Bevr88 Posted August 20, 2018 #1 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Are we able to relive the daily tips/service charge from your account and tip who we want to? Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bevr88 Posted August 20, 2018 Author #2 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Sorry should have said “remove” tips Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Ting Posted August 20, 2018 #3 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Sorry should have said “remove” tips Sent from my iPhone using Forums Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare fabnfortysomething Posted August 20, 2018 #4 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Sorry should have said “remove” tips Sent from my iPhone using Forums if you have booked all inclusive in UK gratuities are included Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Wheels Only Posted August 20, 2018 #5 Share Posted August 20, 2018 if you have booked all inclusive in UK gratuities are included If they booked all inclusive in the UK, they won't see a DSC but they also cannot remove the amount of what the DSC would be for others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare fabnfortysomething Posted August 20, 2018 #6 Share Posted August 20, 2018 If they booked all inclusive in the UK, they won't see a DSC but they also cannot remove the amount of what the DSC would be for others. exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BirdTravels Posted August 20, 2018 #7 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Are we able to relive the daily tips/service charge from your account and tip who we want to? Whilst American have additional service charges added to their onboard account, if the service is already included in your fare, there is nothing to remove. Americans can pay the daily service charge, then request a refund after the cruise is complete. By removing the daily service charge, some of the hard working crew members that are helping to make your cruise experience excellent get cheated. Best to leave it alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bevr88 Posted August 20, 2018 Author #8 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Wish I’d never asked the question. I prefer to tip staff individually Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erdoran Posted August 20, 2018 #9 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Bevr88, this is a hot button for many on these forums. let me answer your question more. Since it appears you are from the UK, people say that your DSC is non-optional and included in your fare. No one will stop you from adding extra tips but that's not what you are asking, I'm sure. I struggled with the whole DSC and drove folks here crazy helping me sort it out. I'm another one who would prefer to tip directly, but I've come around to the DSC, and while not embracing it, at least "get it". The deal on the DSC is (my personal interpretation) that it all goes into one big pot that ultimately goes to NCL DSC-receiving crew. Of course, the size of that pot depends on people paying their DSC. Fewer DSC payments, smaller pot. Crew get their share based on performance and a bunch of criteria that aren't public. And the problem is that crew you never see also get a share of the pot. This bugs me because I've never before heard of tipping laundry staff, kitchen staff, etc - but that's how it is. There are some who say that if you remove DSC and tip directly, those workers are required to turn in their tip to NCL. It's also been said that if you pay your DSC and tip extra, crew get to keep the extra. So the above is supposition and interpretation but I think it's reasonable. Some folks here get really nasty about people who want to tip directly and remove DSC. Please guys, just take the question at face value - assume OP is legit and fully intends to tip. No need to flame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Wheels Only Posted August 20, 2018 #10 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Wish I’d never asked the question. I prefer to tip staff individually You can always tip individually no matter where you are from. If you do not see a DSC, you cannot remove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casofilia Posted August 20, 2018 #11 Share Posted August 20, 2018 How do you tip those who do your laundry so beautifully? How do you tip the kitchen staff who prepare your wonderful food? Do you tip every waiters and assistant waiters who helps you at every meal? Those are the people who benefit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLH Arizona Posted August 20, 2018 #12 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Are we able to relive the daily tips/service charge from your account and tip who we want to? Sent from my iPhone using Forums If you booked through UK NCL site or UK Travel Agent, the answer is no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erdoran Posted August 20, 2018 #13 Share Posted August 20, 2018 How do you tip those who do your laundry so beautifully? How do you tip the kitchen staff who prepare your wonderful food? Do you tip every waiters and assistant waiters who helps you at every meal? Those are the people who benefit. Mike, and it is exactly this point that ticks people off - in NO OTHER scenario other than cruising is there an expectation to tip the kitchen workers and laundry workers for doing their jobs. They certainly do the laundry, but "beautifully"? The towels and linens are clean. The steward makes the towel animals. "Wonderful food" is a matter of opinion and taste. No hotel guests feel compelled to visit the laundry room or kitchen and hand out tips - it's the cleaning person, wait staff, bell staff, concierge, and possibly front desk person and bar staff who one would tip, at least in the US. What it comes down to is the "social contract" the cruise industry has pushed on the pax, and the inclusion of the kitchen, laundry, and other non one to one workers in the DSC pool so that pax can't allocate their DSC to choose the staff to reward without "punishing" (not my words) the rest of the staff that we don't have an opportunity to tip directly (or wouldn't think to tip directly either). It's very, very effective in getting pax to "tip" or contribute to salary at a much higher rate than they would ordinarily do. Whether or not you agree, it is part of cruising...and that's why people here get so passionate about not removing DSC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got No Real Name Posted August 20, 2018 #14 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Are we able to relive the daily tips/service charge from your account and tip who we want to? Sent from my iPhone using Forums You can always tip whoever you want. The DSC is irrelevant to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got No Real Name Posted August 20, 2018 #15 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Why would you do that? So you can tip less? Sent from my iPhone using Forums Tips are 100% optional and you can tip whomever you want, however much you want, at any time you want. If you buy the dining or drink package 20% is added for tips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got No Real Name Posted August 20, 2018 #16 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Wish I’d never asked the question. I prefer to tip staff individually Sent from my iPhone using Forums Then do that. The DSC is a different matter and paying that in no way prohibits your from choosing to tip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
