beachbum53 Posted April 8, 2020 #26 Share Posted April 8, 2020 50 minutes ago, rukkian said: That might be tough, as there are people that cant get vaccinations (allergies, or some other condition), and then you have the religious exemptions. I agree it would be prudent, however. I would imagine that the CDC will take all of that into consideration, and that there will be some sort of alternate anti-virus medicine for those that can't (or won't) get a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiredogCruiser Posted April 8, 2020 #27 Share Posted April 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, beachbum53 said: I would imagine that the CDC will take all of that into consideration, and that there will be some sort of alternate anti-virus medicine for those that can't (or won't) get a shot. Remembering the mandatory polio vaccinations that were required years ago. Worked to stop polio. Maybe same thing here. Makes me wonder how many seasonal flu fatalities are those who chose not to get an annual flu shot. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmukid87 Posted April 8, 2020 #28 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Besides for potentially increased screening on the front end, I don't see much changing in terms of passenger experience. I don't want to sound obtuse but it all starts with one thing....muster. Getting every passenger on the ship into compact designated spaces to kick the sailing off negates any change they could dream of from that point forward. If that doesn't change, no other chance matters. Once this virus is eradicated or at least under control, I hope that fear subsides and people can use a cruise as it is intended, as a vacation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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geckoaz Posted April 8, 2020 Author #30 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Scoll down to ship.cleaning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LaRue1975 Posted April 8, 2020 #31 Share Posted April 8, 2020 They could be required or choose to sail at no more than 70% or 80% of capacity, less if they could do it financially. They did something similar for the restaurants here in California before they shut them down. I presume they will do the same thing as they let them reopen when the time comes. The cruise lines could use this in their marketing strategy and possibly charge more per cabin sold as they come back into service. It seems to me overcrowding is one of the biggest complaints of recent cruisers and the cruise lovers who will be the ones that return first might be willing to forego a bargain basement fire sale price to sail on an uncrowded ship. The ships will undoubtedly not be sailing at capacity in the first months so why not turn it into a perk and market it that way? I hope they do it, I am already rebooked for March 2021 and would love it if it was not your typical Spring Break packed to the gills ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly333 Posted April 8, 2020 #32 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Everything sounds like prices have to go up to cover additional costs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elbozi Posted April 8, 2020 #33 Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, firefly333 said: Everything sounds like prices have to go up to cover additional costs Hah! Lots of inflation coming with all the Quantitative Easing, you don't just inject trillions of dollars with no limits, without the consequences coming due. I bet a 2023 Cruise will cost 50% more than a 2019 cruise. It's going to take awhile for people to get back to work, and have a comfortable pay check again. But all that horrid outlook. I'm super pumped to go on a cruise again, I will be way more appreciative to be on the cruise! Edited April 8, 2020 by Elbozi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly333 Posted April 8, 2020 #34 Share Posted April 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Elbozi said: Hah! Lots of inflation coming with all the Quantitative Easing, you don't just inject trillions of dollars with no limits, without the consequences coming due. I bet a 2023 Cruise will cost 50% more than a 2019 cruise. It's going to take awhile for people to get back to work, and have a comfortable pay check again. But all that horrid outlook. I'm super pumped to go on a cruise again, I will be way more appreciative to be on the cruise! If I lived in ny and could get almost 5k a month without working, I wouldnt work. Not me. I heard governor cuomo say he was adding 600 a week and the fed promised to cover it, to the 600 they will get. Rcl cruise prices are already rising with people having those 125% fcc they have to spend. Normally I'd wait until last minute to book but I got more than one to spend. Drink packages they say are up about 25% on rcl once you book. It has to cost more to spend more on cleaning and hand washing stations carnival says above they will have. Carnival getting hit with bad press but some will do carnival just because rcl prices seem up so much. For carnivals lower price. Just wait until cruising resumes. Let's see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooManyWakeUpsTilWeSail Posted April 8, 2020 #35 Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) I think the cruise lines MUST create space between pax in public areas. Whether that involves embarkation/ debarkation changes, buffet changes, show changes....I guess the 200 sq ft rooms are safe for now since it’s a virtual quarantine. They NEED a marketing miracle to change public perception since cruising is #2 on the dirty list just behind nursing homes. I’ll probably cruise again but wish Carnival was much more responsive (hence responsible) to folks with pending refunds. My booked cruise is not until October. I have not panicked & called either CCL not my TA.....yet. TLDR; create a fun/safe environment again for new cruisers. Refund ASAP those existing/long-term cruisers fares. edit for 1 more item: World cruises or any over 10-12 days....I just don’t know what precautions cruise lines must take. Edited April 8, 2020 by TooManyWakeUpsTilWeSail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly333 Posted April 8, 2020 #36 Share Posted April 