Letting table mates know you won't be at dinner

[bouhunter]

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2Cats is giving the absolute weirdest and illogical, not to mention, completely irrational reason I have ever seen. What could anyone possibly do with the information that you are dining elsewhere? And quit with the "google" statement as that makes as much sense as the rest of your reasons.

 

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Yup, well said. 2cats you posted all four of your future cruises on another thread for the whole world to see, aren't you worried "the criminals" might use that information for nefarious purposes?

Edited October 7, 2015 by bouhunter

[novicetraveller]

Well, that makes about as much sense as what 2cats is saying. No one can book themselves at your table in a specialty restaurant unless you put them on the reservation.

 

2Cats is giving the absolute weirdest and illogical, not to mention, completely irrational reason I have ever seen. What could anyone possibly do with the information that you are dining elsewhere? And quit with the "google" statement as that makes as much sense as the rest of your reasons.

 

We always let our waiter and tablemates know, whether we get along with them or not. It's just common courtesy for everyone involved.

 

Anytime a ship is in a port late, there is usually a large number of people who miss dinner, sometimes as a last minute decision. That is not the same as knowing you're going to miss and being rude enough to not let your tablemates and waitstaff know so they're not sitting there waiting for you.

 

BND. Take a step back and breathe in and out. If we were all rational, the world would be boring. Try not to make sense out of everything that everyone is saying. [emoji2]

[tiggyfrank]

Rather than my giving you the answer, think it through yourself. Then Google "cruise ship crimes cover ups".

 

I emphasize that we feel safe on RCI, but still take sensible precautions.

 

Yeah, think it through, people!

What if the aliens on the ship find out your plans, then morph into clones of you? Then they take your seats at the table as you and get into the minds of your table mates and wait staff and harm them? Since they know what specialty restaurant you are in, they will next come after you, after morphing into your tablemates.

 

C'mon guys, this is just common sense stuff!

[novicetraveller]

Yeah, think it through, people!

What if the aliens on the ship find out your plans, then morph into clones of you? Then they take your seats at the table as you and get into the minds of your table mates and wait staff and harm them? Since they know what specialty restaurant you are in, they will next come after you, after morphing into your tablemates.

 

C'mon guys, this is just common sense stuff!

 

What is common sense to you, is illogical to someone else. Plus if an alien wants to morph into me... they better shed some weight off first!!

[sjb317]

Yeah, think it through, people!

What if the aliens on the ship find out your plans, then morph into clones of you? Then they take your seats at the table as you and get into the minds of your table mates and wait staff and harm them? Since they know what specialty restaurant you are in, they will next come after you, after morphing into your tablemates.

 

C'mon guys, this is just common sense stuff!

 

Yes, but if you line your shoes with aluminum foil, it blocks any attempt at morphing. I never cruise without my Reynolds Wrap!:D:D

 

Sherri:)

[Havingfun2010]

Sorry, but the security make perfect sense. You see, the criminal is going to know that you are at dinner at 6:00 and they are going to wait by your stateroom door for you to exit and pillage your room. But by telling everyone that you will be dining elsewhere, without giving a specific time, or location, than the criminal would not know what time to pillage your stateroom.

 

Oh wait, isn't this the opposite? By telling people you have different plans, it makes it more confusing for the thief, because you changed your routine! Oh well, guess they will just go to the next stateroom......

[slyster]

We always let our waiters know not to expect us. I guess it's more of out of courtesy. We probably don't have to, but I figure it doesn't hurt to mention it if we know in advance. If it's a last minute decision to skip the dining room, then I wouldn't notify them.

[Hotel CA]

Rather than my giving you the answer, think it through yourself. Then Google "cruise ship crimes cover ups".

 

I emphasize that we feel safe on RCI, but still take sensible precautions.

 

Just read "Dangers on cruise ships: Abductions and Trafficking" and "7 Reasons To Never Ever Vacation on a Cruise ship" Sensational journalism in the best case, Yellow Journalism in the worst-- Is 2Cats a cruise focussed Journalist perhaps or just profoundly affected by obscure crime lit?

