Gratuities to be added to sea pass account daily.

[postmeome]

I posted this earlier about auto tipping and used cabin attendants as an example.

 

Currently the suggested gratuity for Housekeeping Staff for non-suite guests is $5.00pp per day.

 

Out of the $5.00pp per day that the cabin attendant receives he gets 85% of that amount. 15% goes to other Housekeeping Staff. Those that help clean rooms on turnaround day or any other time during a 7 day cruise.

 

If the cabin attendant services 10 cabins with 2 people occupying each cabin and they all prepay for a 7 day cruise he would get $595 a week which is their salary and can be paid weekly or bi-weekly. His wage from RCI is $50 per month. Any additional gratuity that is received is theirs to keep.

 

Now let's reverse the picture and say that the 10 above mentioned cabins all payed in cash. RCI "assumes" that everyone is going to pay the "recommended" amount to the cabin attendant.

 

If they did he would receive $700 for the week and out of that amount he must give back 15% or $105 to cover the "other" housekeeping staff leaving him with $595. Anything over and above the recommended amount is his/hers to keep.

 

If he doesn't receive a total of $700 for the week, he still must give back 15% and thatt money would comes out of the "over and above" that he might have received or might not have received.

 

For waiters, assistant waiters and head waiters in MTD, if one signs up for MTD, prepays their gratuities, but never shows up, those gratuities are channeled to the WJ and Specialty Restaurant Servers. So their weekly/bi-weekly salary can fluctuate also.

are you saying royal caribean only pays a cabin attendent $50 a month ?

[TheMiz]

lol

 

 

 

Cabin stewards usually have 15 cabins and need to hire at their OWN expense those who work below to get their cabins cleaned within 3 hours.

 

 

 

What are the hours ?

[poncho1973]

OK whatever.

 

The ultimate in comebacks. You should trademark that.

 

 

In fairness, your numbers seem really off. I've looked into this a little and I've watched a few of the YouTube videos by the disgruntled employees AND I've watched the television undercover show.

 

$50 a month isn't supported by anything I've seen.

 

I don't think anyone working on a ship (besides a few, select officers, big name guest entertainers) is getting wealthy. I don't think the people that work at my local Steak N' Shake, Target, Taco Bell, Walgreens, or Hilton are getting wealthy either.

 

Living 24/7 on a ship isn't a job for most people. It is a job that many people in poorer counties will take to improve their lives and the lives of their families. I don't think it is an easy job. I want those people to know that I appreciate their service, but they took the job and as long as people take those jobs they will be paid what they are paid.

 

I have a friend that worked at a ranch in South Africa for what amounts to a few US dollars a day. She did it to make a living. She went to college here, took a fast food job in the US and lived with 6 or 7 roommates, so that she could send money back to her family. It was more than she could make in SA. You do what you have to do to provide for your family.

 

That said... $50 a month? I'd love to see where you got that number.

[seashells]

What are the hours ?

 

 

All passengers have to off the ship by 11:00 a.m.

 

This is mainly for large ships.

 

An all clear is reported to the hotel manager by the count as you leave the ship and your sea pass card is counted.

 

The sooner the cabin attendant can get into your cabin the quicker it is cleaned and ready for the new passengers.

 

A special person is sent to your cabin IF you have a spa or tub where they treat it with chemicals, fill the tub and run it for 10 minutes.

 

They NEED the laundry most of all!!!

 

The ship is only empty of all passengers for about an hour.

 

Get up early 5:00 a.m. the last morning/night and watch as the ships are all lined up (weekend) behind one another to get the pilot captain and parked at the dock.

 

The nightime crew cleans the dining rooms and every deck, hose walls, clean pools, set up the passageways, block off certain areas, load your luggage onto carts already on board.

[Ocean Boy]

lol

 

Only prepaid or tips added to your account are RE-DISTRIBUTED.

 

All cash given in hand to the person is kept by that person.

 

Period

 

That is different from what was posted before. Now I am on the fence again. I still prefer handing my money to the folks that took care of me.

[postmeome]

All passengers have to off the ship by 11:00 a.m.

 

This is mainly for large ships.

 

An all clear is reported to the hotel manager by the count as you leave the ship and your sea pass card is counted.

