Rare BermudaBound2014 Posted March 9, 2020 #1 Share Posted March 9, 2020 I wonder what the NCL ship sailing there will do... Hawaii Lt. Gov. Josh Green called Monday for a 60-day pause in cruise ship tours to Hawaii while the coronavirus epidemic spreads throughout the United States. https://www.hawaiipublicradio.org/post/hawaii-updates-what-were-learning-about-coronavirus-today#stream/0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeppgirl Posted March 10, 2020 #2 Share Posted March 10, 2020 oh wow!!! This affects my in laws, who had a Hawaiian cruise planned early april. Wonder how this will work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckeyeMan Posted March 10, 2020 #3 Share Posted March 10, 2020 We are crusing there in July. Although not in the 2 month window at this time, this is still interesting to say the least. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cachouonacruise Posted March 10, 2020 #4 Share Posted March 10, 2020 When will this be effective? We technically should be on board NCL Pride of America, March 14-21, 2020? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oteixeira Posted March 10, 2020 #5 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Well, the POA doesn't cruise TO the islands, people fly in and it just cruises around them.....so, does that count? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaman11 Posted March 10, 2020 #6 Share Posted March 10, 2020 he caled for it . but likely will not happen. the cruislines will lose too much 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BermudaBound2014 Posted March 10, 2020 Author #7 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Just now, seaman11 said: he caled for it . but likely will not happen. the cruislines will lose too much Does the governor need permission? I know CLIA is furious with the state Dept and cdc for their warning not to cruise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLH Arizona Posted March 10, 2020 #8 Share Posted March 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, oteixeira said: Well, the POA doesn't cruise TO the islands, people fly in and it just cruises around them.....so, does that count? Couldn't someone catch the virus on the plane to Hawaii and then spread it to the ship and land? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oteixeira Posted March 10, 2020 #9 Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, NLH Arizona said: Couldn't someone catch the virus on the plane to Hawaii and then spread it to the ship and land? Sure, but they survive on tourism. They have planes full of people coming there non stop, that is why stopping the ships seems a little odd to me. Are they going to stop all the flights from Asia too (since it has the highest outbreaks)? Edited March 10, 2020 by oteixeira 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare All-ready2cruise Posted March 10, 2020 #10 Share Posted March 10, 2020 My biggest concern is not the cruise itself... it's getting there; especially flights from cities that have numerous cases already allocated to their area. Any Island gov't should be concerned... Hawaii included. JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlamorousGirl Posted March 10, 2020 #11 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Seems ridiculous to ban cruises but not flights. I’m driving to my cruise out of NY instead of flying because a plane, where people are packed in like sardines, is the last place I’d want to be right now. At least on a ship it is possible to find quieter areas and avoid the crowds. If flights aren’t banned neither should cruises be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLH Arizona Posted March 10, 2020 #12 Share Posted March 10, 2020 1 minute ago, oteixeira said: Sure, but they survive on tourism. They have planes full of people coming there no stop, that is why stopping the ships seems a little odd to me. Are they going to stop all the flights from Asia too (since it has the highest outbreaks)? I think it is odd as well, as the virus can be brought to the islands as easily by plane or ship. Seems like a knee jerk reaction. Especially since a lot of their tourists come from Japan who has 449 cases as of yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BermudaBound2014 Posted March 10, 2020 Author #13 Share Posted March 10, 2020 I have asked mods to change the title of this thread to “hawaii governor calls for ban” as that is more accurate. Sorry for any confusion. still interesting and something to follow if you have a cruise booked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckeyeMan Posted March 10, 2020 #14 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Actually the story says Lt. Governor but still... If the second highest ranking guy in the state calls for a ban... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BermudaBound2014 Posted March 10, 2020 Author #15 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Here is another article explaining that the governor can’t ban ships- sorry about the title (I’ve asked mods to change It so it is more accurate.) "We don't have the authority to ban cruise ships. The Coast Guard is pretty strict about what they are looking at. As you know, they did ban any cruise ships that sailed in China and I'm certain that the CDC and the Coast Guard are talking all the time about increased restrictions on both cruise ships and air travel," Ige said. https://www.hawaiipublicradio.org/post/what-hawaii-can-and-cant-do-it-copes-first-coronavirus-case#stream/0 I still find it Interesting that the conversation is on the table and if i had a hawaii cruise planned in the near future I would want to keep an eye on this. hope this helps someone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don't-use-real-name Posted March 10, 2020 #16 Share Posted March 10, 2020 That BAN perhaps refers to Mainland cruise ships on a cruise to and from the islands and "MAY" include the NCL JEWEL transit from Australia New Zealand and Tahiti to Alaska. Holland America and Princess do have 14+ day cruises from the mainland to Hawaii with the required PVSA stop at Ensenada MX - but even that is stretching the limits of the virus which is reportedly inactive after 14 days quarantined - unless there is some self sustaining factor causing it linger longer. The main problem would be the airline passengers bringing the virus along on a 5-7 hour flight - now that is something not to be ignored ! About the Lieutenant Governor making the BAN call - frequently in state government the Governor will assign tasks of Travel Transportation related and other issues to the Lt. Governor. Also while the Governor may be out of state for state business the Lt. Governor is in charge of immediate business in the state. