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Hi guys,

 

Carnival cruiser here looking to book my first cruise on RCCL on the Allure. Every carnival cruise I was allowed to wear nice shorts and shirt in the MDR. Formal nights I would wear khaki pants or nice jeans. I was reading that RCCL doesn't allow shorts at all in the MDR. Is this strictly enforced or can I put on a nice pair of shorts and shoes? I know this may be pushing it but I also wore flip flops every night in the MDR as well on Carnival. Would I get turned away for these things?

 

Thanks.

 

RCCL and Carnival have many things different, including the way the "majority" of passengers follow the dress code. People are turned away all the time on many ships, for wearing shorts, and hats but occasionally some get through. It's not that hard to wear long pants or jeans at dinner with a polo shirt. Flip Flops are for the pool deck, and not dinner. (RCCL has a buffet for that).

 

Carnival does not have a "formal" night. The night implies that you should be dressed up. Jeans are not considered "nice" on formal night, but rather a casual dress. Guys should be wearing a button down shirt and a tie at the very least. However, the majority of passengers do follow a dress code for relaxed "formal" and will wear a jacket or suit. Wearing casual is very uncommon, but of course some will. They are extremely rare sight.

 

My last cruise this happened....A guy shows up for dinner on "formal" night on my cruise wearing shorts. They were politely told that they would need to change clothes. The first words out of their mouths and were extemely loud about it was that on Carnival they allowed it! Now on Carnival, they don't have a "formal" night, so not only was the statement wrong, it showed the person had a complete lack of respect for the others around them.

 

To answer you question, Casual nights are long pants, and shorts and flip flops are not normal or permitted and Formal night is Formal night. Dress nicely.

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Bob

 

Off topic but just where is the Park Cafe located on Allure? I have looked at the deck plans looking for the Park Cafe, just can't seem to find the location. Sailing on her next month and we loved the Park Cafe on Serenade.

 

Thank you

 

Thanks. I see it on the deck plans now.

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I have also saw shirts in MDR on various RC ships. DH always wears long pants, sometimes jeans, but not shorts to dinner. I say to each their own and if someone is wearing shorts in the MDR, it certainly does not ruin my dinner experience, or my cruise. Go neat and clean and if you do wear shorts, be aware you may be told you must change before they allow you to enter. To avoid that situation, wear long pants to dinner then change to shorts after.

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Hi guys,

 

Carnival cruiser here looking to book my first cruise on RCCL on the Allure. Every carnival cruise I was allowed to wear nice shorts and shirt in the MDR. Formal nights I would wear khaki pants or nice jeans. I was reading that RCCL doesn't allow shorts at all in the MDR. Is this strictly enforced or can I put on a nice pair of shorts and shoes? I know this may be pushing it but I also wore flip flops every night in the MDR as well on Carnival. Would I get turned away for these things?

 

Thanks.

 

You know the rules before you go so why try to ignore them, too many do this and Should be REFUSED ENTRY to the MDR, respect those who do follow the Dress Code, there are plenty of other Choices if you wish to wear Shorts and Flip Flops are a DEFINITE No No IMHO.

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You know the rules before you go so why try to ignore them, too many do this and Should be REFUSED ENTRY to the MDR, respect those who do follow the Dress Code, there are plenty of other Choices if you wish to wear Shorts and Flip Flops are a DEFINITE No No IMHO.

 

Your post made me wonder if you feel the Cruise line(s) that are not enforcing the suggested dress guidelines for the MDR in the evening are showing even less respect for those that elect to follow the suggested dress guidelines?

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We wore nice shorts and a polo shirt for dinner on our Majesty cruise in August. I told our waiter we were skipping formal night because My son and I only brought flip flops and shorts for our vacation. Our Head waiter wanted us to come back for formal night and even brought over his boss to convince us it was ok for shorts. We wore shorts the next night and their were plenty of others with shorts on.

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We have seen people in shorts turned away from the dining room a number of times.

 

We have as well, although cruising over here in Europe.