 

The sooner the cabin attendant can get into your cabin the quicker it is cleaned and ready for the new passengers.

 

A special person is sent to your cabin IF you have a spa or tub where they treat it with chemicals, fill the tub and run it for 10 minutes.

 

They NEED the laundry most of all!!!

 

The ship is only empty of all passengers for about an hour.

 

Get up early 5:00 a.m. the last morning/night and watch as the ships are all lined up (weekend) behind one another to get the pilot captain and parked at the dock.

 

The nightime crew cleans the dining rooms and every deck, hose walls, clean pools, set up the passageways, block off certain areas, load your luggage onto carts already on board.

clear as mud

[TheMiz]

All passengers have to off the ship by 11:00 a.m.

 

This is mainly for large ships.

 

An all clear is reported to the hotel manager by the count as you leave the ship and your sea pass card is counted.

 

The sooner the cabin attendant can get into your cabin the quicker it is cleaned and ready for the new passengers.

 

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I normally board around 11am, in rooms by 1pm.

 

I was wondering the time range on a daily basis.

[akcruz]

All passengers have to off the ship by 11:00 a.m.

 

This is mainly for large ships.

 

An all clear is reported to the hotel manager by the count as you leave the ship and your sea pass card is counted.

 

The sooner the cabin attendant can get into your cabin the quicker it is cleaned and ready for the new passengers.

 

A special person is sent to your cabin IF you have a spa or tub where they treat it with chemicals, fill the tub and run it for 10 minutes.

 

They NEED the laundry most of all!!!

 

The ship is only empty of all passengers for about an hour.

 

Get up early 5:00 a.m. the last morning/night and watch as the ships are all lined up (weekend) behind one another to get the pilot captain and parked at the dock.

 

The nightime crew cleans the dining rooms and every deck, hose walls, clean pools, set up the passageways, block off certain areas, load your luggage onto carts already on board.

 

Most ships I have been on we had to be out of cabins between 8 and 9 and the stewards are already starting to clean up the cabins at that point. It also seems like they like to have most of the ships emptied out by 10 or 10:30 at the latest.

 

I have also been able to get on the ship by a little after 11 most sailings, but could not get into cabins until after 1. I thought that's why they closed off the cabins hallways??

 

So if you say everyone is out by 9 and they have until 1, that's at least 4 hours and as I said most of the stewards I've seen are starting rooms between 7 and 8 making it even more time which is still not a lot but its definitely more than 3.

[cruisenfever]

lol

 

Only prepaid or tips added to your account are RE-DISTRIBUTED.

 

All cash given in hand to the person is kept by that person.

 

On turnaround days all personal except for those who have port passes for 1/2 day off ship WORK at several jobs.

 

Cabin stewards usually have 15 cabins and need to hire at their OWN expense those who work below to get their cabins cleaned within 3 hours.

 

People who work at the concession areas of the ship such as the shops, photo, spa, dive, casino, entertainment work and are paid by the agency who hires them.

 

The ship takes a CUT.

 

BJs, Sams Club, Costco have free passes to purchase goods and they are always in the electronic department and then the crew bus takes them on a loop to Walmart, the Mall where they receive a 10% discount.

 

Period

You seem to know more because of what your friends have told you. If this is what you want to believe..........amen.

[cruisenfever]

The ultimate in comebacks. You should trademark that.

 

 

In fairness, your numbers seem really off. I've looked into this a little and I've watched a few of the YouTube videos by the disgruntled employees AND I've watched the television undercover show.

 

$50 a month isn't supported by anything I've seen.

 

I don't think anyone working on a ship (besides a few, select officers, big name guest entertainers) is getting wealthy. I don't think the people that work at my local Steak N' Shake, Target, Taco Bell, Walgreens, or Hilton are getting wealthy either.

 

Living 24/7 on a ship isn't a job for most people. It is a job that many people in poorer counties will take to improve their lives and the lives of their families. I don't think it is an easy job. I want those people to know that I appreciate their service, but they took the job and as long as people take those jobs they will be paid what they are paid.

 

I have a friend that worked at a ranch in South Africa for what amounts to a few US dollars a day. She did it to make a living. She went to college here, took a fast food job in the US and lived with 6 or 7 roommates, so that she could send money back to her family. It was more than she could make in SA. You do what you have to do to provide for your family.

