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[RobInMN]

8 minutes ago, notamermaid said:

As a non-Anglo I am sorry to say I did not get the plot... Why are the biscuits in the gravy?

What the UK & Europe would call a "biscuit", we call a "Cookie"

 

In the US, especially the southern US, Biscuits and Gravy is a classic breakfast dish:

 

 

 

[Canal archive]

Just to say I’ve never tried it - that’s biscuits with gravy, it just doesn’t look or sound very appetising. Although I’m sure there are things we eat in Europe that wouldn’t tempt an American palate.

[Daisi]

2 hours ago, notamermaid said:

As a non-Anglo I am sorry to say I did not get the plot... Why are the biscuits in the gravy?

 

notamermaid

 

 

UK refers to biscuits as what North Americans refer to as cookies. This is a photo of American (not a Canadian thing) biscuits and gravy.  I've never tried it, looks very unappetizing to me, however in the southern states, it's very common. Guess they would look at some of our dishes and think the same - poutine anyone? 🙂  

[ural guy]

First time I had biscuits and gravy, it was cooked by my buddies German wife.  After she browned the sausage, I was waiting for the grease to be drained off.  Nope, not in her recipe.  It was good, just not something I seek out.

 

She was raised in a small farming village outside Wertheim, and was living in farm country Illinois when she made it for us, so no idea where she picked it up from.

 

 

[notamermaid]

Get it, thanks. Kinda - weird. So what is the American biscuit? Savoury or made out of what we call a biscuit dough? It is always sweet as far as I know: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biskuitmasse

 

The only that I can think of that seems similar is Yorkshire Pudding in gravy but you would not normally have meat in it.

 

notamermaid

 

 

[ural guy]

Just regular biscuit dough, neither sweet nor savory.

 

 

[CPT Trips]

In the event some of y’all want to try . . . it’s easy. 
https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/20075/basic-biscuits/

Try jam, marmalade, or honey. 
 

Then, if you dare . . .

https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/17495/sausage-gravy-i/

 

 

[Host Jazzbeau]

1 hour ago, notamermaid said:

Get it, thanks. Kinda - weird. So what is the American biscuit? Savoury or made out of what we call a biscuit dough? It is always sweet as far as I know: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biskuitmasse

 

The only that I can think of that seems similar is Yorkshire Pudding in gravy but you would not normally have meat in it.

 

notamermaid

 

46 minutes ago, ural guy said:

Just regular biscuit dough, neither sweet nor savory.

Often with a taste of baking soda.

[CPT Trips]

5 hours ago, Canal archive said:

Just to say I’ve never tried it - that’s biscuits with gravy, it just doesn’t look or sound very appetising. Although I’m sure there are things we eat in Europe that wouldn’t tempt an American palate.

The part of an “English” breakfast that I always skip - blood pudding

 

8 hours ago, Canal archive said:

Does anyone know where those removed parts end up, I dread to think.

 

Haggis? Bangers?
 

[notamermaid]

This topic has somehow made me think of the "huge suspicious looking sausages in a scarlet pimpernel sauce" in Mrs. Miggins Pie Shop (later coffee shoppe) and the desperate French aristocrat nibbling on, well, something.

 

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0526725/characters/nm0040814

 

One of my favourite things for breakfast is liver sausage spread.

 

notamermaid

 

[screwsmcernst]

5 hours ago, Daisi said:

 

UK refers to biscuits as what North Americans refer to as cookies. This is a photo of American (not a Canadian thing) biscuits and gravy.  I've never tried it, looks very unappetizing to me, however in the southern states, it's very common. Guess they would look at some of our dishes and think the same - poutine anyone? 🙂  

I am from the South.  I won't touch biscuits and gravy but my husband loves it.   I ADORE poutine.  😃  

[screwsmcernst]

3 hours ago, notamermaid said:

Get it, thanks. Kinda - weird. So what is the American biscuit? Savoury or made out of what we call a biscuit dough? It is always sweet as far as I know: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biskuitmasse

 

The only that I can think of that seems similar is Yorkshire Pudding in gravy but you would not normally have meat in it.

 

notamermaid

 

 

The closest thing for Europeans would be a savory scone.   In the US, the biscuit will most often be savory, but sugar can be added to the dough if you are using it for dessert like Strawberry Shortcake or a cobbler.  We also have scones, but they are also different from biscuits.  

[screwsmcernst]

3 minutes ago, screwsmcernst said:

The closest thing for Europeans would be a savory scone.   In the US, the biscuit will most often be savory, but sugar can be added to the dough if you are using it for dessert like Strawberry Shortcake or a cobbler.  We also have scones, but they are also different from biscuits.  

 

 

Edited September 24 by screwsmcernst

[Canal archive]

Full English includes sausages - link sausages big fat ones are no no for me I prefer chipolatas  that’s skinny sausages but Cumberland style. I cannot stand black pudding but all the guys do so that’s never left off Christmas breakfast. 
Another conundrum if you live out of the U.K. on a cream tea is it scone, cream, strawberry jam or scone, strawberry jam, cream? It is just a tad of a trick question!