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julig22 Posted March 10, 2020 #17 Share Posted March 10, 2020 1 hour ago, don't-use-real-name said: That BAN perhaps refers to Mainland cruise ships on a cruise to and from the islands and "MAY" include the NCL JEWEL transit from Australia New Zealand and Tahiti to Alaska. Holland America and Princess do have 14+ day cruises from the mainland to Hawaii with the required PVSA stop at Ensenada MX - but even that is stretching the limits of the virus which is reportedly inactive after 14 days quarantined - unless there is some self sustaining factor causing it linger longer. The main problem would be the airline passengers bringing the virus along on a 5-7 hour flight - now that is something not to be ignored ! About the Lieutenant Governor making the BAN call - frequently in state government the Governor will assign tasks of Travel Transportation related and other issues to the Lt. Governor. Also while the Governor may be out of state for state business the Lt. Governor is in charge of immediate business in the state. The Jewel is currently on a 21-day cruise from Sydney - so by the time it gets to Papeete, the incubation period would be long past. So when the Jewel goes to Hawaii on the next cruise, it will be on a "clean" ship, assuming no new crew comes on board in Papeete. USCG has the authority to close ports, not the Governor or Lt Governor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebr.cruiser Posted March 10, 2020 #18 Share Posted March 10, 2020 1 minute ago, julig22 said: The Jewel is currently on a 21-day cruise from Sydney - so by the time it gets to Papeete, the incubation period would be long past. So when the Jewel goes to Hawaii on the next cruise, it will be on a "clean" ship, assuming no new crew comes on board in Papeete. USCG has the authority to close ports, not the Governor or Lt Governor. But, a bunch of new people are coming on board in Tahiti; we are supposed to be among them, although we are probably going to cancel--not so much from fear of catching the virus as from fear of not being allowed into various ports/or quarantined somewhere at sea. All those extra people flying from all over, though mostly I suspect through LAX.--very possible for someone to have been exposed. 1 minute ago, julig22 said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julig22 Posted March 10, 2020 #19 Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Nebr.cruiser said: But, a bunch of new people are coming on board in Tahiti; we are supposed to be among them, although we are probably going to cancel--not so much from fear of catching the virus as from fear of not being allowed into various ports/or quarantined somewhere at sea. All those extra people flying from all over, though mostly I suspect through LAX.--very possible for someone to have been exposed. You are correct that we (I'm on that next cruise) could bring it onboard. But so can anyone flying into Hawaii - so banning cruise ships and not flights is inconsistent at the very least. So far, the cases in Hawaii have reportedly come from residents who have traveled and returned home, not from visitors. So I still plan to go and if I end up on a 2 week cruise to nowhere, there are worse things that can happen. Edited March 10, 2020 by julig22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebr.cruiser Posted March 10, 2020 #20 Share Posted March 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, julig22 said: You are correct that we (I'm on that next cruise) could bring it onboard. But so can anyone flying into Hawaii - so banning cruise ships and not flights is inconsistent at the very least. So far, the cases in Hawaii have reportedly come from residents who have traveled and returned home, not from visitors. So I still plan to go and if I end up on a 2 week cruise to nowhere, there are worse things that can happen. I totally agree--and can't help thinking that air travel should be even more likely to spread the virus than cruising. Knowing how dependent Hawaii is on tourists (most of whom fly in) and on shipping for basic necessities for their population, halting air and ship traffic would be a difficult decision. Probably unlikely. Much simpler (for Hawaii), although not very effective, IMO, for cruise ships to be banned. We hate to miss this cruise; at this time it *looks* like the Tahitian ports and other nearby islands will be accepting cruises; not so sure about Hawaii, 10 days later, and worst of all would to be quarantined for days or weeks like some other ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chobo2 Posted March 10, 2020 #21 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Dang, my cruise is on the Jewel in 51 days, seems like the odds of me going on this are decreasing every day. I really want to go, its for my honeymoon and I really don't want a FCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cartman3132 Posted March 10, 2020 #22 Share Posted March 10, 2020 11 hours ago, GlamorousGirl said: Seems ridiculous to ban cruises but not flights. I’m driving to my cruise out of NY instead of flying because a plane, where people are packed in like sardines, is the last place I’d want to be right now. At least on a ship it is possible to find quieter areas and avoid the crowds. If flights aren’t banned neither should cruises be. Thank you! I've been saying this to everyone who asks me if I'm cancelling any of my trips. I have the same odds to get it down the street at the grocery store as I do on vacation because mass transit is still happening. In the 10 day incubation someone could jump on a plane from Seattle with 2 layovers to Boston and cross 20,000 people. But no, the media thinks that cruising is the worst thing ever but being packed A to D in the NYC subway after 5% of them just got off a plane from Orlando is perfectly acceptable. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farts Posted March 10, 2020 #23 Share Posted March 10, 2020 looks like the stock prices for nclh will take another hit today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ColeThornton Posted March 10, 2020 #24 Share Posted March 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, Farts said: looks like the stock prices for nclh will take another hit today. Actually, NCLH at this moment is up $1.79/share in pre-market. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farts Posted March 10, 2020 #25 Share Posted March 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, ColeThornton said: Actually, NCLH at this moment is up $1.79/share in pre-market. that's great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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