iancal Posted May 22, 2021 #126 Share Posted May 22, 2021 No one cares. We could not care less what anyone thought fifteen years or more ago when we passed on formal night, remained in casual dress, roamed the ship, the casino, the shows. Some people on the forum did not care but we certainly did not care what they thought. People will dress how they please. A CC forum did not convince us to dress up or hide in our cabin on formal night. After a business life of suits, functions, dinners with clients the very last thing that I (or my spouse) wanted to do was dress up. Besides, DW always leaves her Sunday beads at home....along with any other valuables. Our goal is always to have a good relaxing time, not to impress others on the ship. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Lady Arwen Posted May 22, 2021 #127 Share Posted May 22, 2021 31 minutes ago, iancal said: No one cares. We could not care less what anyone thought fifteen years or more ago when we passed on formal night, remained in casual dress, roamed the ship, the casino, the shows. Some people on the forum did not care but we certainly did not care what they thought. People will dress how they please. A CC forum did not convince us to dress up or hide in our cabin on formal night. After a business life of suits, functions, dinners with clients the very last thing that I (or my spouse) wanted to do was dress up. Besides, DW always leaves her Sunday beads at home....along with any other valuables. Our goal is always to have a good relaxing time, not to impress others on the ship. And you certainly deserve to enjoy your cruise your way. DH’s tux and white dinner jacket have not left his closet in a very long time and we have a wonderful time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brisalta Posted May 23, 2021 #128 Share Posted May 23, 2021 6 hours ago, scottca075 said: Perhaps it is a translation problem. What I am referring to as a "sports coat" is also called a blazer or tailored jacket and I see them all the time in London, especially in the Carlton Club where jackets and ties are required. A "sports coat" is not a blazer. A blazer has patch pockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_k58 Posted May 23, 2021 #129 Share Posted May 23, 2021 On 5/18/2021 at 11:49 PM, Lucky TGO said: Me to 😁 BTW putting your hat on the dinner table is very Bad luck. Tony and those who do wear hats at the table should NOT go to the casino, or they will get taken to the cleaners 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_k58 Posted May 23, 2021 #130 Share Posted May 23, 2021 On 5/18/2021 at 11:20 PM, Albinroo said: Yes I think smart dress shorts should be perfectly fine unless it's formal night. It just seems obvious that allowing women to have short skirts but mens legs needs to be covered at all costs is just an outdated arbitrary rule. Baseball caps on the other hand, I don't see the need for in a dining room. I still don't know what " smart" shorts means Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GonzoWCS Posted May 23, 2021 #131 Share Posted May 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, dave_k58 said: I still don't know what " smart" shorts means Yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSWP Posted May 23, 2021 #132 Share Posted May 23, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, scottca075 said: The definitions do not change. Just because you can get away with putting on a sport coat on "Formal" night on Princess (or RCI, or whomever) doesn't mean the definition of Formal Wear has changed. It means those cruise lines don't want to enforce the code. I don't take a tux on Princess because I know I don't have to. I do on Cunard because I know I have to. I would on Princess if they enforced rules like Cunard does, but I don't have to because.... well you get the idea. I have been on QM2, dark suit was acceptable for formals, they call them black tie nights. In their dress code policy. On Princess formal nights these days I wear a navy blue blazer and tie, dont Americans call a blazer a bermuda jacket? My old tuxedo shrunk in the sea air, lol. Edited May 23, 2021 by NSWP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSWP Posted May 23, 2021 #133 Share Posted May 23, 2021 10 hours ago, scottca075 said: I work in the finance/investment arena, if anyone in a customer facing role showed up at the office not in a suit, they'd be sent home. Back office, IT, etc aren't expected to wear suits. When Bear Bryant was asked why he wasn't wearing his noted houndstooth hat in the Sugar Bowl (in the Superdome) he replied, "Mama said when you go indoors you take off your hat." Perhaps it is a translation problem. What I am referring to as a "sports coat" is also called a blazer or tailored jacket and I see them all the time in London, especially in the Carlton Club where jackets and ties are required. What is a "staycation cruise"? Anything starting in the UK? I've been on quite a few European cruises, Baltic to Aegean and everything in between with gentlemen from the UK named Onslow, who seemed to feel differently. A new idea due to COVID-19, they start in a few weeks, non stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribill Posted May 23, 2021 #134 Share Posted May 23, 2021 5 hours ago, dave_k58 said: I still don't know what " smart" shorts means It means it scored at least 1200 on the SAT or 31 on the ACT. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodndonna Posted May 23, 2021 #135 Share Posted May 23, 2021 12 hours ago, brisalta said: A "sports coat" is not a blazer. A blazer has patch pockets. Is a "patch pocket" the pocket you put the pocket square (folded hankercheif) in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissP22 Posted May 23, 2021 #136 Share Posted May 23, 2021 For as long as I can recall, formal nights on Princess for the guys has been a pair of Dockers & either a dress shirt without a tie, guayabera shirt or polo shirt. The days of requiring a suit or blazer are long gone & I don't expect them to return in the future. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeMates Posted May 23, 2021 #137 Share Posted May 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, MissP22 said: For as long as I can recall, formal nights on Princess for the guys has been a pair of Dockers & either a dress shirt without a tie, guayabera shirt or polo shirt. The days of requiring a suit or blazer are long gone & I don't expect them to return in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeMates Posted May 23, 2021 #138 Share Posted May 23, 2021 11 minutes ago, MissP22 said: For as long as I can recall, formal nights on Princess for the guys has been a pair of Dockers & either a dress shirt without a tie, guayabera shirt or polo shirt. The days of requiring a suit or blazer are long gone & I don't expect them to return in the future. I was just planning to ask this very question. We have just booked a Princess cruise after cruising on another line the last several years and "guayaberas" (Hawaiian style shirts) were quite common, especially in the Carib or Mexico itineraries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pms4104 Posted May 23, 2021 #139 Share Posted May 23, 2021 22 minutes ago, BridgeMates said: I was just planning to ask this very question. We have just booked a Princess cruise after cruising on another line the last several years and "guayaberas" (Hawaiian style shirts) were quite common, especially in the Carib or Mexico itineraries. Guayabera shirts arr traditional Cuban shirts ... nothing to do with Hawaii 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JF - retired RRT Posted May 23, 2021 #140 Share Posted May 23, 2021 15 hours ago, iancal said: Besides, DW always leaves her Sunday beads at home....along with any other valuables. That's the only time I wear my "beads". I have jewelry from my jeweler grandfather and never wear it at home. Some always comes on a cruise with me.