cruz chic Posted November 7, 2015 #2726 Share Posted November 7, 2015 so my partners smoke won't affect our neighbors and we have never had a complaint. I'm guessing most people would not say anything. No one wants to be subjected to the possible anger of a smoker that is within their right to be smoking there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestyling Posted November 7, 2015 #2727 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Obviously very nice neighbours and how wonderful for you that things worked out so well. It was VERY nice of them. I would still never say anything directly to a neighbour as its HALs policy. I do hope I am as lucky on our cruise in a couple weeks. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tom-n-Cheryl Posted November 7, 2015 #2728 Share Posted November 7, 2015 I'm guessing most people would not say anything. No one wants to be subjected to the possible anger of a smoker that is within their right to be smoking there. Without a doubt if it's the policy of that line. But I'd say fair % of our recent cruises were on balconies where there was a no smoking policy. Even then, my lips are zipped. I've had a couple sailings where I was considering calling guest services and "ratting them out", but that's a little cold (either that, or it wasn't bad enough)! Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseing marly Posted November 8, 2015 #2729 Share Posted November 8, 2015 I've never complained to smokers who've caused us issues on our balcony. So I'm guessing they think all is well too. I don't like to start problems with my neighbors, or really anyone for that matter. Not saying that your partner has actually negatively impacted anyone - but it's likely you wouldn't know. Tom Totally agree with you if someone is smoking a couple a day their is not a reason to complain . If they chain smoke on the balcony it would not its more likely it would not make any difference ! HAL is the only one that can make it go away complaining to a chain smoking stranger will not ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popsaw Posted November 8, 2015 #2730 Share Posted November 8, 2015 I've never complained to smokers who've caused us issues on our balcony. So I'm guessing they think all is well too. I don't like to start problems with my neighbors, or really anyone for that matter. Not saying that your partner has actually negatively impacted anyone - but it's likely you wouldn't know. Tom You are a more passive person than I am. I don't like smoke in my personal space any more than I appreciate anybody urinating in the sea near me when I am swimming. Regardless of the legality, it is inconsiderate. The difference though between smoke and urinating is that smoke is harmful and immediately so in the case of asthmatics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tom-n-Cheryl Posted November 8, 2015 #2731 Share Posted November 8, 2015 You are a more passive person than I am. I don't like smoke in my personal space any more than I appreciate anybody urinating in the sea near me when I am swimming. Regardless of the legality, it is inconsiderate. The difference though between smoke and urinating is that smoke is harmful and immediately so in the case of asthmatics. Cheryl is an ex-smoker. She quit over 28 years ago as soon as she learned she was pregnant. She's less tolerant of smoke than I am (I grew up with my mother smoking), but I've heard that's often the case with ex-smokers! Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouremco Posted November 8, 2015 #2732 Share Posted November 8, 2015 (edited) You are a more passive person than I am. I don't like smoke in my personal space any more than I appreciate anybody urinating in the sea near me when I am swimming. Regardless of the legality, it is inconsiderate. The difference though between smoke and urinating is that smoke is harmful and immediately so in the case of asthmatics. I've never thought about it in quite those terms, but it's an excellent analogy. :eek: Edited November 8, 2015 by Fouremco Spelling corrections Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogun Posted November 8, 2015 #2733 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Hi All Can some one explain smoking on HAL to me, I have no problem with folks smoking, so long as I do not smell a single whiff of smoke. yours Shogun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruz chic Posted November 8, 2015 #2734 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Hi All Can some one explain smoking on HAL to me, I have no problem with folks smoking, so long as I do not smell a single whiff of smoke. yours Shogun Good luck with that. You may be lucky and not have a smokers next to you if you have a balcony or you many not. On the eurodam smokers may smoke in the casino if playing or at the sea view bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim22361 Posted November 10, 2015 #2735 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Is there a cigar lounge on Koningsdam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted November 10, 2015 #2736 Share Posted November 10, 2015 The ship is currently under construction so none of us have yet sailed her. You could check the deck plans and see if you can find a cigar lounge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakrewser Posted November 10, 2015 #2737 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I rather doubt it as the cigar lounges were removed from the other ships. They never had very much activity, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxmantoo Posted November 10, 2015 #2738 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I certainly hope not :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted November 10, 2015 #2739 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Since the Cigar lounges