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, TooManyWakeUpsTilWeSail said: I think the cruise lines MUST create space between pax in public areas. Whether that involves embarkation/ debarkation changes, buffet changes, show changes....I guess the 200 sq ft rooms are safe for now since it’s a virtual quarantine. They NEED a marketing miracle to change public perception since cruising is #2 on the dirty list just behind nursing homes. I’ll probably cruise again but wish Carnival was much more responsive (hence responsible) to folks with pending refunds. My booked cruise is not until October. I have not panicked & called either CCL not my TA.....yet. TLDR; create a fun/safe environment again for new cruisers. Refund ASAP those existing/long-term cruisers fares. I suspect they can't refund faster. Teetering just this side of keeping things afloat, they need cash coming in for new bookings to give out refunds faster. It's going to be tough to stay in business. Giving out refunds faster wouldnt help their cash flow problem. My prediction how things gotta change is they have to charge higher prices to make a profit and pay all those obc they giving out like candy to keep you booking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRVEGAS711 Posted April 8, 2020 #37 Share Posted April 8, 2020 There will be no social distancing. My next cruise on the Panorama, with crew and passengers, will have 7000 people on it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooManyWakeUpsTilWeSail Posted April 8, 2020 #38 Share Posted April 8, 2020 40 minutes ago, firefly333 said: My prediction how things gotta change is they have to charge higher prices to make a profit and pay all those obc they giving out like candy to keep you booking. 1/2 of the current booked equation is cruisers looking to rebook. They hopefully will be happy with extensions + OBC if/when cruises continue. I was addressing 1/2 (or so) looking to get out of the equation for awhile (eg ME) and the sad state of affairs of how they are refunding. Hint, I am a long-time CPA & while I don’t understand the ins/out of CCL, it’s simply not how you maintain your clientele while promising 90 day IOUs. I interpret any replies/counter-replies off-topic fodder. So enough said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObstructedView2 Posted April 8, 2020 #39 Share Posted April 8, 2020 7 Ways Cruise Vacations Will Change Moving Forward Located @: https://cruiseradio.net/7-ways-cruising-will-change-in-the-future/ 🚢 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennboy1981 Posted April 8, 2020 #40 Share Posted April 8, 2020 16 hours ago, geckoaz said: Carnival will adapt on future cruises. What do you think will change? I think buffets will no longer exist. Maybe cafeteria where servers pick it out. Beveragrs will no longer be self served. Maybe 2 turn downs a day to make sure rooms are clean and occupants not sick. Buffet will be gone???? What??? thats like the major thing people look forward to on a cruise. lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray98 Posted April 8, 2020 #41 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Nothing major will change. There may be new cleaning standards and even more focus on hand washing and sanitizer but you simply can't change the cruise ship environment. It is what it is, a captive group. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare shof515 Posted April 8, 2020 #42 Share Posted April 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, tennboy1981 said: Buffet will be gone???? What??? thats like the major thing people look forward to on a cruise. lol from what i read on a different site that had an article about this, they will still be a buffet but it will no longer be self served. they will now be crew members to give you the food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennboy1981 Posted April 8, 2020 #43 Share Posted April 8, 2020 10 minutes ago, shof515 said: from what i read on a different site that had an article about this, they will still be a buffet but it will no longer be self served. they will now be crew members to give you the food. Ugh. I hope maybe its short term. Seems like this is only going to cause lines to be longer and slower. I can see doing this as a temporary precaution when they start back up, but I don't like the idea at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LaRue1975 Posted April 8, 2020 #44 Share Posted April 8, 2020 55 minutes ago, ObstructedView2 said: 7 Ways Cruise Vacations Will Change Moving Forward Located @: https://cruiseradio.net/7-ways-cruising-will-change-in-the-future/ 🚢 Excellent article, thanks! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusinpsychRN Posted April 8, 2020 #45 Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) " Any guest or crew member who exhibits symptoms of influenza or upper respiratory infection with fever is strongly encouraged to visit the medical center for a complimentary medical consultation." And a trip off the ship... (Why won't the blue go away?) Edited April 8, 2020 by crusinpsychRN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geckoaz Posted April 8, 2020 Author #46 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Oh no the bacon police will be the food police. I might lose weight on a cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissCruiseAddict Posted April 8, 2020 #47 Share Posted April 8, 2020 For sure I see them serving people on the buffet instead of people serving themselves and people not being able to get their own drinks on the Lido Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joebucks Posted April 8, 2020 #48 Share Posted April 8, 2020 lol @ people thinking social distancing will be a thing of the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe817 Posted April 8, 2020 #49 Share Posted April 8, 2020 14 minutes ago, Joebucks said: lol @ people thinking social distancing will be a thing of the future Well, that's one way to curb the populations explosion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geckoaz Posted April 8, 2020 Author #50 Share Posted April 8, 2020 A suspension of platinum parties or cruise critic get togethers? Too many in room? What will be effect on excursions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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