shipfriend_max Posted December 10, 2019 #1926 Share Posted December 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, MADflyer said: Explorer was originally booked at Rome with multiple bookings at Athens / they then moved Explorer to a Southampton pattern at Gibraltar and seemed to be 2nd ship at Southampton. The Amsterdam booking was made later and held about 2 months now. In the meantime they had booked Explorer at Grand Cayman indicating possible move to Galveston. This has been a true mystery. Since the Adventure TA sailing from Galveston to Copenhagen is no longer able to book, it seems Explorer will simply be the ship for Copenhagen, taking over the program that has been done by Serenade recent years, and to be done by Jewel in 2020, that's my explaination. There was no press release that a second ship is due to sail from Southampton in 2021, although RCI of course could change plans. We know this cruise line isn't unknown for last-minute decisions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONECRUISER Posted December 10, 2019 #1927 Share Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Nado44 said: FYI, 18 night April 21, 2021 Galveston to Europe TA on Adventure is now closed and RCL is not taking new bookings. Wonder what's happening. It was off the site for about 10min, but back on now. Wasnt open to book before or now on Royal site. Couple others disappeared same time are back, think they are shifting/loading for next release soon...or tomorrow Edited December 10, 2019 by ONECRUISER 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack McGowan Posted December 10, 2019 #1928 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 minute ago, shipfriend_max said: Since the Adventure TA sailing from Galveston to Copenhagen is no longer able to book, it seems Explorer will simply be the ship for Copenhagen, taking over the program that has been done by Serenade recent years, and to be done by Jewel in 2020, that's my explaination. There was no press release that a second ship is due to sail from Southampton in 2021, although RCI of course could change plans. We know this cruise line isn't unknown for last-minute decisions... Yes a second ship hasn’t been announced by RC for Southampton, however I was told by RC to “keep my eyes peeled in December” when asking before. I’m not holding my breath. Explorer/Independence seem like they are as yet unallocated so where they may be is unkown to me as haven’t short Caribbean ships been announced already. Although itineraries not released until next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeck Posted December 10, 2019 #1929 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Adventure from Galveston to Copenhagen has always had a pop up saying call to book. Still showing on Uk site Maybe Adventure is going to Southampton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack McGowan Posted December 10, 2019 #1930 Share Posted December 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, bigeck said: Adventure from Galveston to Copenhagen has always had a pop up saying call to book. Still showing on Uk site Maybe Adventure is going to Southampton Could be. Although I can see the 7 night Scandinavia and Russia cruise on Adventure aswell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipfriend_max Posted December 10, 2019 #1931 Share Posted December 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, Jack McGowan said: Yes a second ship hasn’t been announced by RC for Southampton, however I was told by RC to “keep my eyes peeled in December” when asking before. I’m not holding my breath. Explorer/Independence seem like they are as yet unallocated so where they may be is unkown to me as haven’t short Caribbean ships been announced already. Although itineraries not released until next week Okay, who told you that about the 2nd ship for Southampton? Would be surprising, but really nice to have a second ship in Southampton since in 2020 there's just one... I'd think one of the two ships you mentioned will definitely stay in the Caribbean year-round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack McGowan Posted December 10, 2019 #1932 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Just now, shipfriend_max said: Okay, who told you that about the 2nd ship for Southampton? Would be surprising, but really nice to have a second ship in Southampton since in 2020 there's just one... I'd think one of the two ships you mentioned will definitely stay in the Caribbean year-round. Yep, although there isn’t really much evidence to suggest either could go each way. I asked Royal Caribbean on Facebook Messenger and that’s when they told me to keep my eyes peeled - i wouldn’t get your hopes up too much though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeck Posted December 10, 2019 #1933 Share Posted December 10, 2019 I don't know how they can go from 1 Radiance class to 2 Voyager class if Ex goes as well as Adventure in Copenhagen. Can't remember the last time only 1 ship was in Southampton apart from 1 being in Harwich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack McGowan Posted December 10, 2019 #1934 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Just now, bigeck said: I don't know how they can go from 1 Radiance class to 2 Voyager class if Ex goes as well as Adventure in Copenhagen. Can't remember the last time only 1 ship was in Southampton apart from 1 being in Harwich 2020 independence got pulled from Southampton in favour of Coco Cay, could see a return but then again they might have decided that one larger ship is better than a freedom + voyager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADflyer Posted December 10, 2019 #1935 Share Posted December 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jack McGowan said: Port bookings are normally quite accurate in Gibraltar I think (maybe not by name, but the actual slots which have been booked). Makes me think it could be Explorer or Indy. Or even by the sound of it now could be Adventure. I would hope for Indy, but as you said unlikely. The most dependable port in the MED is actually the Riviera Ports and there have been no Explorer or Indy bookings there for the entire season which was the best indicator that there was not a second Southampton ship. Toulon does not report if they book the ships there