mikevet Posted November 28, 2014 #1 Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) What's rccl policy for bringing small dogs on board? Anyone see that before on allure? Who is allowed to bring a pet? Sent from my iPhone using Forums Edited November 28, 2014 by mikevet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmrothermel Posted November 28, 2014 #2 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Certified service dogs are allowed. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crilski Posted November 28, 2014 #3 Share Posted November 28, 2014 http://servicedogcentral.org/content/fake-service-dog-credentials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikevet Posted November 28, 2014 Author #4 Share Posted November 28, 2014 On allure right now and there is a lady who has been carrying around a Pomeranian the whole cruise. She was squeezing through the crowded mdr last night with dog. She isn't blind or this is one damn good seeing eye dog! :) Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merion_Mom Posted November 28, 2014 #5 Share Posted November 28, 2014 No pets. Only service animals. And there are limitations on what RC can do to make a person prove the "service animal" aspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dacsmom Posted November 28, 2014 #6 Share Posted November 28, 2014 On allure right now and there is a lady who has been carrying around a Pomeranian the whole cruise. She was squeezing through the crowded mdr last night with dog. She isn't blind or this is one damn good seeing eye dog! :) Sent from my iPhone using Forums Service animals are not just for blind passengers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouhunter Posted November 28, 2014 #7 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Service animals are not just for blind passengers. No. In fact there are websites where people who have no legitimate reason for one can essentially "buy" a "certification"..........:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barb Nahoumi Posted November 28, 2014 #8 Share Posted November 28, 2014 I guess that they put pee pee pads down for Doggie's use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dacsmom Posted November 28, 2014 #9 Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) No. In fact there are websites where people who have no legitimate reason for one can essentially "buy" a "certification"..........:rolleyes: Unfortunately that is true Edited November 28, 2014 by dacsmom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langley Cruisers Posted November 28, 2014 #10 Share Posted November 28, 2014 We were on Brilliance a few years ago and they had a patch of grass in a tray (I guess, is the best description) on one of the decks for one guest's service dog to use (hidden as much as possible from passengers). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
girlzillla Posted November 29, 2014 #11 Share Posted November 29, 2014 But remember, the service animals cannot use the hot tubs. On the Jewel, it was listed as one of the rules. We thought that was kind of funny that they have to put that on this list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb at sea Posted November 29, 2014 #12 Share Posted November 29, 2014 (edited) You have to specify nowadays....there are tons of folks who "claim" their pets are "service animals"...yet they aren't at all....the law is very vague. It's indicative of our whole society...vague and bleary. There are no "lines drawn" for anything, anywhere. Edited November 29, 2014 by cb at sea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonV1 Posted November 29, 2014 #13 Share Posted November 29, 2014 (edited) Do they allow emotional support pigs? Only a matter on time I guess. Heard of dogs for those with PTSD and the like, first time I'd heard of a pig. http://abcnews.go.com/US/proof-pigs-fly/story?id=27222136 Edited November 29, 2014 by JasonV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clean1owner Posted November 29, 2014 #14 Share Posted November 29, 2014 When I worked for the airline, someone actually brought a service Shetland pony on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kegsgram Posted November 29, 2014 #15 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Brilliance of the Sea, April T A. Observed women pushing stroller in the Windjammer, same woman pushing same stroller in the area of Park Ave. Also observed in various hallways. In this stroller were two dogs. One appeared older than the other, both dogs were small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix1181 Posted November 29, 2014 #16 Share Posted November 29, 2014 When I worked for the airline, someone actually brought a service Shetland pony on board. I understand they're using ponies as service animals but would you please tell me where they stand & how/if they're restrained in any way? Dogs can sit and some are small enough to be held but I can't figure out how you travel with a pony. How do you get it into a car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNV-IT!!! Posted November 29, 2014 #17 Share Posted November 29, 2014 The people claim to need the dogs for emotional support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glentally Posted November 29, 2014 #18 Share Posted November 29, 2014 just of the enchantment, some guy holding a dogg while he is getting coffee. I'm a dog lover but this is getting out of hand. just an attention getter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollyeilis Posted November 29, 2014 #19 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Responses so often