Rare LMaxwell Posted February 6, 2016 Author #101 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Not many of that 12% said what they would actually be prepared to pay though. Very easy to vote "yes" in the hope that somehow Celebrity will take notice and go back to formal. I would have preferred more people to comment on WHAT they were willing to pay, but based on the title and premise of the thread, voting yes is equivalent to voting to pay some amount. So while many did not affix a dollar amount to their yes, the yes indicates a willingness to spend. However, if you are saying some voted yes with no intent to spend and are just trying to "game" the poll, so to speak, that is also possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted February 6, 2016 Author #102 Share Posted February 6, 2016 (edited) But what really is the point of even having a dress code at such a level of dress. Just let people come dressed however they please. Does a golf shirt collar really matter? Does the length of the leg coverage really make a difference? Won't you enjoy your meal just as much? I guess you could have a dress code which requires some type of top and some type of bottom, or a combination of both (aka dress), combined with something on your feet. I'm all for a more casual dress code and I take advantage of them when I am on ships that offer them. I don't go sweaty, in gym or pool clothes, or lawn mowing clothes, no graphic T-shirts or sports logos, etc. I dress clean and comfortable. But for some this is an issue. To me I actually enjoy the experience more when I am comfortable and I am one that thinks ships are NEVER cold inside! And just what do I get for paying extra ?????????????????????? You get an environment guaranteed to have those around you all dressed to a higher level, in a section / room that carries a much higher minimum than the rest of the ship. There is not additional food or services over the MDR, the payment is for the environment and ambiance, potentially quieter as it would be less crowded / more intimate. However, since no major infrastructure change, extra kitchen, new menu, additional staff, etc. are needed to accomplish this, the overall costs could be kept relatively in check. I personally thought the fellow who said $35pp set the mark higher than I would if I were the cruise line. Edited February 6, 2016 by LMaxwell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwcruisers Posted February 6, 2016 #103 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Has anyone cruised on RC's Quantum Class ships? I understand that one of their new "mdr-alternative" restaurants is formal dress (every night). If I'm not mistaken, it was listed as one of their "free" (as opposed to upsell) offerings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjrpar Posted February 6, 2016 #104 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Been on QotS last year. There is a formal , free restaurant, however, it is not formal. A few tuxes, some dark suits, many sport coats, about 25-40% casual. Of course, the MDR has not really been formal for 10years. That is why I never understand these moronic dress codes threads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruzinram Posted February 6, 2016 #105 Share Posted February 6, 2016 (edited) Will it be ok if I wear my favorite teams ball cap in the MDR. I did not see it listed in the dress code as being prohibited. I usually wear it whenever I eat in local casual restaurants. Edited February 6, 2016 by Cruzinram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted February 6, 2016 Author #106 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Been on QotS last year. There is a formal , free restaurant, however, it is not formal. A few tuxes, some dark suits, many sport coats, about 25-40% casual. Of course, the MDR has not really been formal for 10years. That is why I never understand these moronic dress codes threads Your failure to understand doesn't make the topic moronic. I feel it has been explained in here a few times as to the idea and concept in a very simplistic manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted February 6, 2016 #107 Share Posted February 6, 2016 (edited) Will it be ok if I wear my favorite teams ball cap in the MDR. I did not see it listed in the dress code as being prohibited. I usually wear it whenever I eat in local casual restaurants. The only thing stopping you is your wife.:p personally I always thought it was unnecessary to wear a hat indoors. Edited February 7, 2016 by MicCanberra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EGG Posted February 7, 2016 #108 Share Posted February 7, 2016 It's called a Cunard cruise. Sent from my Nexus 7 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted February 7, 2016 #109 Share Posted February 7, 2016 It's called a Cunard cruise. Sent from my Nexus 7 using Forums mobile app Even they do not enforce the policies for the MDR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare hcat Posted February 7, 2016 #110 Share Posted February 7, 2016 (edited) Will it be ok if I wear my favorite teams ball cap in the MDR. I did not see it listed in the dress code as being prohibited. I usually wear it whenever I eat in local casual restaurants. Usual protocol is that gentlemen remove hats indoors, unless religious attire. On our last cruise someone wore the same large brim backwards cap wherever he went,,,day, night,inside outside.. guess local norms vary???? Edited February 7, 2016 by hcat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GottaKnowWhen Posted February 7, 2016 #111 Share Posted February 7, 2016 I've created a poll above with two choices; yes and no, to try to keep things simple. Would you pay a surcharge for a dining room, or walled off section of the dining room, that was mandatory formal only? It would still be dining room service and menu, but clearly partitioned. This does not mean you can only dress formally in this section; you can dress formal on the beach for all anyone cares, but it does mean strictly no admittance without formal wear. Write in: If you answered yes please indicate how much you would pay for this, say, per person per night. I say no. If you want to have one of the specialty restaurants closed off 2 nights of a 7 night cruise and restrict it to those in formal wear, fine. I might even come to one of those parties. But the MDR space has far too many partitions already... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GottaKnowWhen Posted February 7, 2016 #112 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Will it be ok if I wear my favorite teams ball cap in the MDR. I did not see it listed in the dress code as being prohibited. I usually wear it whenever I eat in local casual restaurants. There are slobs wherever you go... Normal men do not wear hats indoors. Exceptions made for those undergoing chemo, under religious obligation, or due to their employment (e.g., clown). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT2407 Posted February 7, 2016 #113 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Just had a look at the poll numbers an overwhelming NO. Wonder how many of those are No cause I hate formal No, cause why should I pay extra fir something that's always been part of the cruise experience Np, cause its not worth extra money Or No, for some other reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jade13 Posted February 7, 2016 #114 Share Posted February 7, 2016 (edited) Will it be ok if I wear my favorite teams ball cap in the MDR. I did not see it listed in the dress code as being prohibited. I usually wear it whenever I eat in local casual restaurants. It is not a problem but most likely will not see ball caps in the evenings. Edited February 7, 2016 by Jade13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted February 7, 2016 #115 Share Posted February 7, 2016 There are slobs wherever you go...Normal men do not wear hats indoors. Exceptions made for those undergoing chemo, under religious obligation, or due to their employment (e.g., clown). Love it, we get our fair share of those on some cruises.:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted February 7, 2016 #116 Share Posted February 7, 2016 It is not a problem but most likely will not see ball caps in the evenings. Perhaps there should be a surcharge if people want to wear caps in the MDR.:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-elite Posted February 7, 2016 #117 Share Posted February 7, 2016 MicCanberra, you have many terrific revenue generating ideas for Celebrity! If only the OP would occasionally let the readers know her latest thoughts on this topic. I've never seen such "nurturing" of a topic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted February 7, 2016 #118 Share Posted February 7, 2016 MicCanberra, you have many terrific revenue generating ideas for Celebrity! If only the OP would occasionally let the readers know her latest thoughts on this topic. I've never seen such "nurturing" of a topic! Yeah, I think I should get some rebates off my next cruise.;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slidergirl Posted February 7, 2016 #119 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Just had a look at the poll numbers an overwhelming NO. Wonder how many of those are No cause I hate formal No, cause why should I pay extra fir something that's always been part of the cruise experience Np, cause its not worth extra money Or No, for some other reason. I voted Yes, but you would never catch me in that dining room! With the doing away of the "formal" dining night, I would be OK with an offering of a specialty restaurant where true formal wear was a requirement. Then, those who bitch and moan about the lack of formal night and, if they wear their formal duds, their experience is ruined by having to dine in the MDR with the great proletariat. They would be surrounded by their like-minded cohorts and could enjoy a dinner in their tuxes and gowns… Since you would only wall off for 1-2 nights per cruise, I could see just making a temporary separation. No need to kick out the majority that do the cruise line's suggested dress, but to offer those who feel the need to snub their nose at the suggested dress and overdress in their formal stuff... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ma Bell Posted February 7, 2016 #120 Share Posted February 7, 2016 (edited) I voted Yes, but you would never catch me in that dining room! With the doing away of the "formal" dining night, I would be OK with an offering of a specialty restaurant where true formal wear was a requirement. Then, those who bitch and moan about the lack of formal night and, if they wear their formal duds, their experience is ruined by having to dine in the MDR with the great proletariat. They would be surrounded by their like-minded cohorts and could enjoy a dinner in their tuxes and gowns… Since you would only wall off for 1-2 nights per cruise, I could see just making a temporary separation. No need to kick out the majority that do the cruise line's suggested dress, but to offer those who feel the need to snub their nose at the suggested dress and overdress in their formal stuff... I really don't understand what your problem is. People are basically allowed to wear what they please now. Isn't that good enough? I seems the ones who want a separate formal dining room are the ones who are able to wear more casual clothing now. This comes directly from the Celebrity website so why you would think anyone is "snubbing" their nose at suggested dress is beyond me. Relax and be happy and don't worry if someone decides to dress up. "Evening Chic means that you can get glamorous and be sophisticated in your own way. If you would like to still wear a tuxedo or formal gown on Evening Chic nights, you absolutely should. All cruises that are 7 nights or longer will feature