Face masks Onboard?? Yes or No --- merged thread

[TheCruisinDude]

33 minutes ago, TooManyWakeUpsTilWeSail said:

Cmon Cruising Dude.  You have the podium.  Tell us your story & hospital.

 

By the way I DID make personal contact unmasked with a family friend more than a month after she became asymptomatic of this horrible illness.  It’s not leprosy (forever contagious) but if you are hospitalized you don’t get visitors PERIOD.

The hospital was here in New Port Richey FL.  My friend came down with it earlier in the year, before they started locking down hospitals and Assisted Living Facilities.   She had difficulty breathing and it did go to pneumonia.  They did not put her on a ventilator, Thank God.  She has several health problems but she survived it and now is in excellent health.   

[TheCruisinDude]

16 minutes ago, TNcruising02 said:

My dad had surgery in April and nobody was allowed inside of the hospital except patients.  I do not believe that a hospital would allow visitors, other than maybe parents of a minor child, to visit a person hospitalized with covid-19.  Way to spread the virus.  Who would sit in the same room, other than a caregiver, with a person who is contagious?  I think it's a troll post.  This person created an account on CC to make that post.

I'm not a troll.  I started cruising when I moved to Florida in 2000.  I've been reviewing cruises on this site for years but just signed up to let my thoughts about masks on cruise ships be heard.  Also, I have many youtube reviews on past cruises.  You will find my reviews of Norwegian Sky, Norwegian Sun and Celebrity Infinity to name the last 3 ships I sailed on.  

[PA Dutchman]

If your still required to wear a mask you still have problems that can wipe out the ship

 

[jetsfan58]

Interesting Read. Just received this.

 

https://cruisehive.us9.list-manage.com/track/click?u=2647d361dd0bc790624342f77&id=021a95df80&e=38df157ef2

 

[TheCruisinDude]

19 hours ago, chipmaster said:

 

Well you may be right, look at all those airlines, require masks, so does Costco, I think they are the way to bankruptcy.

You are right.  Why should I spend thousands of dollars to sit in a restaurant, pool, hot tub or theatre wearing a mask.  I'll vacation elsewhere.  I'm just hoping the cruise lines don't get all crazy over this mask thing.  If they want their workers to wear masks fine but not the customers.

[jetsfan58]

If a customer were to contract the Covid virus during her shift would that make her become more serious about wearing the "Employer Mandated" mask at all times?

 

 

[TooManyWakeUpsTilWeSail]

40 minutes ago, TheCruisinDude said:

The hospital was here in New Port Richey FL.  My friend came down with it earlier in the year, before they started locking down hospitals and Assisted Living Facilities.   She had difficulty breathing and it did go to pneumonia.  They did not put her on a ventilator, Thank God.  She has several health problems but she survived it and now is in excellent health.   

Bay care is the only one I found in New Port Richey.  Here is the specific quote from

their website:

 

The changes take effect Saturday, March 21. Only in certain, specific instances, will visitors be allowed into facilities.

https://baycare.org/newsroom/2020/march/visitation-at-baycare-hospitals-closed-in-response-to-covid19

 

Sounds like your friend was sick well before this as my state was stay-home mandates on 3/21.  If you added the context of friend had Coronavirus in Jan/Feb, somehow got an early test, and hospital was stupid in allowing visitors to highly contagious patients....I still don’t believe.

Edited June 1, 2020 by TooManyWakeUpsTilWeSail

[TheCruisinDude]

10 minutes ago, bitemyfly said:

As of today the entire pasco county where New Port Richey is located had a total of 388 positive cases, a total of 76 hospitalization and tragically a total of 13 deaths. Take a look at NYC or if you were there or surrounded by people from the city and you might have a different approach regarding  masks..don’t get me wrong I’m not cruising till they have a good treatment , my choice but at the end of the day Appropriate risk management couple with geography and data rule 

Pasco has done very good.  We have over a half million people in my county (Pasco) and most are elderly.   I think NYC had multiple issues which made things worse, like sticking the covid-19 people in nursing homes.   I feel everyone has a right to do what they think is best.  I chose not to wear a mask.  If others want to wear it, good for them.

