latebuyer Posted July 9, 2021 #1 Share Posted July 9, 2021 I’m booked on a caribbean cruise that goes here. I wonder if there is further unrest if they will be able to go to that stop.Do they give obc or a discount if you are unable to go to a stop? I guess this is premature, just curious. It would be nice if the ship stopped somewhere else instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilBlackDress Posted July 9, 2021 #2 Share Posted July 9, 2021 They will either replace the port or change the itinerary... There is no discount or OBC if that happens. The cruise contract pasted below gives them the right to change or cancel a port... 7. CANCELLATION, DEVIATION OR SUBSTITUTION BY CARRIER: a. Carrier may for any reason at any time and without prior notice, cancel, advance, postpone or deviate from any scheduled sailing, port of call, destination, lodging or any activity on or off the Vessel, or substitute another vessel or port of call, destination, lodging or activity. Except as provided in Section 7.e below, and except as provided in Section 4.e or Section 4.f regarding an actual or suspected COVID-19 infection, and except where a refund is required by law as a result of a declaration of a public health emergency or government order cancelling the Cruise or delaying boarding of the Vessel by Passengers by 24 hours or more, Carrier shall not be liable for any claim whatsoever by Passenger, including but not limited to loss, compensation or refund, by reason of such cancellation, advancement, postponement, substitution or deviation. b. In connection with a CruiseTour, Carrier has the same right to cancel, advance, postpone or deviate from any scheduled activity, departure or destination, or substitute another railcar, bus, destination or lodging or other component of the CruiseTour. Except as provided in Section 7.e below, and except as provided in Section 4.e or Section 4.f regarding an actual or suspected COVID-19 infection, and except where a refund is required by law as a result of a declaration of a public health emergency or government order cancelling the Cruise or delaying boarding of the Vessel by Passengers by 24 hours or more, Carrier shall not be liable for any claim by Passenger whatsoever, including but not limited to loss, compensation or refund, by reason of such cancellation, advancement, postponement, substitution or deviation. c. By way of example, and not limitation, Carrier may, without liability (except as provided in Section 7.e below with respect to mechanical failures, except as provided in Section 4.e or Section 4.f regarding an actual or suspected COVID-19 infection, and except where a refund is required by law as a result of a declaration of a public health emergency or government order cancelling the Cruise or delaying boarding of the Vessel by Passengers by 24 hours or more), deviate from any scheduled sailing and may otherwise land Passenger and her property at any port if Carrier believes that the voyage or any Passenger or property may be hindered or adversely affected as a result of hostilities, blockages, prevailing weather conditions, labor conflicts, strikes onboard or ashore, breakdown of Vessel, congestion, docking difficulties, medical or lifesaving emergencies, declared pandemics, public health emergencies or outbreak of communicable disease, quarantines, national or regional emergencies or any other cause whatsoever. d. Carrier shall have the right to comply with any orders, recommendations, or directions whatsoever given by any governmental entity or by persons purporting to act with such authority and such compliance shall not be deemed a breach of this Agreement entitling the Passenger to assert any claim for liability, compensation or refund except as provided in Section 4.e or Section 4.f regarding an actual or suspected COVID-19 infection, and except where a refund is required by law as a result of a declaration of a public health emergency or government order cancelling the Cruise or delaying boarding of the Vessel by Passengers by 24 hours or more. e. In the event that a Cruise (or the cruise component of a CruiseTour) is canceled or terminated early due to mechanical failures: i) Passenger shall have a right to a full refund of the Cruise Fare if the Cruise is canceled in full, or a partial refund if the cruise is terminated early; ii) Carrier may cover or reimburse Passenger for additional costs (e.g. airline change fees) as deemed appropriate by the Carrier. iii) If the Passenger has travelled to the Vessel Passenger shall have a right to transportation (by means selected by the Carrier) to the Vessel’s scheduled port of disembarkation or the Passenger’s home city; and iv) Passenger shall have a right to lodging (selected by the Cruise Line) if disembarkation and an overnight stay in an unscheduled port are required due to the Cruise or cruise component of a CruiseTour being cancelled or terminated early because of such mechanical failures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericfromri Posted July 9, 2021 #3 Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) i don't think anyone will lose sleep over missing a stop at haiti. i am sure whatever the cruise line does, will be a fine replacement. Edited July 9, 2021 by ericfromri 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted July 9, 2021 #4 Share Posted July 9, 2021 3 hours ago, ericfromri said: i don't think anyone will lose sleep over missing a stop at haiti. i am sure whatever the cruise line does, will be a fine replacement. Some people really seem to like the private stops like Labadee. I'm not one of them. We missed Labadee once because of weather. We sailed right by at swimming distance. In return we had a much longer day at our next port, San Juan PR. I was a very happy sailor. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobal Posted July 9, 2021 #5 Share Posted July 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, Ocean Boy said: Some people really seem to like the private stops like Labadee. I'm not one of them. We missed Labadee once because of weather. We sailed right by at swimming distance. In return we had a much longer day at our next port, San Juan PR. I was a very happy sailor. I agree. Last time we called there we said if we visited again we'd stay on the ship 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericfromri Posted July 9, 2021 #6 Share Posted July 9, 2021 20 minutes ago, Ocean Boy said: Some people really seem to like the private stops like Labadee. I'm not one of them. We missed Labadee once because of weather. We sailed right by at swimming distance. In return we had a much longer day at our next port, San Juan PR. I was a very happy sailor. wow RI and Explorer. two of my favorites. RI here also although have been in Iceland for a few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare crewsweeper Posted July 9, 2021 #7 Share Posted July 9, 2021 If cruise ships do dock at Labadee, and there is unrest in Haiti, I would doubt the ships would allow any outside of the facilities excursions. But any unrest will most likely be in the Port-au-Prince area, which is to the south. Appears the assassins have been caught; just a matter of catching who was backing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molly361 Posted July 9, 2021 #8 Share Posted July 9, 2021 24 minutes ago, Ocean Boy said: Some people really seem to like the private stops like Labadee. I'm not one of them. We missed Labadee once because of weather. We sailed right by at swimming distance. In return we had a much longer day at our next port, San Juan PR. I was a very happy sailor. 16 minutes ago, Bobal said: I agree. Last time we called there we said if we visited again we'd stay on the ship I LOVE the private islands. Why you might ask, because most everyone gets off the ship and we DON'T😇 love the almost empty ship 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericfromri Posted July 9, 2021 #9 Share Posted July 9, 2021 1 minute ago, crewsweeper said: If cruise ships do dock at Labadee, and there is unrest in Haiti, I would doubt the ships would allow any outside of the facilities excursions. But any unrest will most likely be in the Port-au-Prince area, which is to the south. Appears the assassins have been caught; just a matter of catching who was backing them. i dont think there will ever be stability. one of the most corrupt places on planet Earth. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph2017China Posted July 9, 2021 #10 Share Posted July 9, 2021 6 hours ago, christinand said: I’m booked on a caribbean cruise that goes here. I wonder if there is further unrest if they will be able to go to that stop.Do they give obc or a discount if you are unable to go to a stop? I guess this is premature, just curious. It would be nice if the ship stopped somewhere else instead. OBC? Discount? What you will get is a refund of port charges only, which might be a few dollars....but no, you are still on a ship, and you only pay for days on the ship. You aren't paying for a stop, so you would be entitled to no money. I have had ports canceled from everything including "too foggy" to "hostile air force buzzing the ship, previous cruise". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobal Posted July 9, 2021 #11 Share Posted July 9, 2021 16 minutes ago, Joseph2017China said: OBC? Discount? What you will get is a refund of port charges only, which might be a few dollars....but no, you are still on a ship, and you only pay for days on the ship. You aren't paying for a stop, so you would be entitled to no money. I have had ports canceled from everything including "too foggy" to "hostile air force buzzing the ship, previous cruise". Well actually we missed a port stop to Coco Cay as the ship couldn't dock there due to high winds and got an OBC of $90, so it does happen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare crewsweeper Posted July 9, 2021 #12 Share Posted July 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Joseph2017China said: OBC? Discount? What you will get is a refund of port charges only, which might be a few dollars....but no, you are still on a ship, and you only pay for days on the ship. You aren't paying for a stop, so you would be entitled to no money. I have had ports canceled from everything including "too foggy" to "hostile air force buzzing the ship, previous cruise". Port fees for missed ports while enroute become OBC. If an itinerary is change prior to initial embarkation, you don't get anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisegirl1 Posted July 9, 2021 #13 Share Posted July 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Bobal said: Well actually we missed a port stop to Coco Cay as the ship couldn't dock there due to high winds and got an OBC of $90, so it does happen Nice - You are lucky and I think you had an unusual occurrence. We've missed so many ports, or had complete itinerary changes over the years that we've lost count. Been cruising for many years and likely missed Coco Cay at least 15 times. I don't recall ever receiving any type of OBC for that or any other missed port. m 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobal Posted July 9, 2021 #14 Share Posted July 9, 2021 14 minutes ago, cruisegirl1 said: Nice - You are lucky and I think you had an unusual occurrence. We've missed so many ports, or had complete itinerary changes over the years that we've lost count. Been cruising for many years and likely missed Coco Cay at least 15 times. I don't recall ever receiving any type of OBC for that or any other missed port. m Actually I just realised I was wrong. It wasn't OBC it was a FCC. I think it may have been because RC had made a big thing