Scones rise, biscuits don’t there flat.

[LuAnn]

44 minutes ago, Canal archive said:

Full English includes sausages - link sausages big fat ones are no no for me I prefer chipolatas  that’s skinny sausages but Cumberland style. I cannot stand black pudding but all the guys do so that’s never left off Christmas breakfast. 
Another conundrum if you live out of the U.K. on a cream tea is it scone, cream, strawberry jam or scone, strawberry jam, cream? It is just a tad of a trick question!

Scones rise, biscuits don’t there flat.

I didn't know there was a "rule" but I always do scone, jam and then cream on top....no? 

[ural guy]

1 hour ago, screwsmcernst said:

 

 

Peach cobbler looks delicious.

 

 

[Host Jazzbeau]

1 hour ago, LuAnn said:

I didn't know there was a "rule" but I always do scone, jam and then cream on top....no? 

I know that some would strenuously disagree with you – but to me, you are obviously right:  if you put the jam on top of the cream, the cream will deflate and/or the jam will slide off.  [That is, if you put both jam and cream in the vast quantities that I do!]

[texasstar]

15 hours ago, jpalbny said:

Similar to "prairie oysters" then?

Also known as "calf fries".

[Canal archive]

🤣 great never heard of “calf fries” good one.

The cream conundrum is all about the battle of two dairy producing and a few other bits and adjacent English Counties - Devon and Cornwall. The cream must of course be ‘clotted’ to start with.

If your leaning is towards Cornwall it’s jam first and if you’re an almost Devonian it’s cream first. This is serious stuff it can cause rifts between friends!

 

Oh cannot stand black or blood pudding and is it German white sausages?
 

[notamermaid]

German white sausages - this must be the Weißwürste? They are Bavarian really and definitely not my favourite type of sausage.

 

notamermaid

 

[jpalbny]

Weisswurst is delicious! You have to eat them correctly though. For breakfast. With the casing removed, and with sweet mustard. I didn't care much for them either, until I ate them the right way.

[pontac]

17 hours ago, notamermaid said:

So what is the American biscuit?

 

It's like a British scone, but without being sweet.

 

In Britain scones are the source of two arguments

 

1) Should they be pronounced to rhyme with 'cone' or 'gone'. On is a northern British pronunciation while own is a Southern British pronunciation. I'm a southerner and I make s-cones, but my Northern wife never eats them, she eats sc-ons.

 

2) Do you top them with cream first and then jam or jam first and then cream. One is the Cornish way, one is the Devon way.

 

Our own dear Queen was dragged into the controversy.

The Queen settles scone debate on whether jam or cream should go first | The Independent | The Independent

 

As The Independent newspaper said "Scones might just be the most controversial baked good of our time."

[ural guy]

With US biscuits, we typically put butter and jam/jelly/preserves on them.  So vaguely close to the UK scone, with cream and preserves.

 

The other option is to make a sandwich out of them, with ham or bacon with cheese and an egg.

 

Pillsbury has the refrigerated tubes of dough, just pop open a can, put them on a baking tray and throw in oven.  Not like Momma's, but good.

 

 

[LuAnn]

9 hours ago, pontac said:

 

It's like a British scone, but without being sweet.

 

In Britain scones are the source of two arguments

 

1) Should they be pronounced to rhyme with 'cone' or 'gone'. On is a northern British pronunciation while own is a Southern British pronunciation. I'm a southerner and I make s-cones, but my Northern wife never eats them, she eats sc-ons.

 

2) Do you top them with cream first and then jam or jam first and then cream. One is the Cornish way, one is the Devon way.

 

Our own dear Queen was dragged into the controversy.

The Queen settles scone debate on whether jam or cream should go first | The Independent | The Independent

 

As The Independent newspaper said "Scones might just be the most controversial baked good of our time."

Oh good!! I do it "The Queen's Way"!!! 🙂 🙂 Thanks for the info!!!

[notamermaid]

It is September and the first real autumn storms have swept through the valley. The Christmas biscuits are in the shops. I am not ready for autumn, would have liked a longer summer this year. Must have something to do with the fact that I have not taken a holiday. Here I am eating vineyard peaches and sweeping the first autumn leaves out of the yard. Perhaps finally in October I will leave my country for a few days. River cruises - for me so near and yet so far. I was thinking that a short trip of a few hours on the Moselle might be nice. Have never seen the river beyond Winningen from a ship's view.

 

I really enjoyed standing on the river bank at Unkel on the Rhine and watching the "MS Theresia", a regional excursion boat, arrive. There are quite a few boats on the Rhine and you can sail short and long stretches of it. The winter sailings to see the Christmas markets and lights are appealing but the cold weather is sort of keeping me from trying one out.

 

notamermaid