 

That said... $50 a month? I'd love to see where you got that number.

I'm not the first to post that amount and I won't be the last. :)

[seashells]

The cabin attendant starts his/her job at 7:00 a.m.

 

They ready their cart with supplies, get clean towels, sheets from areas of the ship, and start in the cabins around 9:00.

 

The nicest thing you can do is to put that little card in the slot to clean the cabin as they then know, you are OUT.

 

You will see them working until about 2:00/3:00 p.m and restart at 6:00 p.m. for evening service, working until about 10:00 p.m.

 

Sometimes the disappear to take care of overflow trash left in cabins.

 

It would be nice if people picked up after themselves as I have seen cabins that looked like pigpens.

 

I have a short conversation with my cabin attendant telling them what I would like during my cruise and hand them a $10.

 

Then only, because it's me, I desire ice 2 times a day and leave a $5 every day on the small cooler.

 

I have cruised all over the world, made requests of my cabin steward and they have ALL been very helpful to the point of cleaning shells brought back on the ship and almost anything I ask of them, extra towels.

 

I was sick on one cruise and my cabin attendant brought me soup and tea WITHOUT asking.

 

We leave our cabin neat and picked up and they appreciate it....GET YOUR STUFF OUT of the WAY!

 

The one thing I am, is a heavy tipper for my cabin steward.

 

So I tip them EVERY single day for some small thing...If I am away in port I leave a note if I want something.

 

RCL went to an every other day towel animal on our last cruise and I requested one EVERY night and received it for a child in another cabin.

[TheMiz]

The cabin attendant starts his/her job at 7:00 a.m.

 

They ready their cart with supplies, get clean towels, sheets from areas of the ship, and start in the cabins around 9:00.

 

 

You will see them working until about 2:00/3:00 p.m and restart at 6:00 p.m. for evening service, working until about 10:00 p.m.

 

 

I have cruised all over the world, made requests of my cabin steward and they have ALL been very helpful to the point of cleaning shells brought back on the ship and almost anything I ask of them, extra towels.

 

 

RCL went to an every other day towel animal on our last cruise and I requested one EVERY night and received it for a child in another cabin.

 

 

Just got off the Enchantment we had towel animal all 12 nights and some nights we had more than one.

 

 

You brought shells back on the ship and they allowed it?

On our last 2 cruises shells were taken away from people bring them on

People clean them and plug up the plumbing , so we were told.

 

 

I don't think our cabin was ever done before 1pm mostly after 2pm.

[seashells]

Most ships I have been on we had to be out of cabins between 8 and 9 and the stewards are already starting to clean up the cabins at that point. It also seems like they like to have most of the ships emptied out by 10 or 10:30 at the latest.

 

I have also been able to get on the ship by a little after 11 most sailings, but could not get into cabins until after 1. I thought that's why they closed off the cabins hallways??

 

So if you say everyone is out by 9 and they have until 1, that's at least 4 hours and as I said most of the stewards I've seen are starting rooms between 7 and 8 making it even more time which is still not a lot but its definitely more than 3.

 

Because I live in a port city I am last to leave and my call is at 10:55 a.m.

 

Those who are flying out leave earlier.

 

All those duvet covers have to be changed, every cabin vacuumed and every single thing is sterilized by them, right down to the TV clicker.

 

They are terrified of the Norwalk virus.

 

Disney World and some ships are testing a new product called MonoFoil.

[steveru621]

Just got off the Enchantment we had towel animal all 12 nights and some nights we had more than one.

 

You brought shells back on the ship and they allowed it?

On our last 2 cruises shells were taken away from people bring them on

People clean them and plug up the plumbing , so we were told.

 

I don't think our cabin was ever done before 1pm mostly after 2pm.

 

Thanks for sharing, never knew that shells were contraband? We always have at least one from every beach excursion. Now I feel like a rebel.

 

I take your point to be there is no strict script for cabin attendants. I agree, but if any of our cabin attendants didn't straighten up until 2pm we would have words.:)

[TheMiz]

Thanks for sharing, never knew that shells were contraband? We always have at least one from every beach excursion. Now I feel like a rebel.

