Rare BlerkOne Posted March 25, 2022 #101 Share Posted March 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, drew69 said: Not really. The vast majority of folks on a plane are not flying to board a cruise. Also, highly unlikely to test positive less than 24 hours after exposure on a plane. So you're saying there is a chance. That only increases if people fly in a couple of days earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted March 26, 2022 #102 Share Posted March 26, 2022 9 hours ago, maryann2 said: Not really. Many of us have long flights to get to ports. Potentially testing positive before we board despite negative tests prior to flight. The odds are tiny, but you are correct, there is a chance. There will always be a chance. The choice was, is and always will be yours. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardn198 Posted April 3, 2022 #103 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Didn't a fully vaccinated Princess ship just arrive at port full of Covid cases? ALL of my vaccinated extended family had Covid at Christmas too. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anyone4cruisin Posted April 3, 2022 #104 Share Posted April 3, 2022 20 minutes ago, gardn198 said: Didn't a fully vaccinated Princess ship just arrive at port full of Covid cases? ALL of my vaccinated extended family had Covid at Christmas too. What exactly constitutes “full of Covid cases”? Princess has not released numbers and we shouldn’t speculate. Wait for the facts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lane Hog Posted April 3, 2022 #105 Share Posted April 3, 2022 2 hours ago, gardn198 said: Didn't a fully vaccinated Princess ship just arrive at port full of Covid cases? If less than 100 cases out of 1600 is "full" then possibly. Reading that thread about the Ruby you'd think the whole cruise tested positive... but.... it sounds like it was really only 45 or so in total. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstgradefun Posted April 3, 2022 #106 Share Posted April 3, 2022 My PVP just told me the other day that they plan to keep vaccinations and Covid testing through 2024. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n6uqqq Posted April 3, 2022 #107 Share Posted April 3, 2022 31 minutes ago, firstgradefun said: My PVP just told me the other day that they plan to keep vaccinations and Covid testing through 2024. I would take that with a grain of salt. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tallnthensome Posted April 3, 2022 #108 Share Posted April 3, 2022 59 minutes ago, firstgradefun said: My PVP just told me the other day that they plan to keep vaccinations and Covid testing through 2024. Haha! Yea..... OK. Maybe he told you that but that's pretty much laughable. Pre cruise covid testing through 2024 ..... no way. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purvis1231 Posted April 3, 2022 #109 Share Posted April 3, 2022 2 hours ago, firstgradefun said: My PVP just told me the other day that they plan to keep vaccinations and Covid testing through 2024. I doubt that will happen unless we have another deadly wave. Thankfully, right now the virus has lost most of its bit. I think testing will end soon but vaccinations will continue through this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabberjaw070596 Posted April 4, 2022 #110 Share Posted April 4, 2022 15 hours ago, firstgradefun said: My PVP just told me the other day that they plan to keep vaccinations and Covid testing through 2024. I booked a back to back for February 2023 and my long time PVP told me she has no idea what will happen with testing and Covid requirements and at this point that is a much better answer because I believe no one knows what will happen in the future 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy cruzer Posted April 4, 2022 #111 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Time is key on the vaccination proof. At some point each jab declines in effectiveness. So unless there are enough cases or reasons to keep boosting yearly. Then showing proof of vaccination from several years past is going to mean what? Currently in our area free testing is available. If everyone has to pay to test, then that is going to impact the industry. For example, look at the delay for the passport requirements... Adding cost to cruising, affects the bottomline. Just because something is a "fact" or requirement today doesn't mean a change either way will not happen. Time will tell. In general, one always had to be flexible when traveling and still do. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pe4all Posted April 4, 2022 #112 Share Posted April 4, 2022 I wonder if the cruise lines are giving boosters to their workers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asalligo Posted April 4, 2022 #113 Share Posted April 4, 2022 My guess is january 2023 we see the end of vaccine requirements in cruising. The cruise companies want to end them as much as the unvaccinated so they can increase that revenue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ontheweb Posted April 4, 2022 #114 Share Posted April 4, 2022 2 hours ago, jabberjaw070596 said: I booked a back to back for February 2023 and my long time PVP told me she has no idea what will happen with testing and Covid requirements and at this point that is a much better answer because I believe no one knows what will happen in the future So true, and it is a better answer than making something up when you really have no idea what the answer should be. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hard_eight Posted April 4, 2022 #115 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Keep the mandates, I'll keep my money. Thanks. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keels81 Posted April 4, 2022 #116 Share Posted April 4, 2022 The Vista has 4069 people on it this sailing and the Breeze was at capacity three weeks ago ... with relative few deals other than slight casino discounts. So tell me where this "missing revenue from the unvaccinated" is? The biggest deal was lifting the masking restrictions and the bubble requirements for kids. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n6uqqq Posted April 4, 2022 #117 Share Posted April 4, 2022 17 hours ago, Purvis1231 said: I doubt that will happen unless we have another deadly wave. Thankfully, right now the virus has lost most of its bit. I think testing will end soon but vaccinations will continue through this year. I think it is exactly opposite of this which will happen. The fact is that both vaccinated and unvaccinated can be infected and spread covid so there really is no difference there. I could see the testing part sticking around for a while because it is the only thing that remotely makes sense for now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ontheweb Posted April 4, 2022 #118 Share Posted April 4, 2022 11 minutes ago, n6uqqq said: I think it is exactly opposite of this which will happen. The fact is that both vaccinated and unvaccinated can be infected and spread covid so there really is no difference there. I could see the testing part sticking around for a while because it is the only thing that remotely makes sense for now. However, there is a difference between the unvaccinated and the vaccinated. The unvaccinated are much more likely to need hospitalization or even die. The ships do not have the medical capacity to handle extremely sick passengers. Those who are not too sick can be quarantined. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmc alabama Posted April 4, 2022 #119 Share Posted April 4, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, ontheweb said: However, there is a difference between the unvaccinated and the vaccinated. The unvaccinated are much more likely to need hospitalization or even die. The ships do not have the medical capacity to handle extremely sick passengers. Those who are not too sick can be quarantined. To nuance this, I'd say "the unvaccinated that have not had prior infection"... https://www.statnews.com/2022/01/19/those-who-recovered-from-covid-19-were-less-likely-than-vaccinated-to-get-infected-during-delta-wave/ Edited April 4, 2022 by bmc alabama 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hapytobehr Posted April 4, 2022 #120 Share Posted April 4, 2022 6 hours ago, pe4all said: I wonder if the cruise lines are giving boosters to their workers? I believe they are. I was on MSC in March and the workers in the Casino were getting their booster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purvis1231 Posted April 4, 2022 #121 Share Posted April 4, 2022 6 hours ago, n6uqqq said: I think it is exactly opposite of this which will happen. The fact is that both vaccinated and unvaccinated can be infected and spread covid so there really is no difference there. I could see the testing part sticking around for a while because it is the only thing that remotely makes sense for now. That makes sense but if they continue testing I hope they will allow us to use the at home test at the port and work out someway they could be monitored. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted April 5, 2022 #122 Share Posted April 5, 2022 6 hours ago, n6uqqq said: I think it is exactly opposite of this which will happen. The fact is that both vaccinated and unvaccinated can be infected and spread covid so there really is no difference there. I could see the testing part sticking around for a while because it is the only thing that remotely makes sense for now. Other differences are the rate at which each group can be infected, the viral loads once infected, the rate at which they can spead to other people. Duration of illness, etc. etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricane0226 Posted April 5, 2022 #123 Share Posted April 5, 2022 12 hours ago, happy cruzer said: Time is key on the vaccination proof. At some point each jab declines in effectiveness. So unless there are enough cases or reasons to keep boosting yearly. Then showing proof of vaccination from several years past is going to mean what? Currently in our area free testing is available. If everyone has to pay to test, then that is going to impact the industry. For example, look at the delay for the passport requirements... Adding cost to cruising, affects the bottomline. Just because something is a "fact" or requirement today doesn't mean a change either way will not happen. Time will tell. In general, one always had to be flexible when traveling and still do. CVS are stopping free testing for travel, the others will probably follow suit after the government money runs out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lane Hog Posted April 5, 2022 #124 Share Posted April 5, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, keels81 said: So tell me where this "missing revenue from the unvaccinated" is? The biggest deal was lifting the masking restrictions and the bubble requirements for kids. Don't mistake full ships as profitable... if you're filling up on $40-60 per day rates, I can't imagine they're revenue positive or even covering costs. I'd expect daily rates to be back up to $75-100 before I'd say revenue was back where they want it. 1 hour ago, hurricane0226 said: CVS are stopping free testing for travel, the others will probably follow suit after the government money runs out. True that the number of rapid testing locations has gone down, but I'm pretty certain it's still free for those who answer the questionnaire appropriately e.g. they're are afraid they've been in close contact. I suspect the demand for testing is down mainly because so many people got hit with Omicron that they no longer are as afraid or find a need to keep testing at every sniffle or cough. Plus all those nifty free at-home tests finally started showing up.... Edited April 5, 2022 by Lane Hog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree.critter Posted April 5, 2022 #125 Share Posted April 5, 2022 Carnival just released that it had the highest booking rate ever for the last week. Doesn’t look like they are having any problems filling the ships with vaccinated guests. It may be a long wait for them to change protocols. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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