 

When sailing from Dubai the dress code wasn't even the usual 'suggestion'. Fairly sure the cruise compass actually said shorts were forbidden or words to that effect. Certainly no one in shorts in the MDR that cruise and it was hot.

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You know the rules before you go so why try to ignore them, too many do this and Should be REFUSED ENTRY to the MDR, respect those who do follow the Dress Code, there are plenty of other Choices if you wish to wear Shorts and Flip Flops are a DEFINITE No No IMHO.

 

The all caps part don't make it seem like it's your "humble opinion"! Makes it sound like it's your mandate!

 

I don't wear shorts to dinner in the MDR or specialty restaurants, but I never understand why some people think they need to worry about what others prefer to wear. Reminds me years ago of all of the "no jeans" police around here.

 

You're going on a cruise ship where there are thousands of different people from different countries, backgrounds, socioeconomic positions. How does what they wear effect your enjoyment? Not necessarily aiming this at you, but at those in general who seem so offended by it.

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Old time cruiser here and can't understand why some people refuse to get in the spirit of the things and dress up for 2 lousy nights, what are you going to do,turn into a pumpkin if you do? It's nuts to see at one table passengers dressed to the nines with tuxedos and nice gowns and one table over are people dressed in shorts and flip flops. If the dress code is not to be enforced, then just do away with formal nights, makes no sense. Holland America of all lines surprisingly has done away with formal nights and now call them Gala Nights.

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Been on allure a couple of times. Recently been on harmony. The dress code is always "suggested". We saw plenty of people in shorts in the MDR Never seen anyone turned away. It isn't a rule, it's a suggestion lol. I've even seen shorts on formal night. Can't say I've definitely seen flip flops. We love to dress for dinner regardless of the venue, we just enjoy it. But it's your vacation. Wear what you like

 

 

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Old time cruiser here and can't understand why some people refuse to get in the spirit of the things and dress up for 2 lousy nights, what are you going to do,turn into a pumpkin if you do? It's nuts to see at one table passengers dressed to the nines with tuxedos and nice gowns and one table over are people dressed in shorts and flip flops. If the dress code is not to be enforced, then just do away with formal nights, makes no sense. Holland America of all lines surprisingly has done away with formal nights and now call them Gala Nights.

 

I think it has more to do with limited time. We dressed up but SO had to wash hair, dry, do other things... SO said it wasted more shopping time in port. We felt rushed.... but made it, barely...

 

We were doing things we enjoyed... either on ship or in port.. it cut two hours off our fun time.... that is why. Maybe some sit in their cabin and post pictures of current cruise and food porn... we pay to enjoy ourselves. And we try... I was only in our group of 11 that wore a suit both formal nights... I did it to make John happy and prove I am not a total dud..... LOL

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Old time cruiser here and can't understand why some people refuse to get in the spirit of the things and dress up for 2 lousy nights, what are you going to do,turn into a pumpkin if you do? It's nuts to see at one table passengers dressed to the nines with tuxedos and nice gowns and one table over are people dressed in shorts and flip flops. If the dress code is not to be enforced, then just do away with formal nights, makes no sense. Holland America of all lines surprisingly has done away with formal nights and now call them Gala Nights.

 

Celebrity no longer has formal evenings. Now they call it evening chic. We believe it's a great move because those that don't want to dress formally don't need to and those that still want to can. Simple. We still elect to dress formal when we Cruise with Celebrity. Even if we were the only two on the whole ship that did, so be it. However we always wear shorts the first evening of the Cruise and we always have our luggage, unpacked and hung up.

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Why do many men on vacation no longer want to wear long pants? My upper class brother is one. However, he would never suggest to wear shorts to a business lunch with a customer. If you want to be comfortable in informal attire, go to the informal venues. Allow those of us who elect to abide by the guidelines enjoy the more elegant atmosphere. All are available. This is like asking will children be allowed in the 16+ areas? Probably no one will say anything but it will make many people uncomfortable. You get your way at the expense of others.

