DirtyDawg Posted December 17, 2017 #26 Share Posted December 17, 2017 i suspect he may have made a mistake or two, it is all just water under the gate now.;p lol :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlp20 Posted December 17, 2017 #27 Share Posted December 17, 2017 My question is, just exactly could anyone "hide" a camera in the first place. Because of how cabins are constructed, air ducts are the only possible location. Inoperable means the battery is dead. Last week, last year or three years ago no way of knowing. If I had to bet, I think a spouse was suspicious of a mate cruising solo and hired private investigator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sloopsailor Posted December 17, 2017 #28 Share Posted December 17, 2017 My question is, just exactly could anyone "hide" a camera in the first place. Because of how cabins are constructed, air ducts are the only possible location. Inoperable means the battery is dead. Last week, last year or three years ago no way of knowing. If I had to bet, I think a spouse was suspicious of a mate cruising solo and hired private investigator I think you idea is highly unlikely. That would be an expensive hired investigator, She would have to pay for a cruise for that PI to sit for days doing nothing for her after he set up the camera. And for possibly nothing of value recorded. It is also unlikely that he would have been able to access the room to set it up. It could have been set up by parents to monitor their kids in the next room. A wireless camera could beam the view to a receiver and recorder in the parents room. And with the chaos of packing and leaving the ship, dealing with trying to get the kids to pack their stuff may have distracted them and they forgot to retrieve it. As for the cost, a camera like this can be purchased for less than $30. Not much of a loss if left behind after its use was over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted December 17, 2017 #29 Share Posted December 17, 2017 My question is, just exactly could anyone "hide" a camera in the first place. Because of how cabins are constructed, air ducts are the only possible location. quote] ... I recall,on several ships, there being a mass of wiring just below the TV screen. A small camera could easily be hidden in/behind that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDawg Posted December 17, 2017 #30 Share Posted December 17, 2017 If I had to bet, I think a spouse was suspicious of a mate cruising solo and hired private investigator It could have been set up by parents to monitor their kids in the next room. A wireless camera could beam the view to a receiver and recorder in the parents room. Both very possible explanations. Since we are speculating on who left the camera in the Carnival cabin, with the dead battery, I'm going to go with with Professor Plum - he's absent minded enough to forget his camera. :D Of course it could also have been Inspector Clouseau who was running surveillance on the the Phantom it see if he could recover the Pink Panther.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted December 17, 2017 #31 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Both very possible explanations. Since we are speculating on who left the camera in the Carnival cabin, with the dead battery, I'm going to go with with Professor Plum - he's absent minded enough to forget his camera. :D Of course it could also have been Inspector Clouseau who was running surveillance on the the Phantom it see if he could recover the Pink Panther.:) Surely it is most likely kids on spring break trying to get some revenge porn on their ex-girlfriend and their best mate.:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDawg Posted December 17, 2017 #32 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Surely it is most likely kids on spring break trying to get some revenge porn on their ex-girlfriend and their best mate.:eek: Kids on spring break or a middle aged Australian cruise fanatic.....?:o ;) This thread has convinced this middle aged ++ Canuck to get one of those spy cameras for my next cruise. I will point it out towards the cabin so I can play back where the heck I put stuff the day before. Great device for Senior's moments.:D:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted December 17, 2017 Author #33 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Surely it is most likely kids on spring break trying to get some revenge porn on their ex-girlfriend and their best mate.:eek: Spring Break at Christmas. This ship saills from Miami and it is not spring in North america. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sloopsailor Posted December 17, 2017 #34 Share Posted December 17, 2017 This thread has convinced this middle aged ++ Canuck to get one of those spy cameras for my next cruise. I will point it out towards the cabin so I can play back where the heck I put stuff the day before. Great device for Senior's moments.:D:D I have one attached to a headband for that very reason. I wear it all the time. It even comes in handy to find where I parked my car at the shopping mall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted December 17, 2017 Author #35 Share Posted December 17, 2017 I have one attached to a headband for that very reason. I wear it all the time. It even comes in handy to find where I parked my car at the shopping mall. BEST two Ideas I've heard in ages...... I am constantly playing lost and found. If I put a hand on it there is every chance I will never see it(whatever item I am looking for) again. :) I need a camera tracking my every move for ME t o play back.Why has no senior facility , AARP or creative geriatric MD. started marketing cameras attached to to hats, ball caps, visors, headbands ? Entrpeneurs out there........ This is a sure money maker. (Go on Shark tank) These things would sell themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted December 17, 2017 #36 Share Posted December 17, 2017 BEST two Ideas I've heard in ages...... I am constantly playing lost and found. If I put a hand on it there is every chance I will never see it(whatever item I am looking for) again. :) I need a camera tracking my every move for ME t o play back.Why has no senior facility , AARP or creative geriatric MD. started marketing cameras attached to to hats, ball caps, visors, headbands ? Entrpeneurs out there........ This is a sure money maker. (Go on Shark tank) These things would sell themselves. Great idea - but I would still need some way of being reminded to “go to the videotape”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted December 17, 2017 Author #37 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Great idea - but I would still need some way of being reminded to “go to the videotape”. Speaking for myself, once I started looking for whateever is the lostit iem of the moment, I would go to the tape......... THAT I know i would do as I waste so much time looking in all the wrong places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sloopsailor Posted December 17, 2017 #38 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Speaking for myself, once I started looking for whateever is the lostit iem of the moment, I would go to the tape......... THAT I know i would do as I waste so much time looking in all the wrong places. Do you experience like me that whenever I find something, it's ALWAYS in the last place I look! :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruzaholic41 Posted December 17, 2017 #39 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Spring Break at Christmas. This ship saills from Miami and it is not spring in North america. The Carnival Fantasy sails out of Mobile, and this occurred in October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted December 18, 2017 #40 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Spring Break at Christmas. This ship saills from Miami and it is not spring in North america. It was found in October which was some time (no one knows how long ago) after it was installed which could have been spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted December 18, 2017 #41 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Kids on spring break or a middle aged Australian cruise fanatic.....?:o ;) This thread has convinced this middle aged ++ Canuck to get one of those spy cameras for my next cruise. I will point it out towards the cabin so I can play back where the heck I put stuff the day before. Great device for Senior's moments.:D:D Perhaps that is why they did it but forgot the camera anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted December 18, 2017 #42 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Two things alarm me here. One, we have no idea who installed this camera. Most people seem to think it was a passenger but I find it odd that a passenger would know exactly what cabling/wiring to bring in order to hook it up to the stateroom tv power supply and broadcast to the ship's wifi. Personally, I think its more likely this was someone on the ship. I also think CCL feels that way based on their silence in this matter. The second thing is the replies on the CCL board. I can't believe how many people blow this off as either fake news or they don't care if a hidden camera was in their room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare sparks1093 Posted December 18, 2017 #43 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Two things alarm me here. One, we have no idea who installed this camera. Most people seem to think it was a passenger but I find it odd that a passenger would know exactly what cabling/wiring to bring in order to hook it up to the stateroom tv power supply and broadcast to the ship's wifi. Personally, I think its more likely this was someone on the ship. I also think CCL feels that way based on their silence in this matter. The second thing is the replies on the CCL board. I can't believe how many people blow this off as either fake news or they don't care if a hidden camera was in their room. I think part of what's driving the "I don't care" posts is that our society is too used to cameras being everywhere. Surveillance is such a big thing that we don't even notice it any longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDawg Posted December 18, 2017 #44 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Perhaps that is why they did it but forgot the camera anyway. :confused::confused: So that means I'll have to bring a second camera to record me placing the first camera so I don't forget the first camera. Got it. Of course, how the hell am I going to remember I brought the second camera? ........... Camera # 3 of course! God, I sure hope Costco sells multi packs of these cameras.:D Darn it, where is that Costco again? :confused::confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sloopsailor Posted December 18, 2017 #45 Share Posted December 18, 2017 (edited) Two things alarm me here. One, we have no idea who installed this camera.Most people seem to think it was a passenger but I find it odd that a passenger would know exactly what cabling/wiring to bring in order to hook it up to the stateroom tv power supply and broadcast to the ship's wifi. Personally, I think its more likely this was someone on the ship. I also think CCL feels that way based on their silence in this matter. The second thing is the replies on the CCL board. I can't believe how many people blow this off as either fake news or they don't care if a hidden camera was in their room. It doesn't need to be Wi-Fi like on your phone. It could be a wireless camera and receiver pair that comes set on it's own frequency. These have been available for over twenty years, long before Wi-Fi as we know it became common. The wireless camera only needs power. That is no more difficult than plugging in your toaster. A receiver is needed to view the image. Again, all it needs is power from a cord. A cable to the TV or recorder is the only other wiring necessary. I used one many years ago to monitor a play area for my pets. It was pretty easy to set up. At the receiving end, I simply connected the video cable to the TV's input fitting so I could keep an eye on the pets. Anyone with experience on how to plug in a lamp cord can set these up. Edited December 18, 2017 by sloopsailor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare whogo Posted December 18, 2017 #46 Share Posted December 18, 2017 My guess is a past passenger put it there to keep an eye on the steward and forgot it behind.My first suspect, if I were investigating the case, would be the person who found the camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted December 18, 2017 #47 Share Posted December 18, 2017 It doesn't need to be WI-FI like on your phone. It could be a wireless camera setup on it's own frequency. These have been available for over twenty years, long before WI-FI as we know it became common. The wireless camera only needs power. That is no more difficult than plugging in your toaster. A receiver is needed to view the image. Again, all it needs is power from a cord. A cable to the TV or recorder is the only other wiring necessary. I used one to monitor a play area for my pets. It was pretty easy to set up. At the receiving end, I simply connected the video cable to the TV's input fitting so I could keep an eye on the pets. Anyone with experience on how to plug in a lamp cord can set these up. I agree with the simplicity. I use these cameras in my profession. But the rigging in this case didn't look so simple. I still find it very unlikely that a passenger would set this up and then forget it. I'm not saying it's not possible but all things considered, I think the likelihood is more on a CCL staff member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted December 18, 2017 #48 Share Posted December 18, 2017 I would tend to agree that it was a staff member on the ship, I find it incredible that the room stewards didn't find it, or more likely the case, knew it was there but didn't think it was reportable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted December 21, 2017 Author #49 Share Posted December 21, 2017 My question is, just exactly could anyone "hide" a camera in the first place. Because of how cabins are constructed, air ducts are the only possible location. Inoperable means the battery is dead. Last week, last year or three years ago no way of knowing. If I had to bet, I think a spouse was suspicious of a mate cruising solo and hired private investigator I am still unsure how muc h of the report to accept as true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldubs Posted December 21, 2017 #50 Share Posted December 21, 2017 I am still unsure how muc h of the report to accept as true. I'm kind of leaning this way too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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