[CruisinShips]

As a criminal, I really wish 2CatsInFlorida would not have made such a post, and ruined everything for me and those like me.

 

I happen to go on cruises with the specific goal of being seated with really wealthy people in the MDR of a cruise ship just HOPING they will announce they won't be at dinner the following night. When I hear this, it creates my opening to do things. Bad things. Things that I can't explain here, but if you google "bad things criminals on cruises do when they hear people will be dining elsewhere the following night" you will figure it out for yourselves.

[bouhunter]

Sorry, but the security make perfect sense. You see, the criminal is going to know that you are at dinner at 6:00 and they are going to wait by your stateroom door for you to exit and pillage your room. But by telling everyone that you will be dining elsewhere, without giving a specific time, or location, than the criminal would not know what time to pillage your stateroom.

 

Oh wait, isn't this the opposite? By telling people you have different plans, it makes it more confusing for the thief, because you changed your routine! Oh well, guess they will just go to the next stateroom......

 

And they know you're dining at 6:00 because they've been scoping out YOUR room all week and following you to MDR. And they've interviewed your tablemates and waiter so they know you aren't in MDR that night, so then they know you're not in the MDR and they know you must be somewhere else so it's safe to either break into your room, or mug you in that secret hallway on the way to your 7:00 Chops reservation.......:D But wait, maybe your table mates have been in on it all along, or the waiter. OMG!!!!

[George C]

We eat half our meals in specialty restaurants but always tell waiter the nights we will not be there ( we normally have table for 2)

[Paul65]

Well...2Cats certainly took this thread in an unexpected direction. :D

 

To answer the OP, yes, I generally tend to let the waiters and/or tablemates know, if I am planning to miss dinner in the MDR on a given night. It's not something you have to do, but it eliminates people wondering if they should wait a few minutes for you to show up or not.

[starlake]

I am sure this did not turn out as the OP thought, but after 2Cats posted, I have never enjoyed a thread so much for a long time. Thanks to all of you that made me laugh so hard, tears rolled down my face.:D

[finz2u]

For me, it's an issue of manners and politeness, but some of your responses have me ROFLing.

[Sascol]

I can understand 2CatsInFlorida point to a certain degree. Some people like to have some privacy during dinner time. I for one wouldn't want people to know which speciality restaurant I am going to go to on a particular night, in case they decide one person on the table I don't get on with decides to book and invite themselves to the same table.

 

You would not need to let anyone know WHERE you were going to be. At a minimum the wait staff should be advised you will not be there just so they know not to hold everything up for the others while waiting for you. You could be in a restaurant, the casino or your shower for that matter. Nobody would know and nobody would mess with you but the others would be able to start service on time knowing you would not be there.

Edited October 7, 2015 by Sascol

[squadron]

Curious to know why you might consider this a "security" concern ?

 

I, too, was wondering. Hopefully, my tablemates would wonder if I was OK if I just didn't show up!

[Sascol]

Ladies and Gentlemen, this is your Captain speaking. I know WHO you are, I know WHERE you are and most importantly, I know WHERE YOU LIVE. As I speak to you I have a team of thousands rummaging through your homes. Upon your return from this cruise you will find your homes to be empty. We did leave your pets behind though and left them plenty of food and water. We are if nothing else, humane in that manner.

 

Thank you. Oh yea - and tomorrow we will be docking in St. Thomas at 8am.

[mil76]

If I tell the table that I won't be at dinner, some criminal at my table might see that as an opportunity to steal all the savory bites!

[GUT2407]

What is common sense to you, is illogical to someone else. Plus if an alien wants to morph into me... they better shed some weight off first!!

 

And if the want to Morph into me they better put some on.

[GUT2407]

And if the want to Morph into me they better put some on.

 

But perhaps that is why they want to get into the MDR. In the first place, :confused:

[Rala]

There are criminals on cruise ships and they like to know their victim's routine. Google and you will find some very serious incidents. Enjoy your cruise, but take sensible precautions.