though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeck Posted December 10, 2019 #1936 Share Posted December 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jack McGowan said: 2020 independence got pulled from Southampton in favour of Coco Cay, could see a return but then again they might have decided that one larger ship is better than a freedom + voyager I was on Indy Ta and the captain did say Indy is staying in Us, but a return isn't ruled out. For some reason, Brits love Indy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack McGowan Posted December 10, 2019 #1937 Share Posted December 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, bigeck said: I was on Indy Ta and the captain did say Indy is staying in Us, but a return isn't ruled out. For some reason, Brits love Indy Having been on Indy multiple times, I can vouch that she is loved by us brits. I’m not sure why, but no other ship seems to do things the way she does. I don’t know if it’s because (minus 2015 and 2020) she has always been based here, at least in summer, and the way that things have been added for the British audience I’m not sure, just know that I can see why people love her. I think I’m right in saying she was voted a couple of times as the UK’s favourite cruise ship? Don’t quote me on that though, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noitsnotatuba Posted December 10, 2019 #1938 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Looks like Europe phase 2 has been pushed back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinderek Posted December 10, 2019 #1939 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Grrrrrrr!!!! Everyday they delay makes my backup cruise with NCL look that much better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuCruise Posted December 11, 2019 #1940 Share Posted December 11, 2019 13 minutes ago, noitsnotatuba said: Looks like Europe phase 2 has been pushed back. What happened to short Caribbean release? Lumped with 7+ Caribbean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunny AZ Girl Posted December 11, 2019 #1941 Share Posted December 11, 2019 I just booked the Rhapsody 7 night on October 9, 2021. It will work well prior to the Celebrity Reflection TA on Oct 22. Both have Refundable deposits. Still waiting for the Odyssey release, but now it looks as if that release won't be until next week. My hold on the cabin of my choice on the Rhapsody at the Cyber Monday sale price was running out today. We really want to do a Greek Island cruise prior to the TA. Sailing out of Venice is ideal for us. The 6 days between cruises gives us a chance to get in both Venice and Rome. Both cities we have yet to explore. The peek we had at the Odyssey itinerary was intriguing, although the price seemed rather high. We also have no idea if the dates would work. So, I guess we wait another week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timf2001 Posted December 11, 2019 #1942 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, LuCruise said: What happened to short Caribbean release? Lumped with 7+ Caribbean? Probably delayed until spring. Caribbean Phase 2 will likely include Allure from Galveston and Odyssey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax129 Posted December 11, 2019 #1943 Share Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, noitsnotatuba said: Looks like Europe phase 2 has been pushed back. Noooooo. I'm so curious what;s causing the delay Although that's the week the itineraries for The Greek Isles out of Rome for 2020 were released. And the price briefly went down after the new year then up & up & up Edited December 11, 2019 by Jax129 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuCruise Posted December 11, 2019 #1944 Share Posted December 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, timf2001 said: Probably delayed until spring. Caribbean Phase 2 will likely include Allure from Galveston and Odyssey. Ugh. Ok...We booked a short Bermuda cruise but wanted to see what else was coming out. Guess they are making last minute changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R & T Posted December 11, 2019 #1945 Share Posted December 11, 2019 What about the Panama Canal for 2021? When will it be released? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax129 Posted December 11, 2019 #1946 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, cruisinderek said: Grrrrrrr!!!! Everyday they delay makes my backup cruise with NCL look that much better NCL has a great 11 night itinerary that looks good but I don't like the price, I don't need all the extras bundled into the price and everytime I look at the ship on youtube, I just don't like the layout. There's a Celebrity cruise that looks good too but again prices is so much higher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinderek Posted December 11, 2019 #1947 Share Posted December 11, 2019 I have the 10 day booked but really wanted to do Athens. Sadly the 11 day cuts too deep in to my Italy time. I was hoping that RC would have a 9 day with Athens, Santorini, and Mykonos. Annoyed but I guess I will just have to wait 1 more week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugtech Posted December 11, 2019 #1948 Share Posted December 11, 2019 44 minutes ago, Jax129 said: Noooooo. I'm so curious what;s causing the delay Although that's the week the itineraries for The Greek Isles out of Rome for 2020 were released. And the price briefly went down after the new year then up & up & up They have the Jewel stuck in Rome on 11/26/20, need to do something with her until April, 2021. Who knows how that effects everything else Europe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONECRUISER Posted December 11, 2019 #1949 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, R & T said: What about the Panama Canal for 2021? When will it be released? Hard telling, may not be any this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADflyer Posted December 11, 2019 #1950 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Brilliance appears to sail from Tampa to Boston on August 30th with stops at Grand Cayman on the 1st of September and St. Maarten on the 8th of September with most likely ABC ports along the way to the Boston arrival on September 12th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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