Milwaukee Eight Posted July 12, 2017 #251 Share Posted July 12, 2017 I think of a backup cruise as one that you would actually take if Royal cancelled another, i.e. with a preferred stateroom, such as a corner aft. A placeholder is a cruise not intended to be taken, but made to create a booking with OBC to be changed later, no special stateroom chosen. Both have OBC, but I would think that the backup cruises in GS and better staterooms would decline with the new NRD policy. In both cases you mention above, doesn't it remove the cabins from further booking? What about booking a higher level cabin to get bigger OBC and later changing/down grading to a less expensive option. You think the new NRD will prevent this? Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted July 12, 2017 #252 Share Posted July 12, 2017 In both cases you mention above, doesn't it remove the cabins from further booking? Correct, that's why I'd rather see them offer the Next Cruise certificate with the same OBC as booking specific cruises, the way it used to be. What about booking a higher level cabin to get bigger OBC and later changing/down grading to a less expensive option. You think the new NRD will prevent this? Don't know about that yet. Waiting for Ellen to test that.:D See RED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slyster Posted July 12, 2017 #253 Share Posted July 12, 2017 How does it work when you cancel and rebook under the same booking #? Is that considered a "cancellation" or do you get to keep your deposit because you keep the same booking #? We cancelled our Alaska cruise for this summer and rebooked it for a NE/Canada cruise. I noticed we kept the same booking #. I have actually done that with a couple of cruises. I have never just cancelled and gotten a refund. I just transfer it to a new booking. How would the new rules apply to that situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molly361 Posted July 12, 2017 #254 Share Posted July 12, 2017 It is going to have to be a pretty good price difference for me to try NRD and so far none of my bookings are worth changing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted July 12, 2017 #255 Share Posted July 12, 2017 How does it work when you cancel and rebook under the same booking #? Is that considered a "cancellation" or do you get to keep your deposit because you keep the same booking #? We cancelled our Alaska cruise for this summer and rebooked it for a NE/Canada cruise. I noticed we kept the same booking #. I have actually done that with a couple of cruises. I have never just cancelled and gotten a refund. I just transfer it to a new booking. How would the new rules apply to that situation? You didn't cancel, you just "changed" the booking. You could do the same under an NRD booking, except you would have to pay $100 per person change fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorben-Hendrik Posted July 12, 2017 #256 Share Posted July 12, 2017 So, will these changes cause you to quit booking Backups? Sent from my iPhone using Forums No - I have about 6 placeholders booked.....non of them is cheaper with the NRD option....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted July 12, 2017 #257 Share Posted July 12, 2017 How did you come by that statement? Not working for any of our bookings My other four bookings were not lower priced, but could not resist that 469.00 drop for my 12/2/18 Oasis cruise, and the additional 100.00 OBC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slyster Posted July 12, 2017 #258 Share Posted July 12, 2017 You didn't cancel, you just "changed" the booking. You could do the same under an NRD booking, except you would have to pay $100 per person change fee. ahhhh so the $100 per change fee is new. I didn't realize that part. Thank you Bob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobgp Posted July 12, 2017 #259 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Well I think I understand the non-refundable deposit however, I do have a question. A few days ago I pushed my sailing out for another year. I had booked with a next cruise certificate which gave me a $100 on board credit. The new booking was under the non-refundable program. I received a $100 credit for going the non-refundable route but my TA says I lost my $100 OBC from the next cruise certificate because I made this change after July 1st. Does this seem to make sense or am I being told misinformation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted July 12, 2017 #260 Share Posted July 12, 2017 ahhhh so the $100 per change fee is new. I didn't realize that part. Thank you Bob. Yes, but only with non-refundable deposits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted July 12, 2017 #261 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Does this seem to make sense or am I being told misinformation? Hard to say as RCI could just be making up the rules after this July 1 change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molly361 Posted July 12, 2017 #262 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Well I think I understand the non-refundable deposit however, I do have a question. A few days ago I pushed my sailing out for another year. I had booked with a next cruise certificate which gave me a $100 on board credit. The new booking was under the non-refundable program. I received a $100 credit for going the non-refundable route but my TA says I lost my $100 OBC from the next cruise certificate because I made this change after July 1st. Does this seem to make sense or am I being told misinformation? Sounds like misinformation to me. You should now have $200 OBC. if you made the booking on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted July 12, 2017 #263 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Hard to say as RCI could just be making up the rules after this July 1 change. Unfortunately, this is believable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted July 12, 2017 #264 Share Posted July 12, 2017 No - I have about 6 placeholders booked.....non of them is cheaper with the NRD option....! How many of these do you plan to use as booked? Were they for a special cabin or Suite? If changed, when do you normally release these and change to another cruise? Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpluvsdolphins Posted July 12, 2017 #265 Share Posted July 12, 2017 All we can do is play the cards Royal deals us. If you are having problems getting a JS on MJ....I suggest booking early as possible to beat demand. Or.....waiting a few days before final payment and pick up the scraps. Sent from my VS995 using Tapatalk The JS's aren't always gone quickly in the summer. On Sunday, 7/9, there were 21 JS's for the 4 night 7/24 Majesty sailing. On Tuesday early morning, there were 17. I was thinking about booking when I got home late Tuesday afternoon, the ship was sold out. I don't know how it happened so quickly, but it did. The Enchantment same cruise has 17 JS's right now. I only want an inside, but since I can't get my 150% single supplement, I probably won't go. I'm hoping it goes down. If not, I'll wait until September for my free casino cruise. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted July 12, 2017 #266 Share Posted July 12, 2017 The JS's aren't always gone quickly in the summer. On Sunday, 7/9, there were 21 JS's for the 4 night 7/24 Majesty sailing. On Tuesday early morning, there were 17. I was thinking about booking when I got home late Tuesday afternoon, the ship was sold out. I don't know how it happened so quickly, but it did. The Enchantment same cruise has 17 JS's right now. I only want an inside, but since I can't get my 150% single supplement, I probably won't go. I'm hoping it goes down. If not, I'll wait until September for my free casino cruise. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Isn't this past final payment (2017)? Start looking around March/April for Summer 3 nights on MJ for all Suites. Some of us can't plan a year out in advance, but when we know schedules, we would like to be able to book them and reserve our time off. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpolm Posted July 12, 2017 #267 Share Posted July 12, 2017 I like this idea somewhat especially when I hear many hold multiple rooms:cruises and then just continually cancel. We always take our cruise. Booked on the ship to get low deposits and obc but had to move out due to change of plans or better pricing. But to hold multiple cruises and then cancel doesn't benefit other travelers. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted July 12, 2017 #268 Share Posted July 12, 2017 We always take our cruise. Booked on the ship to get low deposits and obc but had to move out due to change of plans or better pricing. :confused::rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted July 12, 2017 #269 Share Posted July 12, 2017 I like this idea somewhat especially when I hear many hold multiple rooms:cruises and then just continually cancel. We always take our cruise. Booked on the ship to get low deposits and obc but had to move out due to change of plans or better pricing. But to hold multiple cruises and then cancel doesn't benefit other travelers. Sent from my iPhone using Forums But it benefits them, or it used to. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molly361 Posted July 12, 2017 #270 Share Posted July 12, 2017 I like this idea somewhat especially when I hear many hold multiple rooms:cruises and then just continually cancel. We always take our cruise. Booked on the ship to get low deposits and obc but had to move out due to change of plans or better pricing. But to hold multiple cruises and then cancel doesn't benefit other travelers. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Is that any different from booking 2 cruises and then taking whichever one is priced the best at final payment time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted July 12, 2017 #271 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Is that any different from booking 2 cruises and then taking whichever one is priced the best at final payment time? Is that allowed. :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted July 12, 2017 #272 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Is that any different from booking 2 cruises and then taking whichever one is priced the best at final payment time? Or booking 2 and writing to see how airfare pans out. Sent from my STH100-1 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted July 12, 2017 #273 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Is that any different from booking 2 cruises and then taking whichever one is priced the best at final payment time? Or booking cruises that are most likely to get re-deployed.;p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molly361 Posted July 12, 2017 #274 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Or booking more than one cruise if you have a niece that is going to be getting married in 2019 so you have a spare in case of date conflicts??:halo: With 3 more nieces to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molly361 Posted July 12, 2017 #275 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Is that allowed. :eek: In my world it is. Maybe I will even have to step up my game and book JS (refundable of course:halo:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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