[TheCruisinDude]

13 minutes ago, TooManyWakeUpsTilWeSail said:

Bay care is the only one I found in New Port Richey.  Here is the specific quote from

their website:

 

The changes take effect Saturday, March 21. Only in certain, specific instances, will visitors be allowed into facilities.

https://baycare.org/newsroom/2020/march/visitation-at-baycare-hospitals-closed-in-response-to-covid19

 

Sounds like your friend was sick well before this as my state was stay-home mandates on 3/21.  If you added the context of friend had Coronavirus in Jan/Feb, somehow got an early test, and hospital was stupid in allowing visitors to highly contagious patients....I still don’t believe.

Yes, she was sick before the whole lockdown on visitors and stuff happened.    

[Organized Chaos]

To those of you who have made it clear that you will not be cruising anytime soon, many saying not until there's a viable treatment or a vaccine, why are you hear telling those of us who are willing to cruise what you think we should do on those cruises? None of you will be exposed to anyone not wearing a mask because you won't be there, so maybe you shouldn't be telling others what you think they should be doing.

 

32 minutes ago, skridge said:

I don't understand how someone becomes a militant anti masker.

 

That's funny, because the only people I've seen who become infuriated over masks are the ones who insist everyone wear one. Did you see the news broadcast of the anchor in the studio and the reporter on location in Wisconsin insulting everyone enjoying the outdoors on Memorial Day weekend because they weren't wearing masks? Then the gentleman standing nearby pointed out, on camera, that the cameraman himself, along with half the news crew, weren't wearing masks. Oops...quickly cut back to the studio. How about the video of the woman in a store who wasn't wearing a mask and was surrounded by an angry mob who were screaming at her and berating her and forced her to leave. How about the people on this very forum who attack & insult anyone who doesn't conform to their views.The only "militants" I see are the ones forcing their mask-wearing views on everyone else.

[geckoaz]

Gene DellaSala told 8 On Your Side he’s lost count, but the health department has tested him for COVID-19 at least 10 times.

The 46-year-old was the first person from Pasco County to test positive back on March 10.

[roguebandit]

2 hours ago, PA Dutchman said:

If your still required to wear a mask you still have problems that can wipe out the ship

 

I read on the CDC website that the Diamond Princess had an infection rate of 1.6% with little or no knowledge of how to deal with covid-19 like we do now.  My age group has an infection rate of .3%, I will take those odds and get on with my life. more dangerous driving through Houston,  Tx to the cruise terminal than catching the coronavirus.

[geckoaz]

Funny. Cruising was thought of as lazy old folks vacation and now it is the riskiest adventure of all. Next year maybe we will climb mt everest..something less risky. But i will probably need a mask.

[skridge]

1 hour ago, Organized Chaos said:

To those of you who have made it clear that you will not be cruising anytime soon, many saying not until there's a viable treatment or a vaccine, why are you hear telling those of us who are willing to cruise what you think we should do on those cruises? None of you will be exposed to anyone not wearing a mask because you won't be there, so maybe you shouldn't be telling others what you think they should be doing.

 

 

That's funny, because the only people I've seen who become infuriated over masks are the ones who insist everyone wear one. Did you see the news broadcast of the anchor in the studio and the reporter on location in Wisconsin insulting everyone enjoying the outdoors on Memorial Day weekend because they weren't wearing masks? Then the gentleman standing nearby pointed out, on camera, that the cameraman himself, along with half the news crew, weren't wearing masks. Oops...quickly cut back to the studio. How about the video of the woman in a store who wasn't wearing a mask and was surrounded by an angry mob who were screaming at her and berating her and forced her to leave. How about the people on this very forum who attack & insult anyone who doesn't conform to their views.The only "militants" I see are the ones forcing their mask-wearing views on everyone else.

First of all, if it were as simple as you make it I wouldn't care.  I really wish that people not wearing masks didn't effect me because I don't think I would care if they got the virus.  Unfortunately when you get the virus and see me in a grocery store without your mask on you could spread it to me.  I have not berated anyone.  What I have done is try to express to people that choose not to wear masks in public that it does effect me.  Also when a big outbreak happens on a cruise ship it effects me and everyone that works in the hospitals that have to treat you.  

