NMLady Posted January 10, 2016 #1 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I found this account of the evacuation of the original Prisendam interesting. http://www.sitnews.us/Kiffer/Prisendam/101015_prisendam.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted January 10, 2016 #2 Share Posted January 10, 2016 The most important part of the story is no lives were lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtl513 Posted January 10, 2016 #3 Share Posted January 10, 2016 (edited) The book is available on Amazon if you want to read more: http://www.amazon.com/Burning-Cold-Cruise-Prinsendam-Greatest/dp/0760320799 Edited January 10, 2016 by jtl513 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilvertoGold Posted January 10, 2016 #4 Share Posted January 10, 2016 The book is a fascinating read. Especially right before a cruise! Dolly was on this cruise. I wish we had had the chance to talk to her about it. I bet she would have a lot to say! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredT Posted January 10, 2016 #5 Share Posted January 10, 2016 LOL... Try reading it ON a cruise! My jokster of a sister bought me a copy and slipped it into my luggage before a HAL far east trip a couple years ago. Well, it looked interesting, so I set about to read it. About half way through the book ( was sitting in the Mix) I heard a voice say "huumph... REALLY?" Sure enough it was the Captain. When I looked up he just smiled, shook his head and walked on..... :rolleyes: (Good read though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janmcn Posted January 10, 2016 #6 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Friends of ours were on that cruise...very interesting to hear their story and see their scrapbook. Words of wisdom from them were to always know how to get into some clothes in the dark and know where your room key is. It was very lucky no lives were lost...one of them was close to losing his due to medical issues he had...many hours in a lifeboat was not fun. I always have a flashlight on the table next to the bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCalicoCat Posted January 10, 2016 #7 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Friends of ours were on that cruise...very interesting to hear their story and see their scrapbook. Words of wisdom from them were to always know how to get into some clothes in the dark and know where your room key is. It was very lucky no lives were lost...one of them was close to losing his due to medical issues he had...many hours in a lifeboat was not fun. I always have a flashlight on the table next to the bed. We sleep in sweats or t-shirt/shorts for this very reason.:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare TiogaCruiser Posted January 10, 2016 #8 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Friends of ours were on that cruise...very interesting to hear their story and see their scrapbook. Words of wisdom from them were to always know how to get into some clothes in the dark and know where your room key is. It was very lucky no lives were lost...one of them was close to losing his due to medical issues he had...many hours in a lifeboat was not fun. I always have a flashlight on the table next to the bed. Me too. I keep a "ditch bag" ( long underwear and a windbreak layer with shoes and meds ) readily available, and carry a small "button" light on my ship ID holder at all times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllinoisGirl1978 Posted January 10, 2016 #9 Share Posted January 10, 2016 The book is a fascinating read. Especially right before a cruise! Dolly was on this cruise. I wish we had had the chance to talk to her about it. I bet she would have a lot to say! I briefly read the account, wow. I am wondering if I should read the book. I briefly met Dolly on the Oosterdam back in 2013, she was a character. Mom and I had a cooking class with her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Gail & Marty sailing away Posted January 10, 2016 #10 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Thanks for the info ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daisyloo Posted January 10, 2016 #11 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Wow. That is really interesting. I just reserved it at my local library. It makes me wonder how scarey it would be to have something like that happen on our transatlantic cruise, out in the middle of the ocean. :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serendipity1499 Posted January 10, 2016 #12 Share Posted January 10, 2016 (edited) The book is available on Amazon if you want to read more: http://www.amazon.com/Burning-Cold-Cruise-Prinsendam-Greatest/dp/0760320799 Read that book several years ago.. It's amazing that no lives were lost..Still have it in our library..Very interesting.. As a matter of fact, this is discussed every few years on Cruise Critic.. Here is another thread from 2014 about the sinking: http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1987301&highlight=burning+cold When we had our own boat, we make sure everyone was aware of the safety issues especially when we sailed at night