make me sad. http://www.royalcaribbean.com/contentWithHero.do?pagename=service_animals A service dog is defined as "any dog that is individually trained to do work or perform tasks for the benefit of a person with a disability." Service dogs are not considered pets. As for behaviour... If the service dog's behavior creates a fundamental alteration or a direct threat to safety, the dog may be denied boarding or removed from the ship along with the owner at the guest's expense. Examples include: growling, barking excessively, initiating unsolicited contact, biting other guests and/or crewmembers, failure to use designated relief areas, sitting on furniture, eating from the table, etc. Which is just like a fellow human. Can't deny boarding to humans who have paid their fare and have the right ID, but you can kick them off if they create problems! Small dogs aren't seeing eye dogs. Seeing eye dogs are not the only kinds of service dogs. I was very interested to find out that there are dogs who can sense a seizure coming on, and they are taught to alert the person. That allows the person to stop driving, stop walking, to get to a safe place and position, so they don't harm themselves or others. Dogs can also sense blood sugar changes before the person or their meter can. They are taught to alert, which then allows the person to figure out what way their blood sugar is going and take measures to help with that. As cool as seeing eye dogs are, those things are just as cool. I remain unconvinced that those living with hardships should have *more* hardships and expenses come their way by making them do more to document need and how the animal helps, etc etc. Therefore, if someone tells me they have a service animal, I make my life more peaceful by simply believing them, and by being GLAD for them that they have found a way to help their lives be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT2407 Posted November 29, 2014 #20 Share Posted November 29, 2014 You have to specify nowadays....there are tons of folks who "claim" their pets are "service animals"...yet they aren't at all....the law is very vague. It's indicative of our whole society...vague and bleary. There are no "lines drawn" for anything, anywhere. And if lines are drawn half the world thinks that they don't apply to them, because they are special. Just look at all the threads about smuggling alcohol on board, or formal nights, or about 100 other topics . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted November 29, 2014 #21 Share Posted November 29, 2014 just of the enchantment, some guy holding a dogg while he is getting coffee. I'm a dog lover but this is getting out of hand. just an attention getter Brilliance of the Sea, April T A. Observed women pushing stroller in the Windjammer, same woman pushing same stroller in the area of Park Ave. Also observed in various hallways. In this stroller were two dogs. One appeared older than the other, both dogs were small. Pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crilski Posted November 29, 2014 #22 Share Posted November 29, 2014 (edited) "Remember that "[a]nimals whose sole function is to provide emotional support, comfort, therapy, companionship, therapeutic benefits, or to promote emotional well-being are not service animals..." so a service animal must be specifically trained to DO something." "Additionally, if the animal behaves inappropriately, by disrupting business, behaving aggressively, interfering with other patrons or clients (say by sniffing them or jumping up on them), or toileting inappropriately, then it doesn't matter whether it is a service dog because you can still exclude it on the basis of "fundamental alteration" or "direct threat." " So unfair to legitimate needs and dogs that are actually trained. Edited November 29, 2014 by crilski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted November 29, 2014 #23 Share Posted November 29, 2014 So unfair to legitimate needs and dogs that are actually trained. How is asking that it be a trained service dog unfair to trained dogs and people with legitimate needs? What am I missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crilski Posted November 29, 2014 #24 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Sorry I wasn't clear - it is UNFAIR for the owners of fake service dogs to buy fake vests, tags, etc. - to the people that have a legitimate need and a trained animal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glentally Posted November 29, 2014 #25 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Pathetic. really, So who is going to defend the 50% of the people who are cheating the system and taking their dog with them for any number of reasons? None of you holier than thou I'm sure. You are going to assume all if not most have a "medical reason" to bring a a dog on a cruise ship. Ok, I get it it they "have" to take there dogs to the grocery, hardware stores, movie theatres, church,to the bathroom all so that they will feel secure and won't have seizures and attacks. Leave the dog or find a land vacation. Seeing eye dogs, people with visible handicaps I welcome those service dogs 110% of the time. Oh I know there are more than just visible handicaps, save your time cutting and pasting that quote but address the losers that don't have a handicap and still do it, then we can talk reality. Sorry, I'm not buying it. They fall right into the 60% of people who need to have a handicap sticker and move faster than me when they get out of their car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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