 

What? This makes no sense at all. How is my security compromised if I am eating in Chops instead of the MDR. Please explain...if you can.:eek:

[ewenix]

I can understand 2CatsInFlorida point to a certain degree. Some people like to have some privacy during dinner time. I for one wouldn't want people to know which speciality restaurant I am going to go to on a particular night, in case they decide one person on the table I don't get on with decides to book and invite themselves to the same table.

 

Regarding the crime cover up, nope... don't buy into that.

 

However, if I have pre-booked some speciality restaurants, shouldn't the wait staff in the MDR be informed of it beforehand? (I know if you make last minute plans, then they don't get informed, which I fully understand).

 

I agree with 2cats to a point as well.

There's no reason tablemates need to know your whereabouts or schedule, but if you want to let them know that's a personal decision.

 

There's an awful lot of folks in this forum using the logical fallacy of appeal to extreme in order to poke fun at 2cats.

 

2cats simple stated they wouldn't say for convenience and security.

Someone is now asking why it compromises their safety to let someone know they're eating at Chops and not the MDR. You've added detail of your own to the argument instead of asking the poster for clarification.

 

If the poster said it was for convenience and security and added that they were a 28 yr old female cruising alone, would you still say they're being ridiculous?

 

Perhaps it's my military experience combined with experiences such as learning to fly an airplane, but you should always be aware of your surroundings and be reasonably prepared for emergency situations. If you're bopping around feeling safe because there's a security guard on board, or at the mall, or a police car just drove by then you my friend are a good target.

[Paul65]

If the poster said it was for convenience and security and added that they were a 28 yr old female cruising alone, would you still say they're being ridiculous?

 

Yes

[Charles4515]

I agree with 2cats to a point as well.

 

There's no reason tablemates need to know your whereabouts or schedule, but if you want to let them know that's a personal decision.

 

 

 

There's an awful lot of folks in this forum using the logical fallacy of appeal to extreme in order to poke fun at 2cats.

 

 

 

2cats simple stated they wouldn't say for convenience and security.

 

Someone is now asking why it compromises their safety to let someone know they're eating at Chops and not the MDR. You've added detail of your own to the argument instead of asking the poster for clarification.

 

 

 

If the poster said it was for convenience and security and added that they were a 28 yr old female cruising alone, would you still say they're being ridiculous?

 

 

 

Perhaps it's my military experience combined with experiences such as learning to fly an airplane, but you should always be aware of your surroundings and be reasonably prepared for emergency situations. If you're bopping around feeling safe because there's a security guard on board, or at the mall, or a police car just drove by then you my friend are a good target.

 

 

Saying you won't be at dinner in the MDR is not telling where you will be. It's telling one place where you will not be. You could be anywhere else.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Edited October 7, 2015 by Charles4515

[GUT2407]

I agree with 2cats to a point as well.

There's no reason tablemates need to know your whereabouts or schedule, but if you want to let them know that's a personal decision.

 

There's an awful lot of folks in this forum using the logical fallacy of appeal to extreme in order to poke fun at 2cats.

 

2cats simple stated they wouldn't say for convenience and security.

Someone is now asking why it compromises their safety to let someone know they're eating at Chops and not the MDR. You've added detail of your own to the argument instead of asking the poster for clarification.

 

If the poster said it was for convenience and security and added that they were a 28 yr old female cruising alone, would you still say they're being ridiculous?

 

Perhaps it's my military experience combined with experiences such as learning to fly an airplane, but you should always be aware of your surroundings and be reasonably prepared for emergency situations. If you're bopping around feeling safe because there's a security guard on board, or at the mall, or a police car just drove by then you my friend are a good target.

 

 

Again they don't need tell anyone where they are going, and there are multiple possibilities, just the one spot they aren't going.

 

As for asking for clarification, that was done, did you read 2cats answer to that?

 

And yes it would be ridiculous even if they were a 21 year old drop dead model, because all that is being suggested is they say "I won't be here" plenty of other places they may be, no one suggests that they need to say ill be eating at "wherever" at X o'clock.

 

So please do explain how their security would in any way be compromised.

 

If you are worried about stalkers turning up at the MDR every night at e same time us by far the greater risk.