 

 

I only seen people stopped that had shells visible.

[Aquahound]

Thanks for sharing, never knew that shells were contraband? We always have at least one from every beach excursion. Now I feel like a rebel.

 

I don't know about that one. I never heard of them not allowing shells. I just found a really nice shell at Coco Cay and they had no problem with me taking it. In fact, they all looked at it and were impressed.

 

Besides, more sand would wash out of my shorts than the shell anyways.

[wwcruisers]

You seem to know more because of what your friends have told you. If this is what you want to believe..........amen.

 

Just my $.02 here -- Patti & Jim (Cruisenfever) have been members of this forum for a LONG time, and have been (IMHO) an unbelievably accurate source of information about RC ships (especially Radiance Class). They always quote/cite their sources, and their advice is rarely off the mark. So, if it comes down to going with Patti's opinion, versus someone who doesn't cite the source of their info -- well, that one's a "no-brainer" for me! :cool:

[Me 2]

:eek::eek: Really????? May I ask where you got your figure from?

 

Earlier today I suggested a means to obtain substantiation in favour of seashells figure. For the sake of comparison, I would appreciate you citing a publicised source of information confirming the amount of $50 per month as stated by you.

[bigeagle12]

Earlier today I suggested a means to obtain substantiation in favour of seashells figure. For the sake of comparison, I would appreciate you citing a publicised source of information confirming the amount of $50 per month as stated by you.

 

The salaries you see doing a google search are "potential" or "average" salaries that are base pay plus tips.

[critterchick]

I'm not the first to post that amount and I won't be the last. :)

 

No, you won't. I have heard the same $50/month from several housekeeping and waitstaff and it's been verified by an onboard officer who was in a position to know. Call my a cynic, but I couldn't believe it the first time I heard it. I know it's not my business, and I didn't ask, but once the information was volunteered, I had to check it out.

 

Earlier today I suggested a means to obtain substantiation in favour of seashells figure. For the sake of comparison, I would appreciate you citing a publicised source of information confirming the amount of $50 per month as stated by you.

 

I don't think that such information is publicized, so it's a matter of whose onboard "friends" one wishes to believe.:)

[Bobbye]

Earlier today I suggested a means to obtain substantiation in favour of seashells figure. For the sake of comparison, I would appreciate you citing a publicised source of information confirming the amount of $50 per month as stated by you.

 

I just searched and every link I found gave the approximate wages that include tipping. I've heard from those working on board that the base wage for a waiter was $50 per month and room and board.

[The_Big_M]

Fact RCI is NOT, repeat NOT an American company. It is Norwegian. It was founded by Norwegians hence the title "Royal" as in the "Royal Norwegian". Yes Norway has a Royal Family, the US does not. It was based in the Caribbean selling to US passengers with the money going to Norway. Royal Caribbean currently has stoks on the Oslo Stock Exchange and New York Stock Exchange.

 

If you want to be technical,RCI is owned by RCCL, RCCL is incorporated in Liberia, headquartered in Miami and is a publically traded company.

 

Exactly. Fact is RCI is not a Norwegian company.

 

As for the suggestion about tipping, if they went the Norwegian model and paid all staff $30 an hour, plus maternity benefits, education benefits and all the rest, RCL fares would be above lines like Crystal and Seabourne in cost. I wonder who on this thread would be sailing with them then!

 

More likely they'd be complaining about how expensive fares are.

[bigeck]

Earlier today I suggested a means to obtain substantiation in favour of seashells figure. For the sake of comparison, I would appreciate you citing a publicised source of information confirming the amount of $50 per month as stated by you.

 

I suggest you apply for a job then come back and tell us if it is such a big deal.

It is nobody's buisiness what these people earn. This is all about Rci protecting them and making sure they get the tips they deserve.

 

It looks more like the $50 as its mainly workers from Indonesia and Philippines who have these jobs. With the unemployment in Us and Uk I think they would have these jobs.

And that's my opinion....

[cruzincurt]

They're back.:rolleyes:

 

n. pl. bus·y·bod·ies A person who meddles or pries into the affairs of others.

[Ocean Boy]

They're back.:rolleyes:

 

n. pl. bus·y·bod·ies A person who meddles or pries into the affairs of others.

 

They never left.;)