navybankerteacher Posted January 3, 2018 #226 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I got the impression that some people think the late-luggage potential means that shorts on the first night is ok for everyone. I don't think there would be nearly as much debate if there was agreement that this is an exception that only applies when the luggage is late. ... ). The fact is that, once exceptions are made, it is proven that shorts on some people do not impact the dinners of others. Exceptions to rules prove the flexibility of those rules. Flexible rules are impossible to objectively enforce. It is time to accept the reality: there is NO dress code - and very little expressed desire for there to be a dress code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzardboy Posted January 3, 2018 #227 Share Posted January 3, 2018 You can wear a tutu with swim fins in the Lido. Whether you can't or won't abide by the MDR dress code, dumbed down as it has become, go to the Lido and enjoy your meal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted January 3, 2018 #228 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Are gang bangers a problem on HAL ships? I know there are different embarkation ports; if in Alaska or a cold city in Europe, I'd be wearing pants or jeans. But if I board in Fort Lauderdale, I am wearing shorts and boat shoes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted January 3, 2018 #229 Share Posted January 3, 2018 You can wear a tutu with swim fins in the Lido. Whether you can't or won't abide by the MDR dress code, dumbed down as it has become, go to the Lido and enjoy your meal. I guess we found the one that thinks if your luggage is late you should be denied what you paid for, am I reading this accurately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzardboy Posted January 3, 2018 #230 Share Posted January 3, 2018 For sure it started as an exception to the rule, but has become more of a 'defacto' trend (please no freaking out here) . Hence the discussion as to its general appropriateness on day 1 MDR. You're right on about the sagging, that seems likes a gang-banger type of fashion thing that is comical to me, but it pretty common both in inner city, suburban and even rural America. I'd guess most people wouldn't want to see sagging long short pants with exposed Calvin Kleins in the first night MDR. Give me the view of the CK boxers over a "commando" plumber any day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublebzz Posted January 3, 2018 #231 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I guess we found the one that thinks if your luggage is late you should be denied what you paid for, am I reading this accurately? It is Page 12, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzardboy Posted January 3, 2018 #232 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I guess we found the one that thinks if your luggage is late you should be denied what you paid for, am I reading this accurately? I was stirring up the mud a little, but in a word, yes. We often choose to eat at the Canaletto the first night if we traveled that day, because the jeans I travel in don't belong in the MDR, and I don't feel like changing. The point is, there are excellent alternatives that don't require exceptions to the rules. If I'm not mistaken, the Lido is also included in your fare so you'd have a casual dining alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted January 3, 2018 #233 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I guess we found the one that thinks if your luggage is late you should be denied what you paid for, am I reading this accurately? Actually "what you paid for" is a meal ---- not necessarily a meal wherever you want to eat it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted January 3, 2018 #234 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Could, but won't. I was a child model. I like wearing a sport coat but my wife hates it. I wouldn't board a ship wearing a sport jacket though. If my luggage didn't turn up neither would the coat. .../ quote] Funny - I always board a ship wearing a blazer -,a great way to have the option of wearing a jacket while on board without having to use up packing space; and a convenient way of having pockets for carrying cruise documents and other small stuff I travel with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted January 3, 2018 #235 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I guess we found the one that thinks if your luggage is late you should be denied what you paid for, am I reading this accurately? Does it occur to you that, if there were a dress code which did not permit shorts in the MDR, that your wearing shorts (regardless of your reason) would be effectively denying other passengers what they had paid for: dinner in a dining too with such a dress code? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea girl 23 Posted January 3, 2018 #236 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Actually, right now with Florida having cold(for them) weather pants seem like a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted January 3, 2018 #237 Share Posted January 3, 2018 So 246 posts into this thread, has anyone been successful at changing anyone else's mind on this subject? Of course, I'm only referring to the opinions expressed, not the actual fact of whether or not HAL allows shorts on night 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SetAnOpenCourse Posted January 3, 2018 #238 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Are gang bangers a problem on HAL ships? I know there are different embarkation ports; if in Alaska or a cold city in Europe, I'd be wearing pants or jeans. But if I board in Fort Lauderdale, I am wearing shorts and boat shoes. I only observed sagging one time on a HAL cruise. It was serious sagging (quite low), but that part of my post was attempted humor. I doubt that there will ever be any real gang interest in cruising. Any sagging on board would likely be just a sad fashion statement (i.e., not indicative of jail time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketMan275 Posted January 3, 2018 #239 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Actually "what you paid for" is a meal ---- not necessarily a meal wherever you want to eat it. Have you paid for a "shorts" or "jeans" free meal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosaic Posted January 3, 2018 #240 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Does it occur to you that, if there were a dress code which did not permit shorts in the MDR, that your wearing shorts (regardless of your reason) would be effectively denying other passengers what they had paid for: dinner in a dining too with such a dress code? Yes it has. You cannot go Naked either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosaic Posted January 3, 2018 #241 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Well, except for special cruises... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted January 3, 2018 #242 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Have you paid for a "shorts" or "jeans" free meal? No, I have not - because I realize that there really is NO dress code - because of so many exceptions. But a passenger who paid his fare believing, from promotional materials, that there was a ban on shorts in the MDR would have paid for a shorts free meal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epicureangirl Posted January 4, 2018 #243 Share Posted January 4, 2018 It is Page 12, isn't it? This debate is still going on? [emoji23] I must admit, the photos of dress-shorts are getting pretty interesting... Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epicureangirl Posted January 4, 2018 #244 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Yes it has. You cannot go Naked either. Please don’t post any photos to illustrate... [emoji23] Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare *Miss G* Posted January 4, 2018 #245 Share Posted January 4, 2018 I just found this option........thank you! I made my "ignore" list and I expect that my new version of Cruise Critic will be so much nicer! Testing. Test. Test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare *Miss G* Posted January 4, 2018 #246 Share Posted January 4, 2018 You can wear a tutu with swim fins in the Lido. This made me lol. Do you know this from experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare *Miss G* Posted January 4, 2018 #247 Share Posted January 4, 2018 So 246 posts into this thread, has anyone been successful at changing anyone else's mind on this subject? Of course, I'm only referring to the opinions expressed, not the actual fact of whether or not HAL allows shorts on night 1. Wait a minute. Your post is # 237 for me. *blink* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestyling Posted January 4, 2018 #248 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Wait a minute. Your post is # 237 for me. *blink* Oh boy...now we’re bringing math into the equation ;p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epicureangirl Posted January 4, 2018 #249 Share Posted January 4, 2018 So 246 posts into this thread, has anyone been successful at changing anyone else's mind on this subject? Of course, I'm only referring to the opinions expressed, not the actual fact of whether or not HAL allows shorts on night 1. Yes, actually Navybankerteacher has swayed me. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KroozNut Posted January 4, 2018 #250 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Oh boy...now we’re bringing math into the equation ;p Was the 'math' / 'equation' word association in your post an intended or unintended pun... Lol! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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