Tatka Posted July 12, 2019 #51 Share Posted July 12, 2019 13 hours ago, gold1953 said: Agree .. a great gift is to keep your cabin tidy so they can quickly do the cleaning and not need to fold your clothes and put cosmetics away nor move your mess form the counter. If you hire a cleaning service at home the rules state that surfaces must be clear. I have seen a lot of messes through open cabin doors. I can imagine living a mess for steward to clean. It is enough that he/she cleans my bathroom.... and makes my bed (which is also not a mess, but still). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hubofhockey Posted July 12, 2019 #52 Share Posted July 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, Tatka said: Again... it is not instead of tips. And... I think most people would prefer just cash for birthdays instead of gifts, but we do not choose what people give us as gifts. I fully understand that it's not instead of tips. It's additional. Give cash instead of candy. If I'm in a restaurant and someone truly gives me outstanding service, I'm not leaving them a standard tip and some candy. I'm increasing the tip. That's what service people appreciate. All will smile and thank you for everything, but that's to make you happy. People go on these cruises and believe they develop real relationships with cabin stewards and do these things, which I consider insulting. I do give them something, however, that might remind them of the hottest show on Broadway. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bEwAbG Posted July 12, 2019 #53 Share Posted July 12, 2019 This reminds me that my dog sitter once handed me a pie that was given to him by another client. I was all "***** am I supposed to do with a re-gifted pie from a stranger?!?" He laughed and said "why did a near-stranger think I wanted one??? I'm diabetic!" I also remember early on in my career I noticed my boss would never eat the pecan bars a certain employee always brought to the office potlucks. I finally asked why and he quietly said "well, she has lots of cats" about the time a coworker fished a little hair out of her mouth after taking a bite. Some things should just stay in your own home, however well-intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helen haywood Posted July 12, 2019 #54 Share Posted July 12, 2019 22 hours ago, Mynki said: This is true. Last cruise we were told by our Blu maitre 'd, waiter and our sommelier om three separate occasions that changes have been made to how their performance is assessed. Only a 9 or 10 rating on the feedback questionnaire will do them any favours now. A score of 8 or below will not help them in any way. Those who achieve the best ratings do have a better chance of promotion and do accrue more time off. But do we really know that is so? I know the staff tells you that..but there is no way to find out if a “10” helped them get a promotion. I cynically believe Celebrity uses all those “10” surveys as a marketing/advertising tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mynki Posted July 12, 2019 #55 Share Posted July 12, 2019 51 minutes ago, helen haywood said: But do we really know that is so? I know the staff tells you that..but there is no way to find out if a “10” helped them get a promotion. I cynically believe Celebrity uses all those “10” surveys as a marketing/advertising tool. It is of course possible that the Blu team onboard Silhouette conspired to tell this story in an attempt to improve their performance ratings. So, we'll probably never know for sure if it's true. However if they have then they were very convincing. On previous cruises staff have both upped their game and reminded us of the surveys often. But they've never really gone into any detail. The sommelier and head waiter told us the same thing, that there had been changed. Then on an occasion where I went to compliment the maitre 'd on their service I was also told exactly the same thing. So they could by lying. It could be a marketing ploy by Celebrity. But I do believe them. People should score them honestly regardless though. I'd only ever give a 9 or 10 if I truly believed it was deserved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatka Posted July 12, 2019 #56 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, hubofhockey said: I fully understand that it's not instead of tips. It's additional. Give cash instead of candy. If I'm in a restaurant and someone truly gives me outstanding service, I'm not leaving them a standard tip and some candy. I'm increasing the tip. That's what service people appreciate. All will smile and thank you for everything, but that's to make