Snuffie Posted August 26, 2019 #1 Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) A dear friend of mine took very ill after a recent cruise on Bliss then a week later on Joy in Alaska. Anyone else know of others who were stricken with illness? Edited August 26, 2019 by Snuffie Typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisequeen4ever Posted August 26, 2019 #2 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Holland America pax have reported a lot of sickness this summer on their AK cruises, and when ships intermingle in port, it can spread all over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BirdTravels Posted August 26, 2019 #3 Share Posted August 26, 2019 We were on the Joy Aug 3-10. Nothing noted onboard (i.e., no heightened sanitation) or reports of illness on the ship. We wish your friend a speedy recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snuffie Posted August 26, 2019 Author #4 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Thank you. Hopefully any other feedback from others would be appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare graphicguy Posted August 26, 2019 #5 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Any illnesses on any cruise ships usually hit these boards pretty quickly. Haven’t heard of any AK cruise that was struck with an illness recently. Last I heard of any cruise in AK with a significant illness outbreak was over a year ago on a Holland America ship (I think). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snuffie Posted August 27, 2019 Author #6 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Posting again to see if any outbreaks of Sepsis. I didn’t report specifics in original post. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phissy Posted August 27, 2019 #7 Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Snuffie said: Posting again to see if any outbreaks of Sepsis. I didn’t report specifics in original post. Thank you. Sepsis is very serious as illness goes. I would think if this was contracted onboard, it would have been reported. Always good reminder- use good hygiene habits when traveling. Repeated washing of hands and covering coughs and sneezes with elbow. I always wash hands after serving myself from buffet /before eating. Who knows what is on the serving utensils. Best wishes to your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhoenixCruiser Posted August 27, 2019 #8 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Were they local or did they fly in? Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don't-use-real-name Posted August 27, 2019 #9 Share Posted August 27, 2019 These guests - were they in a smoke fire zone - Alaska interior/land tour package - perhaps a respiratory problem. Need more specifics to determine the gauge of this - airborne - food - health - virus - general hygiene ? ? ? ? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milolii Posted August 27, 2019 #10 Share Posted August 27, 2019 What was the source of the sepsis? Lungs? An Urinary Track Infection, or a Gastrointestinal ailment? Hope your friend is doing better. I agree with other posters, that significant illness onboard are reported here very quickly. And these are 2 very large ships. It would be prudent of your fiend’s physician to contact the cruise line or the ship’s physician as part of the diagnostic process. The physician would also need to report any significant findings. Any information there? We were in Alaska last week on the Royal Princess, following/ leading both ships throughout the week. We did not notice any air pollution from the fires, Until we docked in Whittier. Definitely the fires are an issue right now, but located inland. Wishing your friend a speedy recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packer99 Posted August 27, 2019 #11 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Travelling alone can cause various degrees of illness. Airports, tourist areas, any sort of mode of travel. I didn't think sepsis was contagious either. Its usually from some sort of infection. So did they start to feel sick and then it turned into sepsis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare All-ready2cruise Posted August 27, 2019 #12 Share Posted August 27, 2019 12 minutes ago, packer99 said: Travelling alone can cause various degrees of illness. Airports, tourist areas, any sort of mode of travel. I didn't think sepsis was contagious either. Its usually from some sort of infection. So did they start to feel sick and then it turned into sepsis. I travel alone all the time now, what does that have to do with price of tea in china, absolutely nothing, JMO and personal experience. Sepsis, IIRC, is caused by a bacteria which can subsist in the body for a while prior to becoming a serious problem. My guess would be that this person may have been ill prior to the cruise. It is, however, just a guess. OP, I hope your friend receives the care and attention they need and makes a full recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarlChilders Posted August 27, 2019 #13 Share Posted August 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, All-ready2cruise said: I travel alone all the time now, what does that have to do with price of tea in china, absolutely nothing, JMO and personal experience. Sepsis, IIRC, is caused by a bacteria which can subsist in the body for a while prior to becoming a serious problem. My guess would be that this person may have been ill prior to the cruise. It is, however, just a guess. OP, I hope your friend receives the care and attention they need and makes a full recovery. I think they meant travelling, alone, as in the act of travelling in and of itself can lead to sickness. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare graphicguy Posted August 27, 2019 #14 Share Posted August 27, 2019 OP.....hope your friend has a quick recovery. No reports we’ve heard. Again, any sort of illness outbreaks on a ship are usually quickly recorded here at CC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packer99 Posted August 27, 2019 #15 Share Posted August 27, 2019 2 hours ago, KarlChilders said: I think they meant travelling, alone, as in the act of travelling in and of itself can lead to sickness. Yes, as in just travelling, being in public places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snuffie Posted August 27, 2019 Author #16 Share Posted August 27, 2019 With heavy heart my friend passed away 7 days after his return from Alaska on NCL Joy. He he was in good health and only 65. Not even on any prescriptions! He contracted Sepsis/Strep A/ NF of stomach. He never got off the ship as he was just on the Bliss prior. Heartbroken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetnspicy Posted August 27, 2019 #17 Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Snuffie said: With heavy heart my friend passed away 7 days after his return from Alaska on NCL Joy. He he was in good health and only 65. Not even on any prescriptions! He contracted Sepsis/Strep A/ NF of stomach. He never got off the ship as he was just on the Bliss prior. Heartbroken. I am so sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted August 27, 2019 #18 Share Posted August 27, 2019 14 hours ago, Snuffie said: Posting again to see if any outbreaks of Sepsis. I didn’t report specifics in original post. Thank you. There are no "outbreaks" of sepsis. Sepsis is a body's response to an infection, and it can be almost any infection. Sepsis is not transmitted nor contagious. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elwood_98034 Posted August 27, 2019 #19 Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Snuffie said: With heavy heart my friend passed away 7 days after his return from Alaska on NCL Joy. He he was in good health and only 65. Not even on any prescriptions! He contracted Sepsis/Strep A/ NF of stomach. He never got off the ship as he was just on the Bliss prior. Heartbroken. I am very, very, sorry for your loss. Be comforted by the fact that being taken by sepsis is often quite painless, and can be a very calm experience towards the end. Would you mind being a little bit more specific about your friends illness. By 'NF' do you mean Necrotizing Fasciitis? Did he have a hernia or recent abdominal surgery? By 'Stomach' do you mean literally his stomach, or his abdomen/abdominal wall? Was he a Diabetic or heavy smoker? As an aside, take great care to not get cuts or blisters on your feet, keep all wounds covered, and don't walk around inside your cabin, in tiled bathrooms, or public areas in bare feet. Ever. If you do have any open wounds or grazes, avoid hot tubs, and the pools. At the first sign of any boil, fever or wound redness/discoloration go immediately to the sickbay. Consider taking bleach wipes to wipe down your bathroom and countertops when you board. Use Purell and wash your hands. A lot. If anyone coughs or sneezes around you, immediately go in the opposite direction, or breathe into your shirt until you can get away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elwood_98034 Posted August 27, 2019 #20 Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 hour ago, chengkp75 said: There are no "outbreaks" of sepsis. Sepsis is a body's response to an infection, and it can be almost any infection. Sepsis is not transmitted nor contagious. The various bacteria that cause sepsis can be highly contagious, and can remain viable on exposed dry surfaces for many days. As you know you don't 'catch' sepsis, you pick up and get infected by the bacteria that causes it, and have a 1 in 3 chance of dying because of it. Any sort of break in the skin's surface is enough to let the bacteria in. Bathrooms are my secret terror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pollyanna Dreamgirl Posted August 27, 2019 #21 Share Posted August 27, 2019 We arrived home on Sunday (August 24th) from an Alaskan cruise on the JOY, and did not hear of any medical issues during that time. So sorry for the loss of your friend.😔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snuffie Posted August 27, 2019 Author #22 Share Posted August 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, elwood_98034 said: I am very, very, sorry for your loss. Be comforted by the fact that being taken by sepsis is often quite painless, and can be a very calm experience towards the end. Would you mind being a little bit more specific about your friends illness. By 'NF' do you mean Necrotizing Fasciitis? Did he have a hernia or recent abdominal surgery? By 'Stomach' do you mean literally his stomach, or his abdomen/abdominal wall? Was he a Diabetic or heavy smoker? As an aside, take great care to not get cuts or blisters on your feet, keep all wounds covered, and don't walk around inside your cabin, in tiled bathrooms, or public areas in bare feet. Ever. If you do have any open wounds or grazes, avoid hot tubs, and the pools. At the first sign of any boil, fever or wound redness/discoloration go immediately to the sickbay. Consider taking bleach wipes to wipe down your bathroom and countertops when you board. Use Purell and wash your hands. A lot. If anyone coughs or sneezes around you, immediately go in the opposite direction, or breathe into your shirt until you can get away. Thank you for your condolences. Yes Necrotizing Fasciitis of the Stomach. He did not have a hernia or abdominal surgery. He did not smoke or was a Diabetic. He only ate once in the buffet area, rest of the time in specialty restaurants. He was in great health for a 65 year old man. Good advice to everyone on walking bare foot in cabins or public areas as well as using bleach wipes, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotownVoice Posted August 27, 2019 #23 Share Posted August 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, Snuffie said: Thank you for your condolences. Yes Necrotizing Fasciitis of the Stomach. He did not have a hernia or abdominal surgery. He did not smoke or was a Diabetic. He only ate once in the buffet area, rest of the time in specialty restaurants. He was in great health for a 65 year old man. Good advice to everyone on walking bare foot in cabins or public areas as well as using bleach wipes, etc. Since the OP seems to be missing what was already said about sepsis, let me repeat: Sepsis is not a contagious disease. If you're going to get it, you get it because you're sick. Not because you were on a ship, or a plane, or a scooter or safely at home. It is a response in the body to infection that isn't treated properly. So this person was likely already sick when he got on to the ship. But for the rest of you reading this, the reason to wash your hands and avoid coughing on a ship is because of NOROVIRUS. Not because of Sepsis. Sepsis is not a new thing you need to worry about. Unless of course you have an internal infection. In which case you're probably already doomed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elwood_98034 Posted August 27, 2019 #24 Share Posted August 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, MotownVoice said: Since the OP seems to be missing what was already said about sepsis, let me repeat: Sepsis is not a contagious disease. If you're going to get it, you get it because you're sick. Not because you were on a ship, or a plane, or a scooter or safely at home. It is a response in the body to infection that isn't treated properly. So this person was likely already sick when he got on to the ship. But for the rest of you reading this, the reason to wash your hands and avoid coughing on a ship is because of NOROVIRUS. Not because of Sepsis. Sepsis is not a new thing you need to worry about. Unless of course you have an internal infection. In which case you're probably already doomed. You might want to do some more research on this topic. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has a good website. It is very informative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarlChilders Posted August 27, 2019 #25 Share Posted August 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, elwood_98034 said: You might want to do some more research on this topic. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has a good website. It is very informative. from the CDC website "Sepsis happens when an infection you already have —in your skin, lungs, urinary tract, or somewhere else—triggers a chain reaction throughout your body." Bolded for emphasis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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