IS THIS TRUE OR JUST MISINFORMATION?

[John&LaLa]

Easy fix, rescind Hawaii statehood.

 

While your at it, rescind Alaska as well. 

 

Take us back to contiguous United States 

 

Cruise Hawaii to Alaska, no need to deal with CDC restrictions. Stay away from Canada, though.😉

[cruise wizard]

We are booked on a Celebrity cruise from Hawaii to Vancouver and then booked on a Royal Caribbean ship on the same day that we port in Vancouver..................any problems??

[Ourusualbeach]

4 minutes ago, cruise wizard said:

We are booked on a Celebrity cruise from Hawaii to Vancouver and then booked on a Royal Caribbean ship on the same day that we port in Vancouver..................any problems??

None.  Different cruise lines.

Edited April 2, 2021 by Ourusualbeach

[BettyCruiser]

1 hour ago, Ourusualbeach said:

None.  Different cruise lines.

 

As I understand it, it just needs to be a different ship, doesn't need to be a different cruise line. 

[ATSEAMYLIFE]

10 hours ago, 1025cruise said:

I'm sorry, but your B2B isn't allowed. There is no stop at a distant foreign port. 

So, how do all those cruises that only stop at Ensenada qualify as "distant" port?

 

[robtulipe]

18 minutes ago, ATSEAMYLIFE said:

So, how do all those cruises that only stop at Ensenada qualify as "distant" port?

 

Any foreign port stop is OK and meets the PVSA requirement for closed loop cruises that returns to the same US port they embarked at.

Only one way cruises between two different US port require the distant foreign port stop.

Edited April 2, 2021 by robtulipe

[Merion_Mom]

3 hours ago, ATSEAMYLIFE said:

So, how do all those cruises that only stop at Ensenada qualify as "distant" port?

 

 

2 hours ago, robtulipe said:

Any foreign port stop is OK and meets the PVSA requirement for closed loop cruises that returns to the same US port they embarked at.

Only one way cruises between two different US port require the distant foreign port stop.

 

Or phrased differently:

 

Closed loop cruise needs foreign port.

 

Non-closed loop cruise between two US ports needs DISTANT foreign port.

 

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BTW,  there are no "distant" foreign ports on the west coast.  Canada and Mexico do not count as distant foreign ports.

 

On the east coast, ships have to go to one or more of the ABC islands, or a country in South America to qualify as DISTANT foreign ports.

 

To further complicate things, Puerto Rico is exempt from the PVSA rules.

[robtulipe]

1 hour ago, Merion_Mom said:

 

BTW,  there are no "distant" foreign ports on the west coast.  Canada and Mexico do not count as distant foreign ports.

 

 

Actually any port on the Pacific coast of South America, like Manta,  Equador are the Americas west coast distant foreign ports but these are way out of the way for one way cruises between Hawaii and the west coast of the USA. Typically it easier, less expensive and more practical for non-US flagged cruse line ships to embark or disembark their passengers  in Vancouver, Canada or Ensenada, Mexico.

The latter has been used twice when we have done one way cruises between Hawaii and the west coast with the cruise line providing transport for us and our luggage between Ensenada and San Diego. 

Central America ports are not distant foreign port as these are considered as part of North America in the PVSA.

Edited April 3, 2021 by robtulipe

[sandancer]

11 hours ago, Ourusualbeach said:

None.  Different cruise lines.

We are doing a similar itinerary. Sydney to Honolulu with Royal. Staying 2 nights in Hawaii and then Celebrity to Vancouver. Thank you for that reassurance. 

[Ourusualbeach]

1 hour ago, sandancer said:

We are doing a similar itinerary. Sydney to Honolulu with Royal. Staying 2 nights in Hawaii and then Celebrity to Vancouver. Thank you for that reassurance. 

Going from Sydney to Vancouver isn’t an issue.  You can do that on the same cruise line. 

[Merion_Mom]

11 hours ago, robtulipe said:

Actually any port on the Pacific coast of South America, like Manta,  Equador are the Americas west coast distant foreign ports but these are way out of the way for one way cruises between Hawaii and the west coast of the USA. Typically it easier, less expensive and more practical for non-US flagged cruse line ships to embark or disembark their passengers  in Vancouver, Canada or Ensenada, Mexico.

The latter has been used twice when we have done one way cruises between Hawaii and the west coast with the cruise line providing transport for us and our luggage between Ensenada and San Diego. 

Central America ports are not distant foreign port as these are considered as part of North America in the PVSA.

 

I was speaking of ports that the cruiselines can use.  

[Merion_Mom]

5 hours ago, sandancer said:

We are doing a similar itinerary. Sydney to Honolulu with Royal. Staying 2 nights in Hawaii and then Celebrity to Vancouver. Thank you for that reassurance. 

The PVSA applies to cruises between two UNITED STATES ports.  Sydney is Australia.  You can end anywhere you want, as far as the United States cares, if you start in another country.

[twangster]

I was surprised recently when a senior executive in sales for Celebrity called it the Jones Act several times.  No wonder travel agents are confused.

[SW.FloridaPhil]

On 4/2/2021 at 10:34 AM, crzndeb said:

That was my quote from the Roll Call, and this happens every year. Literally dozens of posts on this subject. There are ways around it, but it either means embarking the cruise in a foreign country or jumping to a different ship for one leg.

This happened to friends many years ago, after they had made air and hotel reservations. It was another cruise line, but the cruise line was very accommodating in helping them with cancellation fees.

Since their fiasco, I have become quite knowledgeable on the PVSA and would not pass misinformation. I try to let people know ahead of time, so they don’t make non refundable hotel and air reservations.

Thank you for your information. My TA didn't catch it, but they are offering full refunds and/or  waiving any fees. We may spend a few days in Vancouver and see Alaska anyway.