have been removed from the ships that did have them, sometimes there will be an evening when there is Cigar Smoking under the stars at the aft pool late in the evening. But I haven't even seen that listed anymore in the On Location programs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarpeian Rock Posted November 10, 2015 #2740 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I certainly hope not :eek: If there were one, presumably no one would be forcing you to go. In my experience on Princess the cigar lounge is quite atmospherically isolated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakrewser Posted November 10, 2015 #2741 Share Posted November 10, 2015 If there were one, presumably no one would be forcing you to go. In my experience on Princess the cigar lounge is quite atmospherically isolated. They were on HAL also. Humidors were at the back, starboard side of the Crow's Nest (furthest from the bar, dance floor and viewing windows) with the smoking area just outside on deck - very isolated from the normal flow of foot traffic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxmantoo Posted November 10, 2015 #2742 Share Posted November 10, 2015 If there were one, presumably no one would be forcing you to go. In my experience on Princess the cigar lounge is quite atmospherically isolated. The lounges themselves may be atmospherically isolated, but have you ever had the "pleasure" of sitting in the dining room, show lounge or piano bar next to someone who just walked out of one having smoked a cigar :confused: :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheWASide Posted November 10, 2015 #2743 Share Posted November 10, 2015 There is not a space that has been designated as such. There are areas the company has not yet talked about, but none seem like they would be a space for a cigar lounge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare erewhon Posted November 11, 2015 #2744 Share Posted November 11, 2015 On embarkation day,(October 25th) a letter from Captain Draper in the stateroom stated "Thank you for sailing with us aboard ms Noordam. We'd like to make you aware of a new Lounge on the ship that is available for guests. The Oak Room is a Smoking and Cigar Lounge on deck 10 forward. While it is open 24 hours a day, full beverage service is available from 12 noon until 10pm daily. The Oak Room also has an enhanced ventilation system, comfortable leather seating and a large screen TV with a variety of channels, as well as wide array of cigars and cigarettes available for purchase. For guests with verandah staterooms who smoke cigarettes, cigars or e-cigarettes, we encourage you to utilize the Oak Room for your smoking needs rather than your verandah. Smoking is also permitted outside on the starboard side of Deck 9, adjacent to the Sea View Bar. There will also be a designated area for smoking in the Casino on certain nights of the cruise--this will be highlighted in the Today on Location program. Thank you for choosing Holland America for your cruise vacation and we look forward to welcoming guests to the Oak Room throughout the voyage." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzie68 Posted November 11, 2015 #2745 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Hmm I think HAL may have been finally listening.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare erewhon Posted November 11, 2015 #2746 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Hmm I think HAL may have been finally listening.... Hope so. While walking, counted 12 "No Smoking" signs at intervals around the Promenade deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzie68 Posted November 11, 2015 #2747 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Well, this is really interesting.... from erewhon's Noordam Oak Room thread: (letter to the pax): We'd like to make you aware of a new Lounge on the ship that is available for guests. The Oak Room is a Smoking and Cigar Lounge on deck 10 forward. While it is open 24 hours a day, full beverage service is available from 12 noon until 10pm daily. The Oak Room also has an enhanced ventilation system, comfortable leather seating and a large screen TV with a variety of channels, as well as wide array of cigars and cigarettes available for purchase. For guests with verandah staterooms who smoke cigarettes, cigars or e-cigarettes, we encourage you to utilize the Oak Room for your smoking needs rather than your verandah. Smoking is also permitted outside on the starboard side of Deck 9, adjacent to the Sea View Bar. There will also be a designated area for smoking in the Casino on certain nights of the cruise--this will be highlighted in the Today on Location program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catl331 Posted November 11, 2015 #2748 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Hmm I think HAL may have been finally listening.... The Oak Room has been on the Noordam ever since it was launched. The Noordam is the only Vista ship that has not had it removed. Yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratheden Posted November 11, 2015 #2749 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Do hope it stays there and they think about returning them to the other Vista ships. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted November 11, 2015 #2750 Share Posted November 11, 2015 The Oak Room has always been there since the ship was built. It even had a door leading out to the deck. But when the new cabins and Retreat were added, it was shut down. In fact when we sailed on her in the fall of 2014, it was kept locked. The only time it was open was for the Friends of Bill W and a couple of other times for very small parties. Did they keep the artificial fireplace? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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