you happy. People go on these cruises and believe they develop real relationships with cabin stewards and do these things, which I consider insulting. I do give them something, however, that might remind them of the hottest show on Broadway. I am not sure since when candy became insulting? I was given candy (although nice packs) as a gift when I was a teacher. I never felt insulted. Does not mean I liked all of them, but if I did not liked them, I did not use them. Would I prefer money? I don't know... it's not up to me. Although now when I re-red the name of this topic " Additional Non-Monetary tips Gifts should not be called "tips". As for me .. I don't try to develop any relationships with serving us crew. Edited July 12, 2019 by Tatka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgmigs Posted July 12, 2019 #57 Share Posted July 12, 2019 They don’t want your candy or trinkets!!! Would you want your boss giving you candy to acknowledge you at work? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatka Posted July 12, 2019 #58 Share Posted July 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, mgmigs said: They don’t want your candy or trinkets!!! Would you want your boss giving you candy to acknowledge you at work? My boss (I am in IT) actually did . Not instead of paycheck or bonus, but as a personal gift. Should have I throw a fit and ask for money? 🙂 This is a very strange discussion. Not everything is about money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatka Posted July 12, 2019 #59 Share Posted July 12, 2019 I guess everybody is forgetting that we are paying auto gratuities. Technically this is what expected (we won't discuss this system even if it is not perfect, but it is what it is) Everything above is at our pure discretion. Many people do give additional tip for above and beyond. Then gifts if they feel like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgmigs Posted July 12, 2019 #60 Share Posted July 12, 2019 29 minutes ago, Tatka said: I don’t know how many rooms each steward manages each cruise, let’s guess it’s possibly 20? Do you think they’d want 20 packages of candy each cruise? That is ridiculous. It is hard enough when they have certain cruise passengers that turn their noses down at the staff, personally I’d find it patronizing if someone gave me candy or other junky trinkets. Nobody wants that. They will just throw that crap out. My boss (I am in IT) actually did . Not instead of paycheck or bonus, but as a personal gift. Should have I throw a fit and ask for money? 🙂 This is a very strange discussion. Not everything is about money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare keesar Posted July 12, 2019 #61 Share Posted July 12, 2019 1 hour ago, mgmigs said: They don’t want your candy or trinkets!!! Would you want your boss giving you candy to acknowledge you at work? How about a fruit cake? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mom says Posted July 12, 2019 #62 Share Posted July 12, 2019 1 hour ago, keesar said: How about a fruit cake? Nobody wants fruitcake- except my Granny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luvcrusn Posted July 12, 2019 #63 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) To each their own. That being said we only give additional cash on top of our prepaid gratuities. The crew can then use it in any way they see fit. If they want to use it for candy fine, if not, we've not limited their choices. Options are wonderful😊 and since the crew members were so wonderful to us and make our vacation memorable, we want to reward them with money (aka options)! Note to OP. How would you like an Eagles helmet if you were a crew member!😜 Edited July 12, 2019 by Luvcrusn Addition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare keesar Posted July 12, 2019 #64 Share Posted July 12, 2019 1 hour ago, mom says said: Nobody wants fruitcake- except my Granny. I bet very few crew members ever got a fruitcake from a guest. Always a first. My Granny actually ate them. Most likely for the rum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mom says Posted July 12, 2019 #65 Share Posted July 12, 2019 My granny preferred the ones soaked in Brandy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrobo Posted July 12, 2019 #66 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) Jimmy knows about "fruitcakes" "You know I was talking to my friend Desdemona the other day sheRuns this space station and bake shop down near Boomtown. She toldMe that human beings are flawed individuals. The cosmic bakersTook us out of the oven a little too early. And that's theReason we're as crazy as we