise said:

What about switching 1 & 2 with 3 & 4 before 1 & 2 cancel their cruise, wouldn't that eliminate the whole question of who's 1 & 2, or is that even possible?

 

They are past final payment. 

[All-ready2cruise]

Yeah, really too bad isn't it... sigh.. 

[graphicguy]

We’re guessing.  Call your PCC OR TA and get a definitive answer.

[Paul Bogle]

My point is that third and fourth passengers on the booking will not be denied boarding because the first and second passengers on the booking are no-shows. 

 

If first and second passengers file an insurance claim later, could that constitute insurance fraud? 

That is a legal question neither I nor the vast majority of posters on this board have the expertise to answer. It's a fair point to raise but not directly relevant to the op's question as filing such a claim isn't mentioned.

Edited June 2, 2019 by Paul Bogle

[Até]

Perhaps they can ask about switching passenger number two with numbers three or four under the guise of giving them the promos instead of the current number two.  That way when the fist couple doesn't show there is still a passenger number two which may prevent the problems associated with the first two not showing or cancelling.

Edited June 2, 2019 by Até

[All-ready2cruise]

I would definitely call to get some accurate information... I'm just speculating. Would be nice to get an accurate answer to this question.

[Sula Lato]

They are not claiming insurance, and yes, we would pay them back if we can take over the reservation without NCL cancelling the cabin.  Our fear is that we would end up paying NCL and #1&2 losing their funds on top of it.  It seems the best move is to change order of pax so they are #3&4 and as such they lose only port fees I think.  Thank you all for your help in figuring it out.  I will contact PCC to see about changing Pax order.  Once I find out for sure, I will update this thread.

Edited June 2, 2019 by Sula Lato

[All-ready2cruise]

Good luck!

[Outerdog]

49 minutes ago, Sula Lato said:

I will contact PCC to see about changing Pax order.

 

Past final payment?

 

Not gonna happen.

[YVRBassElectric]

9 hours ago, Outerdog said:

 

Past final payment?

 

Not gonna happen.

I was able to add a passenger & make them passenger 2 after final payment on a Feb 2019 cruise 

[sulala]

You can call ncl to get an answer.

Edited July 13, 2019 by sulala
Misspelled

[sulala]

Can you pay to upgrade into two different cabins?

Edited July 13, 2019 by sulala
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[EaglesWin]

5 hours ago, sulala said:

You can call ncl to get an answer.

 

And you can call NCL twice to get two different answers.

[Ella2]

This thread is from June.  Pretty sure the question has already been answered....

[Jasonmom]

Since it was done June 1st I would like to hear what happened.

 

[fallujahkid]

3 hours ago, EaglesWin said:

 

And you can call NCL twice to get two different answers.

With MSC you can get two different answers during one phone call.  Saves time.

[FaithPlus1]

Probably doesn't help you but I was in a situation where my assigned roommate (this was booked with a group)decided not to go. I was worried I would have to pay the single supplement. I didn't. You aren't supposed to tell the cruise "My roommate canceled".