😘 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeMates Posted May 23, 2021 #141 Share Posted May 23, 2021 56 minutes ago, pms4104 said: Guayabera shirts arr traditional Cuban shirts ... nothing to do with Hawaii I think you know what I mean.... I am well aware of what a guayabera is, having lived in Panama for over 30 years; however, on most cruises it's the Hawaiian-style shirt that I'm talking about as most people don't have a true guayabera. Thanks for your input and happy cruising🍷 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iancal Posted May 23, 2021 #142 Share Posted May 23, 2021 1 hour ago, JF - retired RRT said: That's the only time I wear my "beads". I have jewelry from my jeweler grandfather and never wear it at home. Some always comes on a cruise with me.😘 A cruise for us is always part of an extended land trip. We have 'travel' jewelry'. Nothing expensive, nothing that we care gets lost or stolen. I took $15 inexpensive plastic watch on many trips for eight years until it broke. Replaced it. Selected one that anyone glancing at it would know it had not value. DW is the same. Anything of value stays home. I am more concerned about misplacing my prescription eyewear than I am about jewelry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beg3yrs Posted May 23, 2021 #143 Share Posted May 23, 2021 11 hours ago, NSWP said: .. dont Americans call a blazer a bermuda jacket? ... Never heard of a Bermuda jacket. Don't think I've been living under a rock either. So, I did a search on that jacket and no, we'd probably never confuse a blazer with a Bermuda jacket as the jacket was originally developed as sailing wear and doesn't even resemble a blazer (well except they both have two sleeves). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iancal Posted May 23, 2021 #144 Share Posted May 23, 2021 Far too many uptight people about. Or insecure. I mean really, how good can it be if your big issue on a cruise is what some other complete stranger wears or does not wear? How good can it be if your big issue is what you are wearing and what some complete stranger will think of you. It is a vacation. You do not have to spend you enjoyable pre cruise or cruise time worrying about this. Just go and have a great time. If covid has taught us anything at all....life is too short so enjoy the time that we have. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincessLuver Posted May 23, 2021 #145 Share Posted May 23, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, MissP22 said: For as long as I can recall, formal nights on Princess for the guys has been a pair of Dockers & either a dress shirt without a tie, guayabera shirt or polo shirt. The days of requiring a suit or blazer are long gone & I don't expect them to return in the future. This has been our experience too......it is much more causal then formal.....and a really lots of outdated and old fashioned formal clothes too on many men and women....... Edited May 23, 2021 by PrincessLuver 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare c-boy Posted May 23, 2021 #146 Share Posted May 23, 2021 2 hours ago, BridgeMates said: I was just planning to ask this very question. We have just booked a Princess cruise after cruising on another line the last several years and "guayaberas" (Hawaiian style shirts) were quite common, especially in the Carib or Mexico itineraries. it's called Floridian chic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribill Posted May 23, 2021 #147 Share Posted May 23, 2021 32 minutes ago, iancal said: How good can it be if your big issue is what you are wearing and what some complete stranger will think of you. It is a vacation. You do not have to spend you enjoyable pre cruise or cruise time worrying about this. Just go and have a great time. If covid has taught us anything at all....life is too short so enjoy the time that we have. The issue is about being respectful of what the suggested dress code is so that the evening has the intended vibe for everyone? If you are invited to a wedding and told that the dress code is formal, would you show up in shorts and a T-shirt? Or would you respect the occasion and dress as requested? 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GonzoWCS Posted May 23, 2021 #148 Share Posted May 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, caribill said: The issue is about being respectful of what the suggested dress code is so that the evening has the intended vibe for everyone? If you are invited to a wedding and told that the dress code is formal, would you show up in shorts and a T-shirt? Or would you respect the occasion and dress as requested? Yes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iancal Posted May 23, 2021 #149 Share Posted May 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, caribill said: The issue is about being respectful of what the suggested dress code is so that the evening has the intended vibe for everyone? If you are invited to a wedding and told that the dress code is formal, would you show up in shorts and a T-shirt? Or would you respect the occasion and dress as requested? Huge difference. On a cruise I am a customer. At a wedding I am a guest. Really, who cares whether the jacket is plaid or a blazer? Or if the slacks are dress or cotton Dockers? Or an ill fitting, seen better days, out of fashion tux or dress purchased 15 years ago when the owner was 30lbs lighter and an inch or so taller. When you say the vibe for everyone I suspect you really mean the vibe for you. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribill Posted May 23, 2021 #150 Share Posted May 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, iancal said: When you say the vibe for everyone I suspect you really mean the vibe for you. Not really. I hate wearing a suit and a tie, but I do it on formal evenings. But I go back to the cabin and change out of it as soon as dinner is over and then go to the other evening's events. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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