about having built the dock and no need to tender. We were one of the first ships due to dock there and were unable to due to high winds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisegirl1 Posted July 9, 2021 #15 Share Posted July 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, Bobal said: Actually I just realised I was wrong. It wasn't OBC it was a FCC. I think it may have been because RC had made a big thing about having built the dock and no need to tender. We were one of the first ships due to dock there and were unable to due to high winds. Thanks for the clarification- Still lucky! We've missed many ports and no FCC for a missed port. M 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atricks Posted July 9, 2021 #16 Share Posted July 9, 2021 There's another thread about this too, Either way first cruise back to Labadee is the Aug 15, Allure, so that'll be one to watch for info there. I don't know if any ship has been down there since the shutdown. If they can't go there the itinerary will probably change unless it's ultra last minute. Although that's about the same risk as hurricane season cruises with ports missed/changed. (Especially this year where we're already at an E storm, that's currently near Long Island, NY) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molly361 Posted July 9, 2021 #17 Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) It was several years ago but we got a pretty good amount of OBC for a shortened stop on the Freedom Christmas cruise. @Ourusualbeach was on board and probably remembers more than I do. It was a very deeply discounted Christmas cruise to begin with. I think we ended up with almost as much OBC as the cruise cost to begin with. I think the ship had apazod issues Edited July 9, 2021 by molly361 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted July 9, 2021 #18 Share Posted July 9, 2021 3 hours ago, Ocean Boy said: Some people really seem to like the private stops like Labadee. I'm not one of them. We missed Labadee once because of weather. We sailed right by at swimming distance. In return we had a much longer day at our next port, San Juan PR. I was a very happy sailor. Same thing happened to us.....weather. Though the ships have missed the port due to unrest (protests in small boats). Both times we missed it, I was like you, happy about it. Not a fan of Labadee. Liked it when it was a tendered port and more natural...but not now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted July 9, 2021 #19 Share Posted July 9, 2021 2 hours ago, molly361 said: I LOVE the private islands. Why you might ask, because most everyone gets off the ship and we DON'T😇 love the almost empty ship LOL...yup! Best thing about them. 😄 Love the uncrowded ship and having lunch on the ship with an almost empty restaurant. 😉 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph2017China Posted July 9, 2021 #20 Share Posted July 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Bobal said: Well actually we missed a port stop to Coco Cay as the ship couldn't dock there due to high winds and got an OBC of $90, so it does happen I'm guessing it wasn't for missing the port but rather a refund of something your paid for. Ships miss ports all the time for many reasons and they have never given OBC as a gift outside of an adjustment of port fees. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare xpcdoojk Posted July 9, 2021 #21 Share Posted July 9, 2021 3 hours ago, Bobal said: I agree. Last time we called there we said if we visited again we'd stay on the ship I was on the FlowRider for the whole day on our last cruise to Labadee, we were supposed to go to Coco Cay but weather pushed us to Labadee. Our friends had a nice beach day, I had a better FlowRider day. It is a long way from Port Au Prince. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latebuyer Posted July 9, 2021 Author #22 Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) I had a friend on a cruise on a different cruise line (i believe ncl) and she received 50.00 for missing a port, not a lot, but something. It would be nice to make a longer stop in puerto rico, i think the time is short there. Ultimately it may affect sales for the ship and they may be motivated to make change. Thanks for the replies. Edited July 9, 2021 by christinand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted July 9, 2021 #23 Share Posted July 9, 2021 59 minutes ago, molly361 said: It was several years ago but we got a pretty good amount of OBC for a shortened stop on the Freedom Christmas cruise. @Ourusualbeach was on board and probably remembers more than I do. It was a very deeply discounted Christmas cruise to begin with. I think we ended up with almost as much OBC as the cruise cost to begin with. I think the ship had apazod issues If I remember correctly we received $450 per person in OBC. The good old days, can't see that happening now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobal Posted July 9, 2021 #24 Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Joseph2017China said: I'm guessing it wasn't for missing the port but rather a refund of something your paid for. Ships miss ports all the time for many reasons and they have never given OBC as a gift outside of an adjustment of port fees. Actually as I mentioned a few posts earlier (#14), I made a mistake, it was a FCC not OBC but I can assure you it was for missing Coco Cay Edited July 9, 2021 by Bobal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted July 9, 2021 #25 Share Posted July 9, 2021 31 minutes ago, Joseph2017China said: Ships miss ports all the time for many reasons and they have never given OBC as a gift While it is rare they absolutely have given OBC to compensate for missed ports 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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