Edited January 10, 2016 by serendipity1499 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted January 10, 2016 #13 Share Posted January 10, 2016 We have read the book. Certainly it was a miracle that no lives were lost. I still jump and collect items quickly when I hear the fire alarms go off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilvertoGold Posted January 10, 2016 #14 Share Posted January 10, 2016 LOL... Try reading it ON a cruise! My jokster of a sister bought me a copy and slipped it into my luggage before a HAL far east trip a couple years ago. Well, it looked interesting, so I set about to read it. About half way through the book ( was sitting in the Mix) I heard a voice say "huumph... REALLY?" Sure enough it was the Captain. When I looked up he just smiled, shook his head and walked on..... :rolleyes: (Good read though) Some HAL Captains have SUCH a sense of humor! Glad you enjoyed the book. We read it right before a trans-Pacific cruise. Sheeeesh!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Scrapnana Posted January 10, 2016 #15 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I read the book a couple of years ago and really enjoyed it despite the poor reviews (on-line). The whole incident could have been so much worse without the amazing work of many dedicated people. It is a quick read and well worth your time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkNC Posted January 11, 2016 #16 Share Posted January 11, 2016 The book is available on Amazon if you want to read more: http://www.amazon.com/Burning-Cold-Cruise-Prinsendam-Greatest/dp/0760320799 The book, while not terribly well written, is fascinating. We met a couple that were on that cruise. They did not say a lot about it but we're still cruising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare TiogaCruiser Posted January 11, 2016 #17 Share Posted January 11, 2016 (edited) The book, while not terribly well written, is fascinating. We met a couple that were on that cruise. They did not say a lot about it but we're still cruising. Bolding mine. Totally agree. But the story was fascinating. Edited January 11, 2016 by TiogaCruiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pspercy Posted January 11, 2016 #18 Share Posted January 11, 2016 (edited) SOS ms Prinsendam October 4, 1980 Recording #1 is an explanation by one of the participants. https://archive.org/details/SosMsPrinsendamOctober41980 It rolls to Recording #2, SOS starts at 01:00 minutes, preceding that is a tone which triggers alarms in receivers on frequency. Edited January 11, 2016 by pspercy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john2003 Posted January 11, 2016 #19 Share Posted January 11, 2016 It is an interesting read. I wonder if it is required reading for the marine architects of mega-cruise ships and the executives who order them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serendipity1499 Posted January 11, 2016 #20 Share Posted January 11, 2016 SOS ms Prinsendam October 4, 1980 Recording #1 is an explanation by one of the participants. https://archive.org/details/SosMsPrinsendamOctober41980 It rolls to Recording #2, SOS starts at 01:00 minutes, preceding that is a tone which triggers alarms in receivers on frequency. Thanks for posting that link..Another interesting fact about the Prinsendam sinking.. I don't remember that story being told in the book, but it may have been.. In any event I printed up a copy of the article you posted to keep with my book "Burning Cold" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pspercy Posted January 11, 2016 #21 Share Posted January 11, 2016 (edited) Thanks for posting that link..Another interesting fact about the Prinsendam sinking.. I don't remember that story being told in the book, but it may have been.. In any event I printed up a copy of the article you posted to keep with my book "Burning Cold" When the powers that be were holding hearings to decide if they should do away with the requirement for ships to carry full time Radio Operators one of the participants in that rescue used it as an example of the value of having human operators. Didn't work. As for being in the book, I don't know but doubt it, after all the heroism of the Marconi operators on the Titanic was rarely mentioned later. http://hf.ro/ Edited January 11, 2016 by pspercy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkNC Posted January 11, 2016 #22 Share Posted January 11, 2016 SOS ms Prinsendam October 4, 1980 Recording #1 is an explanation by one of the participants. https://archive.org/details/SosMsPrinsendamOctober41980 It rolls to Recording #2, SOS starts at 01:00 minutes, preceding that is a tone which triggers alarms in receivers on frequency. I think that was not the only questionable decision by the captain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catl331 Posted January 11, 2016 #23 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Should be required reading...then the people who constantly complain about safety drills will thank HAL for being so stern about them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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