Anthem keeps docking us around

[kearney]

We do now. :) Credit freeze, purchase alerts, etc.

 

When I travel I usually call my credit card company and tell them exactly where I will be and on what days. Once while traveling my card was denied... turns out that they noticed a charge out of state. It was quickly corrected, but it got me to thinking that if my card was stolen while out of the country it would be difficult to reach them until home.

[Susie51]

Thank you for updates on Anthem's position.

[oldguysandgalls]

Ahum.... ;) may I have your attention please....

Any news about the Anthem?

No..?

NO!

No?

NO! NO ! !

Oh, okay...just checking....

:D

[Turtles06]

When I travel I usually call my credit card company and tell them exactly where I will be and on what days. Once while traveling my card was denied... turns out that they noticed a charge out of state. It was quickly corrected, but it got me to thinking that if my card was stolen while out of the country it would be difficult to reach them until home.

 

Check the back of your card. Most will have not only a domestic customer service number, but also a number to call if you are abroad. Put those numbers someplace where you'll have them if your card were to be stolen/lost.

[shaun07]

The best option given that we now know the storm grew larger and became even more powerful than anticipated. If the storm had become less severe and smaller.... we would be saying that they should not have cancelled. The benefit of being able to monday morning quarterback.

 

why would they have had to cancel? just change the ports. Given the choice I think most would rather not gamble with a storm especially one that was supposed to have at least 70mph winds. Its not like everything looked like clear sailing . They saw the storm and went into it. Even if the storm never exploded like it did I really don't want to be sailing in the lesser forecasted storm.

Edited February 15, 2016 by shaun07

[iheartbda]

Other port options are usually very limited and they can't just pull into one on the fly.

[GEARADRIFT]

why would they have had to cancel? just change the ports. Given the choice I think most would rather not gamble with a storm especially one that was supposed to have at least 70mph winds. Its not like everything looked like clear sailing . They saw the storm and went into it. Even if the storm never exploded like it did I really don't want to be sailing in the lesser forecasted storm.

 

Just exactly which ports did you have in mind that they should have sailed? Boston? Halifax (Nova Scotia)? Portland, Maine? Seeing as their (Anthem's) path to the Caribbean was for all potential purposes 'blocked off' by this exploding storm. I say again, which ports did you have in mind? Give us something here. Give us a course/heading to set. Let's get this cruise of yours on it's way. :)

[foxgoodrich]

The location of the storm, the size it became, and the direction it moved pretty much precluded reaching any ports to the south or east without going through it. The alternative might have been to travel north to Canadian ports.

Judy

[akcruz]

The location of the storm, the size it became, and the direction it moved pretty much precluded reaching any ports to the south or east without going through it. The alternative might have been to travel north to Canadian ports.

Judy

Isn't that the direction the storm went in? So if they had gone north they would have had the storm on their heels on the way up and wouldn't it have caught up at some point?

 

This truly was a no win situation for this sailing in my mind.

 

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[robtulipe]

why would they have had to cancel? just change the ports. Given the choice I think most would rather not gamble with a storm especially one that was supposed to have at least 70mph winds. Its not like everything looked like clear sailing . They saw the storm and went into it. Even if the storm never exploded like it did I really don't want to be sailing in the lesser forecasted storm.

 

The location of the storm, the size it became, and the direction it moved pretty much precluded reaching any ports to the south or east without going through it. The alternative might have been to travel north to Canadian ports.

Judy

 

That storm hit our Canada's Maritimes and Newfoundland later last week. It's a balmy around zero degrees F here in the Banana Belt of Southern Ontario and even colder out east. :eek:

I guess the only options then was a NYC harbor cruise or to cancel.