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Why do many men on vacation no longer want to wear long pants? My upper class brother is one. However, he would never suggest to wear shorts to a business lunch with a customer. If you want to be comfortable in informal attire, go to the informal venues. Allow those of us who elect to abide by the guidelines enjoy the more elegant atmosphere. All are available. This is like asking will children be allowed in the 16+ areas? Probably no one will say anything but it will make many people uncomfortable. You get your way at the expense of others.

 

Maybe because he wears pants or suits all other times... comes to vacation and get away from the norm. To enjoy the ports and ship and not to be rushed to dine... maybe he deals with the elegant most of his life and just wants to get away and let his hair down (I wish I had hair to let down).

 

I wear long pants and collared shirts into MDR dinner but would love if it was more relaxed.

 

Not really a good comparison.... so you are saying, those that don't wear these daily dress codes want everyone else to get fancy, for what reason? Because one doesn't have a job that suits and ties is required and this is your only time to wear such attire... then I say wear a Suit and Tie... but don't judge those that don't

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We have as well, although cruising over here in Europe.

 

When sailing from Dubai the dress code wasn't even the usual 'suggestion'. Fairly sure the cruise compass actually said shorts were forbidden or words to that effect. Certainly no one in shorts in the MDR that cruise and it was hot.

 

The part about no shorts and flip flops is always phrased that way. It says directly shorts are only allowed at lunch.

 

The 'suggestion' part is about formal/casual - formal is not required and you can be dressier than casual if you want! The problem is that staff often don't enforce the stated minimum standard as they don't want guests to cause a scene or remove gratuities.

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Living in South Florida, we see people (men) wearing shorts to nice restaurants all the time. I find it strange myself, but I am used to it and it clearly does have to do with the tropical vacation mentality...people just don't want to be dressed up when they are in that mode.

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The part about no shorts and flip flops is always phrased that way. It says directly shorts are only allowed at lunch.

 

The 'suggestion' part is about formal/casual - formal is not required and you can be dressier than casual if you want! The problem is that staff often don't enforce the stated minimum standard as they don't want guests to cause a scene or remove gratuities.

 

Shorts are acceptable in the MDR for breakfast also.

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Maybe because he wears pants or suits all other times... comes to vacation and get away from the norm. To enjoy the ports and ship and not to be rushed to dine... maybe he deals with the elegant most of his life and just wants to get away and let his hair down (I wish I had hair to let down).

 

I wear long pants and collared shirts into MDR dinner but would love if it was more relaxed.

 

Not really a good comparison.... so you are saying, those that don't wear these daily dress codes want everyone else to get fancy, for what reason? Because one doesn't have a job that suits and ties is required and this is your only time to wear such attire... then I say wear a Suit and Tie... but don't judge those that don't

Well, if you want to get really comfortable, why not go nude? Really, that is the reasoning? You dress up everyday. At least it isn't that one is too poor to buy long pants or too big to find his size. If there are guidelines one knows ahead of time what they are one can decide where to vacation.

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Well, if you want to get really comfortable, why not go nude? Really, that is the reasoning? You dress up everyday. At least it isn't that one is too poor to buy long pants or too big to find his size. If there are guidelines one knows ahead of time what they are one can decide where to vacation.

 

Well, it is kind of illegal to dine nude...but as long as we are appointing ourselves as the dress code police...can I be the one who gets to decide who should dine nude?

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Well, if you want to get really comfortable, why not go nude? Really, that is the reasoning? You dress up everyday. At least it isn't that one is too poor to buy long pants or too big to find his size. If there are guidelines one knows ahead of time what they are one can decide where to vacation.

 

The guidelines are actually suggestions. On all royal ships the evening dress is suggested.

 

see:

Freedom OTS, September 2016: http://www.******************.com/cruise-compasses/freedom-of-the-seas/sun-2016-09-25-0000 edit: apparently I can't link that URL...just shoes suggested dress code as opposed to required

 

Vision OTS, January 2015: http://www.cruisewithgambee.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Royal-Caribbean-Vision-of-the-Seas-Compass-5.jpg

 

etc etc.

 

its been this way for several years. We personally still dress up for formal night and at least put on khakis and polos for casual nights, but it is definitely becoming less and less common to wear a suit for formal nights and decent clothes all other nights.

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