em-sk Posted August 20, 2018 #17 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Tipping is one of the silliest concepts, unfortunately it is the norm in North America (and like most North Americans I do tip as appropriate, that does not mean I like it). I much prefer the position that exists in many other parts of the world that basically amounts to managed is expected to manage their business and the customer experience. If I am not happy with service I complain to management, it is not my role to manage the performance of front line staff and I am not in a position to know if a customer service failure is associated with front line staff member or something else in the back of the house. In that sense I think the DSC is excellent. Don't look at as a tip, it is simply part of the cost of cruise that happens to be collected on a daily basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PATRLR Posted August 20, 2018 #18 Share Posted August 20, 2018 In that sense I think the DSC is excellent. Don't look at as a tip, it is simply part of the cost of cruise that happens to be collected on a daily basis.If you look at it that way, it's only a matter of time before we're expected to hand out envelopes at the end of the cruise again. The DSC replaces that practice and in that sense it is a tip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hladygirl Posted August 20, 2018 #19 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I look at it this way. For our next cruise that is two weeks we have paid $800 in dsc,ubp gratuities and udp gratuities. That is a lot of tipping. If we stayed in a hotel for two weeks we would not have payed that much tipping. For that reason I usually don’t tip anymore than that on the cruise. I feel I have already paid my fair share of tips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmexicoNita Posted August 21, 2018 #20 Share Posted August 21, 2018 (edited) Are we able to relive the daily tips/service charge from your account and tip who we want to? Sent from my iPhone using Forums you can and this question comes up every week it seems. Just check and you will see pages on this very topic. I will add, it isn't as easy as you might think. You have to request the DSC be removed, the cruise line will then give you the money back or have it removed from you CC but it can take weeks. I hop you also realize the DSC does not only go to those who personally serve you but people behind the scenes. Please do not even consider doing this :loudcry: and for those who say if they were on a land vacation they would not be tipping this much: figure it out and you may be surprised. I have done the paper work, and it isn't as bad as some may thing, not to mention there are so many people the DSC benefits from : those who work behind the scenes for starters. Edited August 21, 2018 by newmexicoNita Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmexicoNita Posted August 21, 2018 #21 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Bevr88, this is a hot button for many on these forums. let me answer your question more. Since it appears you are from the UK, people say that your DSC is non-optional and included in your fare. No one will stop you from adding extra tips but that's not what you are asking, I'm sure. I struggled with the whole DSC and drove folks here crazy helping me sort it out. I'm another one who would prefer to tip directly, but I've come around to the DSC, and while not embracing it, at least "get it". The deal on the DSC is (my personal interpretation) that it all goes into one big pot that ultimately goes to NCL DSC-receiving crew. Of course, the size of that pot depends on people paying their DSC. Fewer DSC payments, smaller pot. Crew get their share based on performance and a bunch of criteria that aren't public. And the problem is that crew you never see also get a share of the pot. This bugs me because I've never before heard of tipping laundry staff, kitchen staff, etc - but that's how it is. There are some who say that if you remove DSC and tip directly, those workers are required to turn in their tip to NCL. It's also been said that if you pay your DSC and tip extra, crew get to keep the extra. So the above is supposition and interpretation but I think it's reasonable. Some folks here get really nasty about people who want to tip directly and remove DSC. Please guys, just take the question at face value - assume OP is legit and fully intends to tip. No need to flame. and there are reasons some get nasty. We all can pretty well figure out why someone would want to remove the DSC. this tipping individually crap is just that: Crap!!! They don't want to tip the required amount. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got No Real Name Posted August 21, 2018 #22 Share Posted August 21, 2018 I look at it this way. For our next cruise that is two weeks we have paid $800 in dsc,ubp gratuities and udp gratuities. That is a lot of tipping. If we stayed in a hotel for two weeks we would not have payed that much tipping. For that reason I usually don’t tip anymore than that on the cruise. I feel I have already paid my fair share of tips. And if stayed home for two weeks you would not tip either. Neither situation is relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaWBarmy Posted August 21, 2018 #23 Share Posted August 21, 2018 As a UK guest paying a Premium All inclusive price the DSC no longer exists. You pay a fare. How NCL decide to apportion that fare is entirely their business. You pay a fare and that fare includes what used to be the DSC, it also includes something that may be construed as the UBP and its associated gratuities and it also includes your stateroom, some internet time and a bottled water package. None of these are priced individually within your fare, they are included within the whole fare. So as for removing the DSC under Premium All inclusive? Probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Ting Posted August 21, 2018 #24 Share Posted August 21, 2018 and there are reasons some get nasty. We all can pretty well figure out why someone would want to remove the DSC. this tipping individually crap is just that: Crap!!! They don't want to tip the required amount. :rolleyes: There is no required amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravenjls Posted August 21, 2018 #25 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Just curious -- if all tips etc are wrapped into the UK fare, how about those staying in the haven/suites. Are the butler/concierge tips included in the wrapped up fare? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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