Concerning the delayed Crown Princess cruise in Ensenada that was a completely different situation. As other have pointed out the weather system was already there and it was the last port before returning to LA. In fact if I had been onboard I would have been very happy to be getting an no cost extension to my cruise, which is what happen on Anthem two cruises prior, as long as we didn't have a flight to catch which would have been very unlikely for us. :)

This wasn't the same at all for Anthem which had just return from a delayed and completely changed cruise that had caused an uproar among its passengers. I don't think RCI wanted another ship load amount of very unhappy passengers by cancelling at the last minute.

Edited February 15, 2016 by robtulipe

[shaun07]

Just exactly which ports did you have in mind that they should have sailed? Boston? Halifax (Nova Scotia)? Portland, Maine? Seeing as their (Anthem's) path to the Caribbean was for all potential purposes 'blocked off' by this exploding storm. I say again, which ports did you have in mind? Give us something here. Give us a course/heading to set. Let's get this cruise of yours on it's way. :)

 

how about waiting a day and letting the storm pass before heading out. Seems like it would be a good compromise. Might lose a port call. I really don't think anybody would be too upset if given a choice between being delayed one day in port or sailing into a storm.

 

Could even just sail out of the harbor for a day a " Cruise to nowhere" type thing while waiting to see what happens with the storm. Certainly better then heading towards it

Edited February 15, 2016 by shaun07

[Big_G]

how about waiting a day and letting the storm pass before heading out. Seems like it would be a good compromise. Might lose a port call. I really don't think anybody would be too upset if given a choice between being delayed one day in port or sailing into a storm.

 

Could even just sail out of the harbor for a day a " Cruise to nowhere" type thing while waiting to see what happens with the storm. Certainly better then heading towards it

 

It would have been more than a day wouldn't it?

[robtulipe]

PS-As one can see with the Anthem count down in my signature we'll be back on Anthem three weeks from today and that cruise was booked just last Tuesday. :D

[gaylemh]

how about waiting a day and letting the storm pass before heading out. Seems like it would be a good compromise. Might lose a port call. I really don't think anybody would be too upset if given a choice between being delayed one day in port or sailing into a storm.

 

Could even just sail out of the harbor for a day a " Cruise to nowhere" type thing while waiting to see what happens with the storm. Certainly better then heading towards it

 

I think it would have been more than a day in port for the storm to pass, and leaving from NJ there may not have been enough time to sail to Nassau.

[shaun07]

It would have been more than a day wouldn't it?

 

I don't think so. The storm got bad around 4pm on Sunday. So they would have seen how big it was

Edited February 15, 2016 by shaun07

[gaylemh]

I don't think so. The storm got bad around 4pm on Sunday. So they would have seen how big it was

 

But the storm was down by the Carolinas at 4, it still had to come up the coast past NJ, or you would have been sailing through it at some point.

[gaylemh]

PS-As one can see with the Anthem count down in my signature we'll be back on Anthem three weeks from today and that cruise was booked just last Tuesday. :D

 

Me too! See you onboard.

[shaun07]

But the storm was down by the Carolinas at 4, it still had to come up the coast past NJ, or you would have been sailing through it at some point.

I was saying that since they couldn't adjust the ports and instead of cancelling the cruise they should have delayed it to see what happens with the storm. If they wait until Sunday and then tell the passengers we have to cancel or can't make any ports and we are going to cruise to nowhere. not many will be upset when RCCL says were sorry for the change of plans but hey we missed sailing into a giant hurricane

[shaun07]

I don't see why it has to be a go or cancel situation. Why can't it be a wait and see and adapt situation by putting safety first.

[robtulipe]

how about waiting a day and letting the storm pass before heading out. Seems like it would be a good compromise. Might lose a port call. I really don't think anybody would be too upset if given a choice between being delayed one day in port or sailing into a storm.

 

Could even just sail out of the harbor for a day a " Cruise to nowhere" type thing while waiting to see what happens with the storm. Certainly better then heading towards it

 

It would have been more than a day wouldn't it?

That's for sure.

