clo Posted June 14, 2020 #101 Share Posted June 14, 2020 6 hours ago, ToxM said: If nothing else, you ill be singing this the rest of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulchili Posted June 15, 2020 #102 Share Posted June 15, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, DrHemlock said: There's a frequent poster on this board who likes to go on about deciding for himself how much risk he's willing to take, then acting upon it -- which, in his case, means no mask because he's willing to take the risk of getting COVID. Well, sir, you may not be worried about the risk to yourself, but that's really not the issue, is it? If you refuse to wear a mask in close quarters in public, then you are the risk. Masks (except for the fancy ones we ordinary civilians can't obtain) don't really do much to protect you from others; their purpose is to protect others from you. Just like when the surgeon operates on your knee or shoulder: his/her mask isn't protection against your knee germs; they're protection against his/her germs getting into your open wound. Is that so difficult to understand, and is consideration for the health of others such a disagreeable concept? I was going to click on the like button but I decided that this would not be enough to express how much I agree with you. Thus I will say +1000. Edited June 15, 2020 by Paulchili 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare pinotlover Posted June 15, 2020 #103 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Since we have adequately established that the wearing of the mask is about me protecting you, I agree. I faithfully wear my mask when going to the grocery, Pharmancy, liquor store, doctor’s office, or anywhere in a public place. That’s for your protection. I don’t wear my mask, as some do, driving down the road with the windows rolled up, mowing my yard, weed eating, working in my garden out back, or while having an adult beverage sitting on my back porch. No one is anywhere close to me while I’m doing those acts, and if it concerns you, for your own safety, stay far away from my mower and me! Is that courtesy enough? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrHemlock Posted June 15, 2020 #104 Share Posted June 15, 2020 (edited) pinotlover: Totally. Like you, I've seen people wearing their masks doing some of the darnedest things where there is clearly no danger to anyone because there's no one else there. Although, now that I think about it, if a person is, in fact, a carrier/spreader, then the more often and for the longer period of time he/she wears that mask when not needed, it becomes more and more contaminated, thereby reducing its effectiveness -- that's why they come with washing instructions. So, unless one really enjoys doing laundry, it seems equally important not to wear the mask when it isn't necessary. (JMO; not endorsed by Dr Fauci.) Edited June 15, 2020 by DrHemlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted June 15, 2020 #105 Share Posted June 15, 2020 1 hour ago, DrHemlock said: Although, now that I think about it, if a person is, in fact, a carrier/spreader, then the more often and for the longer period of time he/she wears that mask when not needed, it becomes more and more contaminated, thereby reducing its effectiveness -- Well hopefully most people are smart enough to wash after each outing or use a disposable mask once But then again 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeanine Posted June 15, 2020 #106 Share Posted June 15, 2020 I think it is weird to wear a mask while driving a car with no one else in it! Why do these people do this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janecambridge Posted June 15, 2020 #107 Share Posted June 15, 2020 (edited) 35 minutes ago, jeanine said: I think it is weird to wear a mask while driving a car with no one else in it! Why do these people do this? Possibly they are visiting a couple of places and don't want to touch the mask, If unable to wash hands straight after doing so. Edited June 15, 2020 by janecambridge 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeanine Posted June 15, 2020 #108 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Didn’t think of this! Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiidan Posted June 16, 2020 #109 Share Posted June 16, 2020 18 hours ago, jeanine said: I think it is weird to wear a mask while driving a car with no one else in it! Why do these people do this? Panic...induced by hearing and listening to too many divergent opinions..... Fear is all consuming for some people and they react rather than respond. irrational behavior becomes rational 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare pinotlover Posted June 16, 2020 #110 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Fear mongering and yellow journalism go hand in hand! 5 minutes ago, Hawaiidan said: Panic...induced by hearing and listening to too many divergent opinions..... Fear is all consuming for some people and they react rather than respond. irrational behavior becomes rational What is a 70+ year old , mowing his yard in 90+ degree heat and 70+% humidity, doing wearing a mask? Do you believe COVID is his biggest danger! Do you believe COVID is a danger at all doing that tasks? Yellow Journalism has convinced him it is! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulchili Posted June 16, 2020 #111 Share Posted June 16, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, pinotlover said: What is a 70+ year old , mowing his yard in 90+ degree heat and 70+% humidity, doing wearing a mask?Yellow Journalism has convinced him it is! It is useless and overkill but give him credit for following instructions - wear a mask when outside your house. It is a MUCH, MUCH better choice and behavior than I see people in do in large crowds - be it in Ozarks swimming pools or during mass street protests in close contact with each other NOT wearing one. The first example is harmless the latter one is harmful - that's the difference. Maybe those not wearing a mask were convinced by a different type of yellow journalism that they don't need to do it. Kudos to the old man and shame to those others. Edited June 16, 2020 by Paulchili 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanandJim Posted June 16, 2020 #112 Share Posted June 16, 2020 FWIW, my Dentist just got an update from the CDC concerning Covid which warns that when engaging in STRENUOUS physical activities, a twelve to fifteen foot social distance becomes prudent. ...Just how big was this gentlemens' lawn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ORV Posted June 16, 2020 #113 Share Posted June 16, 2020 2 hours ago, pinotlover said: Fear mongering and yellow journalism go hand in hand! What is a 70+ year old , mowing his yard in 90+ degree heat and 70+% humidity, doing wearing a mask? Do you believe COVID is his biggest danger! Do you believe COVID is a danger at all doing that tasks? Yellow Journalism has convinced him it is! Here is a completely different take on this. Years ago I had a Snapper mower with a grass catcher. It created so much dust that I had to wear a mask to filter the dust. This was probably 35 years ago. Perhaps what he was doing was similar and has nothing to do with what's happening with Covid. