mrbluesea Posted April 6, 2020 #1 Share Posted April 6, 2020 As countries respond to the COVID-19 pandemic, including travel and border restrictions, the FCO advises British nationals against all but essential international travel. This latest advice I understand came out at the weekend. Pretty much means that no overseas travel can be booked until its lifted. Not that I intended booking anything just now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobstheboy Posted April 6, 2020 #2 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Very ambiguous, anyone having cruises/holidays booked in 12,18 or 24 months times can now cancel, without penalty ? I very much doubt it. The FCO may have to put a date on it, subject to change. This is going to cause much confusion for all parties. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glittergal1 Posted April 6, 2020 #3 Share Posted April 6, 2020 If this is the case then Travel companies should not be selling any holidays abroad at all , and I cant see them stopping selling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amajaa Posted April 6, 2020 #4 Share Posted April 6, 2020 That is the advice from a few weeks ago. Some of the Facebook pages are saying that the latest advice says to cancel all travel plans indefinitely, which it doesn’t say. Unfortunately some local radio station announced this and others have been re reporting it. I can’t see why the foreign office would tell you to cancel plans for next year or the year after, that would make all the travel firms goes completely bust. https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbluesea Posted April 6, 2020 Author #5 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Simon Calder on LBC today reported that the foreign office advice had been updated over the weekend (on Saturday) to advise against all international travel. He also stated that it was extremely unhelpful not to put an end date and that it would lead to confusion in the travel industry. I think the ramifications of this advice are still to unravel. I don't read this as being advice to cancel booked travel for next year or after, I do however think it would be unwise to book new travel plans for any future dates. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake 26 Posted April 6, 2020 #6 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Indefinitely means an unspecified time, which applies to the FCO advice statement because they have removed the previous 30 day period. Some of the media have decided to use the word to give the dramatic impression that the advice is never ending, although indefinitely is not used in the advice statement. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pentlands Posted April 6, 2020 #7 Share Posted April 6, 2020 5 hours ago, jake 26 said: Indefinitely means an unspecified time, which applies to the FCO advice statement because they have removed the previous 30 day period. Some of the media have decided to use the word to give the dramatic impression that the advice is never ending, although indefinitely is not used in the advice statement. Yes it is Foreign Office @foreignoffice Travel update : The Foreign Office indefinitely advises against all non-essential global travel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake 26 Posted April 7, 2020 #8 Share Posted April 7, 2020 10 hours ago, Pentlands said: Yes it is Foreign Office @foreignoffice Travel update : The Foreign Office indefinitely advises against all non-essential global travel Thanks, I missed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrierjohn Posted April 7, 2020 #9 Share Posted April 7, 2020 10 hours ago, Pentlands said: Yes it is Foreign Office @foreignoffice Travel update : The Foreign Office indefinitely advises against all non-essential global travel Yes but it doesn't say how long indefinitely is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denarius Posted April 7, 2020 #10 Share Posted April 7, 2020 1 hour ago, terrierjohn said: Yes but it doesn't say how long indefinitely is! Indefinitely means until we tell you otherwise. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les_ldh Posted April 7, 2020 #11 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Just now, Denarius said: Indefinitely means until we tell you otherwise. Unless you work for P&O, in which case it means 4 weeks 😂 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeanlyon Posted April 7, 2020 #12 Share Posted April 7, 2020 It doesn't say indefinitely? It has said the same for weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zap99 Posted April 7, 2020 #13 Share Posted April 7, 2020 53 minutes ago, jeanlyon said: It doesn't say indefinitely? It has said the same for weeks. Previously it stated " Initially for a period of 30 days". