lordstudd Posted November 21, 2019 #1 Share Posted November 21, 2019 http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/atlanta-couple-held-hostage-in-mexican-hospital-over-bill-dispute/ar-BBX3MWr They need help getting out of Mexico... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbethel11 Posted November 21, 2019 #2 Share Posted November 21, 2019 12 minutes ago, lordstudd said: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/atlanta-couple-held-hostage-in-mexican-hospital-over-bill-dispute/ar-BBX3MWr They need help getting out of Mexico... Woah! That's really scary! Do you think that the outcomes would have been different if they went to a hospital in Cozumel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elaine5715 Posted November 21, 2019 #3 Share Posted November 21, 2019 That is that way it works. The hospital probably has their passports. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coevan Posted November 21, 2019 #4 Share Posted November 21, 2019 travel insurance? don't leave home without it, because stuff happens 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare sparks1093 Posted November 21, 2019 #5 Share Posted November 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, coevan said: travel insurance? don't leave home without it, because stuff happens Which may or may not help, many travel insurance policies are secondary and are by reimbursement only, so the traveler has to pony up the money first and then wait to get the money back. Some policies will guarantee payment, but it has to clearly state that in the terms and conditions. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coevan Posted November 21, 2019 #6 Share Posted November 21, 2019 eventually it will, glad I have an available CC credit limit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19cruiser59 Posted November 21, 2019 #7 Share Posted November 21, 2019 The U.S. Embassy needs to step in and mediate to get the couple back to the U.S. Now if they have NO health insurance whatsoever, thats going to be a problem. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VentureMan_2000 Posted November 21, 2019 #8 Share Posted November 21, 2019 98% of the reason I purchase travel insurance is for medical and emergency evacuation. The other 2% is trip cancellation. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zorky12 Posted November 21, 2019 #9 Share Posted November 21, 2019 The US Embassy should be able to get them home, even if it results in paying the bill and passing it on to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisingguy007 Posted November 21, 2019 #10 Share Posted November 21, 2019 29 minutes ago, sparks1093 said: Which may or may not help, many travel insurance policies are secondary and are by reimbursement only, so the traveler has to pony up the money first and then wait to get the money back. Some policies will guarantee payment, but it has to clearly state that in the terms and conditions. We got our travel insurance through Travel Insured International and they have a clause that states they will in fact make arrangements to ensure treatment if financially necessary so as not to leave you stuck. It was also one of the cheapest options so I'm sure many have this written into the details. Sounds like these folks had no insurance at all. Also our regular insurance has coverage for this as well "if medically necessary". Sounds like poor planning in this case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pe4all Posted November 21, 2019 #11 Share Posted November 21, 2019 30 minutes ago, Elaine5715 said: That is that way it works. The hospital probably has their passports. The hospital we were off-loaded to in Belize when dd had an appendix attack took our passports and gave them back when dd was medically cleared to leave and our bill had been fully paid by my credit card. We always clear two cards for international travel "just in case." We also never travel without a trip insurance policy. When I contacted travelguard from the hospital they offered help with paying if I needed it. The article made it sound like the man had NO insurance coverage whatsoever. Very scary to be stranded in a hospital like that- and very expensive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisingguy007 Posted November 21, 2019 #12 Share Posted November 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, zorky12 said: The US Embassy should be able to get them home, even if it results in paying the bill and passing it on to them. I suspect this is the case as well. Uncle Sam will step in but the medical costs are only the beginning. I'm sure repatriation costs will be tacked on as well. Uncle Sam always gets his too. He don't ask either, he just snatches it out of your bank account or directly from your paycheck. I've tangled with Uncle Sam on a few occasions and he is ferocious and kicked my butt all up and down the street...lol. This will be a very costly lesson for this family. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Host Carolyn Posted November 21, 2019 #13 Share Posted November 21, 2019 This thread was moved here in part because it really didn't fit anywhere else but also to illustrate how very important travel insurance is. This isn't an opportunity to second guess the "victim'" and posts denigrating him will be removed Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare sparks1093 Posted November 21, 2019 #14 Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 hour ago, coevan said: eventually it will, glad I have an available CC credit limit Not everyone does (and presumably if the couple did there would be no need for the article). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elaine5715 Posted November 21, 2019 #15 Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 hour ago, zorky12 said: The US Embassy should be able to get them home, even if it results in paying the bill and passing it on to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elaine5715 Posted November 21, 2019 #16 Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 hour ago, zorky12 said: The US Embassy should be able to get them home, even if it results in paying the bill and passing it on to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coevan Posted November 21, 2019 #17 Share Posted November 21, 2019 4 hours ago, cruisingguy007 said: Uncle Sam always gets his too. He don't ask either, he just snatches it out of your bank account or directly from your paycheck. Oh please, nice conspiracy theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisingguy007 Posted November 22, 2019 #18 Share Posted November 22, 2019 2 hours ago, coevan said: Oh please, nice conspiracy theory. I guess you've never owed the government money, lucky you. Not a conspiracy in the least. Trust me, been there, done that. I've even had them use this same tactic at the state and local level for a 10 year old ticket that I had all but forgotten about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pms4104 Posted November 22, 2019 #19 Share Posted November 22, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Elaine5715 said: That is that way it works. The hospital probably has their passports. Or WHTI docs ... DL and birth certif ... so, in that case, even if able to pay the hospital charges, they'd still need US Embassy assist Edited November 22, 2019 by pms4104 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packedandready Posted November 22, 2019 #20 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Something I didn't understand .. In the article it states that the man was in a diabetic coma and that the ship suggested that they seek help at the hospital in Progreso. Seems to me that if the man was actually in a diabetic coma, there would be NO suggesting...he would be sent off in an ambulance. Am I missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pe4all Posted November 22, 2019 #21 Share Posted November 22, 2019 9 hours ago, packedandready said: Something I didn't understand .. In the article it states that the man was in a diabetic coma and that the ship suggested that they seek help at the hospital in Progreso. Seems to me that if the man was actually in a diabetic coma, there would be NO suggesting...he would be sent off in an ambulance. Am I missing something? That did not make sense to me, either. The ship's infirmary is well-prepared to handle a lot of medical issues, including (I am sure) stocking insulin. However, to keep someone on the ship with several medical issues going on at once and not sent off to a hospital is probably the last thing the ship's medical staff wanted to do. Hoping there is an update on this story shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare sparks1093 Posted November 22, 2019 #22 Share Posted November 22, 2019 13 hours ago, coevan said: Oh please, nice conspiracy theory. Nope, the government is going to get theirs. One of my sons owes the Army some of his enlistment bonus money back (he got out before his enlistment was over) and he just received a letter from the IRS notifying him that his tax refund will be seized to pay that debt (and if that's not enough to cover it then they will seize subsequent year's also). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmettostatecruiser Posted November 22, 2019 #23 Share Posted November 22, 2019 13 hours ago, coevan said: Oh please, nice conspiracy theory. You have no idea what you're talking about - the government does garnish in certain situations, no 'conspiracy ' about it, much as you would like there to be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaxsMama Posted November 22, 2019 #24 Share Posted November 22, 2019 My husband had to get stitches once in Playa del Carmen. Before hospital would take him they put a $2000 hold on our credit card. Ended up being $1600 for 16 stitches. Then when we returned we filed our travel insurance claim. So even with travel insurance be prepared to pay out of pocket and reimbursed later. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serene56 Posted November 22, 2019 #25 Share Posted November 22, 2019 EVen with travel insurance some countries do not accept that and you pay OOP and get reimbursed so make sure of everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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