Shellbelle28 Posted September 30, 2022 #1 Share Posted September 30, 2022 We're at about 1/3 capacity this sailing (9/29). It's very weird! The staff are almost over-attentive because there are so few passengers. Don't turn your back on your plate at a table, it'll be whisked away. I know, sounds impossible, but its true. No elevator waiting, never see anybody in the hallways. The Effy, Cruise Next and Spa folks are like vultures, LOL. Had dessert for lunch. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlGoodShips Posted September 30, 2022 #2 Share Posted September 30, 2022 I would love a cruise with so few passengers. Talk about being pampered....Yay🤗 Sounds great. Enjoy. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefMateJRK Posted September 30, 2022 #3 Share Posted September 30, 2022 41 minutes ago, Shellbelle28 said: We're at about 1/3 capacity this sailing (9/29). It's very weird! The staff are almost over-attentive because there are so few passengers. Enjoy yourselves! It sounds like Haven service for steerage prices! (disclaimer: I have no idea what Haven service is like) 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishguy1970 Posted September 30, 2022 #4 Share Posted September 30, 2022 how wonderful. I hope our cruise in November is not at capacity 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotownVoice Posted September 30, 2022 #5 Share Posted September 30, 2022 This is the transatlantic to canaries, yeah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BermudaBound2014 Posted September 30, 2022 #6 Share Posted September 30, 2022 1 hour ago, ChiefMateJRK said: Enjoy yourselves! It sounds like Haven service for steerage prices! (disclaimer: I have no idea what Haven service is like) I love you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BermudaBound2014 Posted September 30, 2022 #7 Share Posted September 30, 2022 (edited) Yet this forum is filled with cheerleaders insisting that NCL ships are sailing near capacity 🙂 Edited September 30, 2022 by BermudaBound2014 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronRobi Posted September 30, 2022 #8 Share Posted September 30, 2022 I can only pray for that low capacity for our upcoming sailing in November! That'd be amazing!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellbelle28 Posted October 1, 2022 Author #9 Share Posted October 1, 2022 It's end of season Alaska on a not the most popular ship. Their run down to LA after this is full. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BirdTravels Posted October 1, 2022 #10 Share Posted October 1, 2022 1 hour ago, BermudaBound2014 said: Yet this forum is filled with cheerleaders insisting that NCL ships are sailing near capacity 🙂 Depends on the cruise. We sailed with almost 4000 on the Encore in April. Last month, we were closer to 70% on the Breakaway to the Western Caribbean, but that was a one-off short cruise, the week before and week after were closer to capacity (according to the General Manager). Our upcoming Prima cruise is sold out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lakesregion Posted October 1, 2022 #11 Share Posted October 1, 2022 For those that keep praying for low capacity better chalk up those cruises as some of the last they will see from the cruise line as it sinks under the sea of red ink. How long do you think your business or employer will operate at 25 -60% of capacity with a negative cash flow and remain in business? Guess economics has ceased to be a subject in any level of education in this country. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukesatoz Posted October 1, 2022 #12 Share Posted October 1, 2022 So true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare graphicguy Posted October 1, 2022 #13 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Yeah….those “last of the season” cruises are fun. Yours is on one of the oldest ships in the fleet (over 20 years old), sailing an itinerary that’s dicey weather wise (Fall in Alaska). I like those cruises. But, when they go bad, they go really bad (see FL and Caribbean cruises during Hurricane season). But, good deals can be had on those. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BermudaBound2014 Posted October 1, 2022 #14 Share Posted October 1, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, BirdTravels said: Depends on the cruise. We sailed with almost 4000 on the Encore in April. Last month, we were closer to 70% on the Breakaway to the Western Caribbean, but that was a one-off short cruise, the week before and week after were closer to capacity (according to the General Manager). Our upcoming Prima cruise is sold out. Of course, the popular sailings, on popular ships, sailing during popular times have had very good occupancy. NCLH will release their Q3 first week of November. Since CCL only managed 85% during their Q2 and NCL has posted number below CCL since the resumption, I suspect the average occupancy will be no where near 100% as some of the cheerleaders keep suggesting. BUT........ when NCLH releases Q4 it's likely those who keep insisting fall cruises are sailing near capacity will eat some major crow ;-). Edited October 1, 2022 by BermudaBound2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmoopie17 Posted October 1, 2022 #15 Share Posted October 1, 2022 16 hours ago, spanishguy1970 said: how wonderful. I hope our cruise in November is not at capacity 🙂 I think our Nov 1st Escape TA will be at less than 50%. Transatlantics always have fewer passengers, since not a lot of people can take off for three weeks at a time...students, people working, etc. I have my fingers crossed (which makes typing even more difficult)... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishguy1970 Posted October 1, 2022 #16 Share Posted October 1, 2022 1 minute ago, schmoopie17 said: I think our Nov 1st Escape TA will be at less than 50%. Transatlantics always have fewer passengers, since not a lot of people can take off for three weeks at a time...students, people working, etc. I have my fingers crossed (which makes typing even more difficult)... keeping fingers crossed too. 31 days to go :-).. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheycallmeDrew Posted October 1, 2022 #17 Share Posted October 1, 2022 I don’t understand all these cheerleaders for cruise lines going out of business in a cruise forum. Let’s say ncl and carnival and royal go out of business. What do you think that will do to availability and prices? If anything you should be hoping all the lines do well as competition breeds innovation, more options and better prices. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAPilot Posted October 1, 2022 #18 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Yeah no one is itching to go to Alaska this time of year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy planning mom Posted October 1, 2022 #19 Share Posted October 1, 2022 1 hour ago, JustAPilot said: Yeah no one is itching to go to Alaska this time of year. Why does NCL still offer sailings in October when most others have left? Is it really profitable for them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefMateJRK Posted October 1, 2022 #20 Share Posted October 1, 2022 1 hour ago, JustAPilot said: Yeah no one is itching to go to Alaska this time of year. I'm itching to go to AK whenever a cruise ship is sailing. Warm weather and sunshine are highly overrated. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaCruiseBug Posted October 1, 2022 #21 Share Posted October 1, 2022 I did a 5 day sailing on the Sun out of Port Canaveral pre-covid and it was the only cruise I was actually happy to be done with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mscdivina2016 Posted October 1, 2022 #22 Share Posted October 1, 2022 22 hours ago, FlGoodShips said: I would love a cruise with so few passengers. Talk about being pampered....Yay🤗 Sounds great. Enjoy. Not always that good. Last year on MSC we had 444 (ship holds 4000+) on board. Many things were shut down or closed early. Specialty restaurant's closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellbelle28 Posted October 1, 2022 Author #23 Share Posted October 1, 2022 2 hours ago, JustAPilot said: Yeah no one is itching to go to Alaska this time of year. Conditions are horrible! 9 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKstages Posted October 1, 2022 #24 Share Posted October 1, 2022 19 hours ago, Lakesregion said: How long do you think your business or employer will operate at 25 -60% of capacity with a negative cash flow and remain in business? i don't know... thirty years, give or take a year or so? there are may seasonal businesses that operate this way. it is not uncommon for businesses in resort towns to book 80% or 90% of their revenue in just four months. they operate at a loss in any given month beyond that, but still turn a profit on an annual basis. many successful broadway shows run for years on the 100%+ revenue from sold out weeks and months during the summer and holiday seasons and school breaks; they coast by with sub par revenue and even deep losses during the lean weeks and months. "phantom of the opera" has done exactly that for 30 years and only just now announced it was closing (after a run of 35 years)...because the weeks with losses became more frequent and consistent than the weeks the show played at a profit. it can't male money on broadway anymore because the profits from the good weeks no longer exceed the vast losses from the bad weeks. without a doubt, NCL is losing money right now. but when they make money, they make money hand over fist. and so the end of this story is still to be written. if they have no contingency, and they can't monetize their assets and market their product appropriately and adapt to the new normal, and they can't get by during the lean times with the bright shiny promise of tomorrow's revenues, then, yes, they will absolutely suffer and die a miserable death. but that does not yet appear to be happening. "economics" is more than just red and black ink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefMateJRK Posted October 1, 2022 #25 Share Posted October 1, 2022 24 minutes ago, UKstages said: if they have no contingency, and they can't monetize their assets and market their product appropriately and adapt to the new normal, and they can't get by during the lean times with the bright shiny promise of tomorrow's revenues, then, yes, they will absolutely suffer and die a miserable death. but that does not yet appear to be happening. Yep. The "new normal" is rapidly approaching the "old normal" (thankfully). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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