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pentlands Posted April 7, 2020 #14 Share Posted April 7, 2020 11 hours ago, Denarius said: Indefinitely means until we tell you otherwise. Whatever it means it means its a long time without an end which can be seen now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Windsurfboy Posted April 8, 2020 #15 Share Posted April 8, 2020 The foreign office advice says for an indefinite period, which means an unspecified period, or until we tell you. The papers have used the more sensational word indefinitely, which can be interpreted as forever. Sloppy sensational journalism 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zap99 Posted April 8, 2020 #16 Share Posted April 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Windsurfboy said: The foreign office advice says for an indefinite period, which means an unspecified period, or until we tell you. The papers have used the more sensational word indefinitely, which can be interpreted as forever. Sloppy sensational journalism Indefinitely is tucked away in the advice. See pentands post. It definitely does say indefinitely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Anarchy Posted April 8, 2020 #17 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 hour ago, zap99 said: Indefinitely is tucked away in the advice. See pentands post. It definitely does say indefinitely. Is definitely indefinitely the same as forever? 🥴 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zap99 Posted April 8, 2020 #18 Share Posted April 8, 2020 16 minutes ago, Son of Anarchy said: Is definitely indefinitely the same as forever? 🥴 Not quite, forever is defined, indefinitely could be even longer than forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeanlyon Posted April 8, 2020 #19 Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) Not that I care, but just out of pure interest, I have checked the main page of the FCO Advice and also on a couple of countries and I do not see the word indefinite anywhere? I see this COVID-19 Exceptional Travel Advisory Notice As countries respond to the COVID-19 pandemic, including travel and border restrictions, the FCO advises British nationals against all but essential international travel. Any country or area may restrict travel without notice. If you live in the UK and are currently travelling abroad, you are strongly advised to return now, where and while there are still commercial routes available. Many airlines are suspending flights and many airports are closing, preventing flights from leaving. Edited April 8, 2020 by jeanlyon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Windsurfboy Posted April 8, 2020 #20 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Do not travel abroad unless it’s essential The FCO advised British people against all non-essential travel worldwide. This applies for an indefinite period due to unprecedented international border closures and other restrictions. All countries may restrict travel without notice. This comes from Government latest update under travel advisory. Clearly says indefinite period Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zap99 Posted April 8, 2020 #21 Share Posted April 8, 2020 37 minutes ago, jeanlyon said: Not that I care, but just out of pure interest, I have checked the main page of the FCO Advice and also on a couple of countries and I do not see the word indefinite anywhere? I see this COVID-19 Exceptional Travel Advisory Notice As countries respond to the COVID-19 pandemic, including travel and border restrictions, the FCO advises British nationals against all but essential international travel. Any country or area may restrict travel without notice. If you live in the UK and are currently travelling abroad, you are strongly advised to return now, where and while there are still commercial routes available. Many airlines are suspending flights and many airports are closing, preventing flights from leaving. As you don't care I won't refer you to the gov.uk guidance tab on covid 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianI Posted April 8, 2020 #22 Share Posted April 8, 2020 It has to be “indefinite” as no one knows when the end date is. Once we know the end date, then the travel advice will be revised. Brian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zap99 Posted April 8, 2020 #23 Share Posted April 8, 2020 27 minutes ago, BrianI said: It has to be “indefinite” as no one knows when the end date is. Once we know the end date, then the travel advice will be revised. Brian You are quite right, but what has frustrated people is that if the had they said "untill at least 31 May" there would have been a date that could be referred to for cancellations/claims. Indefinite is, well indefinite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRINCESSTHE BEST Posted April 8, 2020 #24 Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) As the FCO advises against all international travel for an indefinite period, why does the P&O cancellation full refund policy only apply until 15 May? No one paying the full balance now will be covered by travel insurance. Edited April 8, 2020 by PRINCESSTHE BEST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Anarchy Posted April 8, 2020 #25 Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, PRINCESSTHE BEST said: As the FCO advises against all international travel for an indefinite period, why does the P&O cancellation full refund policy only apply until 15 May? No one paying the full balance now will be covered by travel insurance. Up until which date do you think PandO's cancellation full refund policy should apply then? Edited April 8, 2020 by Son of Anarchy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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