[chipmaster]

Everyone has an opinion, here is one more for a read:  

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/01/opinion/coronavirus-face-mask-south.html

 

[sgttami]

I have to wear a mask to go shopping where I live. I have no choice.

 

Cruising is a choice.  If I have to wear a mask on a cruise, I'm not going.

 

End of subject. No debate.

[Roger88]

I dont mind wearing a mask on board but this is not exactly what I was going to cruise for. I dont want to be limited in any way. Just like I dont want the buffet to go away or elevator to stop working etc. When I cruise I want to escape from the on shore problems, not to take it with me... and pay money for it. So I hope it will not be mandatory in a long run 

[jakeT]

Regardless, cruise ships are not set up for separating guests From each other.  Elevators are always packed at show, dinner, time. Dinning rooms pack the people in. Shows, clubs ect.

unless they limit number of guest on the ship, and not make any money,  it’s really isn’t going to matter if you are wearing a face mask or not.  If someone on a packed ship is sick they are going to spread the virus. 
The cruise lines  always were playing games. To abuse there workers. Ships are registered in foreign country’s,  ship have to make a stop in foreign port. Ect.  Then they want the US to bail them out.  The foreign country where they are registered should bail them out.

[Tinknock50]

On 5/17/2020 at 2:24 PM, RogBus101 said:

Will you cruise if face mask required outside of your cabin?

No, I will cancel my two week cruise to Hawaii if forced to wear masks the whole time.  Has there been any official word from Carnival on this?

[Mallefiscent]

On 5/16/2020 at 4:23 PM, dobiemom said:

My GF did that to her mask! 😄

I love your dog. ❤️

[PhillyFan33579]

On 6/1/2020 at 6:57 PM, skridge said:

First of all, if it were as simple as you make it I wouldn't care.  I really wish that people not wearing masks didn't effect me because I don't think I would care if they got the virus.  Unfortunately when you get the virus and see me in a grocery store without your mask on you could spread it to me.  I have not berated anyone.  What I have done is try to express to people that choose not to wear masks in public that it does effect me.  Also when a big outbreak happens on a cruise ship it effects me and everyone that works in the hospitals that have to treat you.  

I would counter that you put yourself at risk by going out in public and exposing yourself to others who may not wear a mask. 

[skridge]

5 minutes ago, PhillyFan33579 said:

I would counter that you put yourself at risk by going out in public and exposing yourself to others who may not wear a mask. 

I agree.  That is why I try to be out in public as little as possible right now, and when I am in public I have on a mask, and try to stay as far away as possible from people who aren't wearing masks.

[CeleBrat]

On 6/1/2020 at 12:21 AM, Cafedumonde said:

The cruise lines won’t require masks.  The only reason why Disney and Universal are requiring them is because the unions demanded them.  No unions with cruise lines.  The masks are pointless anyway and deep down everyone knows it.  

 

Small clarification: there are no unions at Universal.  So, they have the mask policy out of sheer safety and concern for the guests and team members.

[geckoaz]

I watched a youtube video about the reopening of las vegas hotels and casinos. A few observations 1. Sanitary seals on doors letting you know room cleaned. 2. Each room (mgm) had guest pack including an mgm face mask, finger key to punch elevators no more having to use elbows, hand saniizer and a stylus pen for phone. Masks were available for free in lobby. 3. Masks in elevator unless your whole group were only ones in elevator but masks up as door open. 4. People were not wearing masks by choice. 5. No masks in pool. Hotels at lower occupancy. Wonder if this is future of cruising. 

Edited June 7, 2020 by geckoaz

[AmBear]

On 6/1/2020 at 4:35 PM, TheCruisinDude said:

You are right.  Why should I spend thousands of dollars to sit in a restaurant, pool, hot tub or theatre wearing a mask.  I'll vacation elsewhere.  I'm just hoping the cruise lines don't get all crazy over this mask thing.  If they want their workers to wear masks fine but not the customers.

Maybe you, but not me!

I won't go anywhere masks aren't required!

I see masks as people wanting to care for each others health the best they can!

You say crazy, to me I see not wearing a mask as crazy!