two Evening Chic nights. Any cruise 6-nights or shorter will feature one Evening Chic night. All other nights of the cruise will feature Smart Casual attire. Celebrity Xpedition will continue to feature casual attire for the entire cruise." Edited February 7, 2016 by Ma Bell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsKNZ Posted February 7, 2016 #121 Share Posted February 7, 2016 I really don't understand what your problem is. People are basically allowed to wear what they please now. Isn't that good enough? I seems the ones who want a separate formal dining room are the ones who are able to wear more casual clothing now. This comes directly from the Celebrity website so why you would think anyone is "snubbing" their nose at suggested dress is beyond me. Relax and be happy and don't worry if someone decides to dress up. "Evening Chic means that you can get glamorous and be sophisticated in your own way. If you would like to still wear a tuxedo or formal gown on Evening Chic nights, you absolutely should. All cruises that are 7 nights or longer will feature two Evening Chic nights. Any cruise 6-nights or shorter will feature one Evening Chic night. All other nights of the cruise will feature Smart Casual attire. Celebrity Xpedition will continue to feature casual attire for the entire cruise." I think Slidergirl was agreeing with the new dress code, but saying she supports a separate area for those to go who feel that their entire holiday is ruined because of what a stranger wears (I.e not formal, dressy, classy enough for them). And, if I'm correct, I agree. If what I'm wearing is within the stated dress code, but someone just doesn't like it, it's their problem not mine, and I don't want to hear about it [emoji41] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYKWIA Posted February 7, 2016 #122 Share Posted February 7, 2016 I can't see how they can make a small dining room with MDR work on just chic nights - what will it be used for at other times? It will take valuable space away from the MDR - unless those people paying the premium for Formal Dress eat in that area on non Chic nights - but then the whole I'm not dressing up argument would only resurface again in the near future when someone turns up not dressed in their Formal evening wear. Im sure I read that the Grand Dining room on Quantum of the Seas was intended to be Formal Clothing every night the ship launched. I believe that dress code has been relaxed a bit now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ma Bell Posted February 7, 2016 #123 Share Posted February 7, 2016 I think Slidergirl was agreeing with the new dress code, but saying she supports a separate area for those to go who feel that their entire holiday is ruined because of what a stranger wears (I.e not formal, dressy, classy enough for them). And, if I'm correct, I agree. If what I'm wearing is within the stated dress code, but someone just doesn't like it, it's their problem not mine, and I don't want to hear about it [emoji41] No, I think the problem is some people won't be happy until the "possibility" that someone might dress up is completely gone. I've been on lots of Celebrity cruises and have never seen any kind of confrontation or argument between passengers about what someone was wearing. The argument was only here on these boards. There have also been very few people who ever say there entire holiday is ruined, just that they may have enjoyed Formal Nights. As far as I know people are allowed to think and feel whatever they like as long as they keep it to themselves. Now that Celebrity has changed the dress code people should feel comfortable wearing whatever they consider chic on Evening Chic nights. Apparently that is not the case or they wouldn't be so concerned that people might continue to dress up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted February 7, 2016 Author #124 Share Posted February 7, 2016 No, I think the problem is some people won't be happy until the "possibility" that someone might dress up is completely gone. I've been on lots of Celebrity cruises and have never seen any kind of confrontation or argument between passengers about what someone was wearing. The argument was only here on these boards. There have also been very few people who ever say there entire holiday is ruined, just that they may have enjoyed Formal Nights. As far as I know people are allowed to think and feel whatever they like as long as they keep it to themselves. Now that Celebrity has changed the dress code people should feel comfortable wearing whatever they consider chic on Evening Chic nights. Apparently that is not the case or they wouldn't be so concerned that people might continue to dress up. I'm not concerned that others will continue to dress up. Is that the impression the thread topic has created? It should not be. I am simply saying that I understand that of those who will continue to dress up that some amongst those are NOT happy that others will not dress up and feel the atmosphere is not conducive to their full enjoyment. That is why I suggested a separate area with a higher bar of entry; to maintain the atmosphere they desire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wine-O Posted February 7, 2016 #125 Share Posted February 7, 2016 I'm not concerned that others will continue to dress up. Is that the impression the thread topic has created? It should not be. I am simply saying that I understand that of those who will continue to dress up that some amongst those are NOT happy that others will not dress up and feel the atmosphere is not conducive to their full enjoyment. That is why I suggested a separate area with a higher bar of entry; to maintain the atmosphere they desire. In my opinion, the only thing you are doing by creating this thread is trying to "stir the pot" and create controversy. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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