Anthem hit that storm off Carolina coast on Sunday evening and it hit our Maritime provinces on Friday I believe. That was a seven night cruise with a hurricane passing by right in the middle of it.

Cruises to nowhere are no longer allowed out of US ports on foreign flagged passenger vessels and shaun07 is saying RCI should intentionally do this. There likely would be some substantial fines assessed against them if they did. I know for PVSA infractions the fine is $300 per passenger. :eek:

Edited February 15, 2016 by robtulipe

[CPT Trips]

It might be good to know but it had no bearing on what they did. Princess made the choice that passenger/crew safety was more important than schedule or money. Was it the proper call? We'll never know but it was nice to see the passenger/crew safety be their number one focus.

 

If, and stress if, the decision has little or no effect on overall scheduling, it's easier to do something in an "abundance of caution". That's why I'm curious.

[shaun07]

That's for sure.

Anthem hit that storm off Carolina coast on Sunday evening and it hit our Maritime provinces on Friday I believe. That was a seven night cruise with a hurricane passing by right in the middle of it.

Cruises to nowhere are no longer allowed out of US ports and shaun07 is saying RCI should intentionally do this. There likely would be some substantial fines assessed against them if they did. I know for PVSA infractions the fine is $300 per passenger. :eek:

 

I am saying that the plan on saturday should be to wait. Then on sunday think THANK GOD WE WAITED. My point is they didn't have to go on saturday nor did they have to cancel. They could have waited to see what happened with the storm.

[cgolf1]

I am saying that the plan on saturday should be to wait. Then on sunday think THANK GOD WE WAITED. My point is they didn't have to go on saturday nor did they have to cancel. They could have waited to see what happened with the storm.

 

 

So curious on the hypothetical here, had they stayed docked, not always possible with port scheduling, but assume that they could and waited to leave until the late Sunday early Monday. Then the storm turned into a non event, and now because you left late you will miss at least 1 of your regularly scheduled ports, with the possibility of many if you can't reach them on the day you were scheduled to dock.

 

Would you be ok with this, or be just as frustrated as you are now, because your trip had been radically altered for a storm that never happened? Personally to me the cruise lines are in a lose lose situation, no matter what they choose someone is going to be disappointed.

 

If somebody already asked this sorry for the duplicate question.

[cruisenfever]

So curious on the hypothetical here, had they stayed docked, not always possible with port scheduling, but assume that they could and waited to leave until the late Sunday early Monday. Then the storm turned into a non event, and now because you left late you will miss at least 1 of your regularly scheduled ports, with the possibility of many if you can't reach them on the day you were scheduled to dock.

 

Would you be ok with this, or be just as frustrated as you are now, because your trip had been radically altered for a storm that never happened? Personally to me the cruise lines are in a lose lose situation, no matter what they choose someone is going to be disappointed.

 

If somebody already asked this sorry for the duplicate question.

Absolutely or in other words.......It's Damned if you Do and Damned if you don't!!:p

[foxgoodrich]

That storm hit our Canada's Maritimes and Newfoundland later last week. It's a balmy around zero degrees F here in the Banana Belt of Southern Ontario and even colder out east. :eek:

I guess the only options then was a NYC harbor cruise or to cancel.

 

:eek:Of course you are right - the storm did travel north. The intensity/size may have decreased, but bad weather definitely did go with it. Canadian ports would not have been a good alternative either.

 

Some would have been happy to stay in port a few days, but of course those who enjoy the casino would have been upset since the casino can't open until the ship leaves US waters. At least the ship embarked from NJ and not Texas, so the bars could have served all kinds of alcohol. (Galveston cruisers who get stuck in port only get to drink specific brands distributed by Texas wholesalers and they get to pay Texas state tax on it until outside the 12 mile limit.)

 

Nothing would have made everyone happy, that's for sure! It seems it was a Lose/Lose situation for everyone except those brave, rare, and intrepid souls who have posted here about making the best of their doomed cruise.

Judy