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunelm Posted June 16, 2020 #114 Share Posted June 16, 2020 On 5/13/2020 at 8:56 AM, Hawaiidan said: First of all all you have to do is listen to the press release weekly by " the experts" who keep changing their opinions. In Britain they fired their expert because of his inaccurate and over the top forcasts. Washington state experts keep revising their opinions... This virus has been around for a long time and just keeps morphing This current morph will change too. While there is a danger it is mainly in high population, medical susceptible/ vulnerable people. 50-80% are in nursing homes.. The numbers keep going down in new cases but the media who loves bad news loves to paint a different picture. My point is, that the threat is real but people are being hyped politicians and the press. It is not going to last forever that is just logic as nothing does. Masks will slowly go away I suspect when the panic subsides Have many friends in Britain, one of whom is a surgeon. The number of deaths there are the highest in Europe. The state in which I live is seeing a surge in cases and deaths almost one month after the governor started to open up non-essential businesses. Yes ! There is confusion, therefore all the more reason to be cautious. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdoraBelle Posted June 16, 2020 #115 Share Posted June 16, 2020 45 minutes ago, ORV said: Here is a completely different take on this. Years ago I had a Snapper mower with a grass catcher. It created so much dust that I had to wear a mask to filter the dust. This was probably 35 years ago. Perhaps what he was doing was similar and has nothing to do with what's happening with Covid. Lots of people in my neighborhood, including my husband, already wore masks when mowing. Dust, fuel fumes, grass, etc. It's just that now people feel good about noticing and judging it, for some absolutely insane reason. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted June 16, 2020 #116 Share Posted June 16, 2020 If you do not want to wear a mask then don't if you want to wear one that is OK If you go to a place of business where they say "no mask no service" then just keep moving I notice some States that opened up places early are now having spikes in cases of the virus We are just starting open up here starting Friday in my area hairdressers & shops can open with guidelines I will wear a mask when shopping still YMMV 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clo Posted June 16, 2020 #117 Share Posted June 16, 2020 5 hours ago, StanandJim said: ...Just how big was this gentlemens' lawn? I used to mow about three acres! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkNC Posted June 16, 2020 #118 Share Posted June 16, 2020 3 hours ago, LHT28 said: If you do not want to wear a mask then don't if you want to wear one that is OK If you go to a place of business where they say "no mask no service" then just keep moving I notice some States that opened up places early are now having spikes in cases of the virus We are just starting open up here starting Friday in my area hairdressers & shops can open with guidelines I will wear a mask when shopping still YMMV NC is considering make wearing a mask mandatory when out in public. We opened things up three weeks ago and the virus has exploded. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulchili Posted June 16, 2020 #119 Share Posted June 16, 2020 1 minute ago, KirkNC said: NC is considering make wearing a mask mandatory when out in public. This approach has worked very well in many countries where it was mandatory. There is plenty evidence for it, none against it AFAIK. It's not the final solution but it can only help when done properly in public. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkNC Posted June 16, 2020 #120 Share Posted June 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Paulchili said: This approach has worked very well in many countries where it was mandatory. There is plenty evidence for it, none against it AFAIK. It's not the final solution but it can only help when done properly in public. I agree, look at the Asian countries where it is much more accepted to wear a mask and they have much lower case numbers and deaths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kathy9 Posted June 17, 2020 #121 Share Posted June 17, 2020 According to the The Lancet, a leading medical Journal, social distancing( at least 3 feet) and masks help reduce the spread of the coronavirus. Also maintain good hand hygiene. I personally don't wear a mask while driving in my car, walking or sitting on the beach. Carry a small bottle of hand sanitizer so you can remove your mask when you get back to your car. New Jersey has had some of the most rigorous return to "normal" guidelines but our numbers have been dropping. I doubt our Governor will be reelected though. Stay safe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunlover12 Posted June 17, 2020 #122 Share Posted June 17, 2020 I’ve been on a cross country road trip helping a family member move. Eastern State to Western State. It seems the farther west we go there have been too many people not wearing masks. Walked into a very busy convenience store the other day and not one person was wearing a mask except my husband and I and the store clerk. No social distancing at all. We could not believe it and got out of there quickly. These 2 states are seeing spikes in the number of cases. Makes me wonder what people are thinking or if they bother to read or watch the news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulchili Posted June 17, 2020 #123 Share Posted June 17, 2020 24 minutes ago, sunlover12 said: It seems the farther west we go there have been too many people not wearing masks. What 2 States are you talking about not wearing masks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunlover12 Posted June 17, 2020 #124 Share Posted June 17, 2020 19 minutes ago, Paulchili said: What 2 States are you talking about not wearing masks? Utah and Nevada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulchili Posted June 17, 2020 #125 Share Posted June 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, sunlover12 said: Utah and Nevada. I am not surprised - hope they change their minds and their ways soon. We know what the results will be otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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