are and I believe it.""Take for example when you go to the movies these days, you know.They try to sell you this jumbo drink, 8 extra ounces of wateredDown cherry coke for an extra 25 cents. I don't want it.I don't want that much organziation in my life.I don't want other people thinking for me.I want my Junior Mints. Where did the Junior Mints go in theMovies. I don't want a 12 lb. Nestle's crunch for 25 dollars. IWant junior mints!""We need more fruitcakes in this world and less bakers!We need people that care! I'm mad as hell! And I don't want toTake it anymore!"Fruitcakes in the kitchen (Fruitcakes in the kitchen)Fruitcakes on the street (Fruitcakes on the street)Struttin' naked through the crosswalkIn the middle of the weekHalf-baked cookies in the oven (Cookies in the oven)Half-baked people on the bus (People on the bus)There's a little bit of fruitcake left in everyone of usParadise, lost and foundParadise, take a look aroundI was out in California where I hear they have it allThey got riots, fires, mud slidesThey've got sushi in the mallWater bars, brontasaurs, Chinese modern lustShake and bake life with the quakeThe secret's in the crustFruitcakes in the kitchen (Fruitcakes in the kitchen)Fruitcakes on the street (Fruitcakes on the street)Struttin' naked through the crosswalkIn the middle of the weekHalf-baked cookies in the oven (Cookies in the oven)Half-baked people on the bus (People on the bus)There's a little bit of fruitcake left in everyone of us"Speakin' of fruitcakes, how 'bout the government?Your tax dollars at work."We lost our Martian rocket shipThe high paid spokesman saidLooks like that silly rocket shipHas lost its cone shaped headWe spent 90 jillion dollars trying to get a look at MarsI hear universal laughter ringing out among the starsFruitcakes in the galaxy (Fruitcakes in the galaxy)Fuitcakes on the earth (Fruitcakes on the earth)Struttin' naked towards eternityWe've been that way since birthHalf-baked cookies in the oven (Cookies in the oven)Half-baked people on the bus (People on the bus)There's a little bit of fruitcake left in everyone of us"Religion! Religion! Oh, there's a thin line between SaturdayNight and Sunday morning. Here we go now.All right, alter boys."Mea Culpa Mea Culpa Mea Maxima CulpaMea Culpa Mea Culpa Mea Maxima CulpaWhere's the church, who took the steepleReligion is in the hands of some crazy-ass peopleTelevision preachers with bad hair and dimplesThe god's honest truth is it's not that simpleIt's the Buddhist in you, it's the Pagan in meIt's the Muslim in him, she's Catholic ain't she?It's the born again look it's the WASP and the JewTell me what's goin' on, I ain't gotta clue"Now here comes the big ones. Relationships! We all got 'em, weAll want 'em. What do we do with 'em?Here we go, I'll tell ya."She said you gotta do your fair shareNow cough up half the rentI treat my body like a templeYou treat yours like a tentBut the right word at the right timeMay get me a little hugThat's the difference between lightningAnd a harmless lightnin' bugFruitcakes in the kitchen (Fruitcakes in the kitchen)Fruitcakes on the street (Fruitcakes on the street)Struttin' naked through the crosswalkIn the middle of the weekHalf-baked cookies in the oven (Cookies in the oven)Half-baked people on the bus (People on the bus)There's a little bit of fruitcake left in everyone of us"The future. Captain's log, stardate two thousand and something."We're seven years from the millenniumThat's a science fiction factStanley Kubrick and his buddy HALNow don't look that abstractSo I'll put on my Bob Marley tapeAnd practice what I preachGet Jah lost in the reggae monAs I walk along the beachStay in touch with my insanity really is the only wayIt's a jungle out there kiddiesHave a very fruitful dayHey.Fruitcakes in the kitchen (Fruitcakes in the kitchen)Fruitcakes on the street (Fruitcakes on the street)Struttin' naked through the crosswalkIn the middle of the weekHalf-baked cookies in the oven (Cookies in the oven)Half-baked people on the bus (People on the bus)There's a little bit of fruitcake left in everyone of us"That's right, you too. Yeah those crumbs are spread all aroundThis universe. I've seen fruitcakes. I saw this guy in SantaMonica rollerskate naked through the crosswalk. Down in NewOrleans in the French market there are fruitcakes like you cannotBelieve. New York, forget it. Fruitcake city. Down island, we've gotFruitcakes. Spread them crumbs around. That's right, we want'Em around. Keep bakin' baby. Keep bakin'." Edited July 12, 2019 by Redrobo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bEwAbG Posted July 12, 2019 #67 Share Posted July 12, 2019 I like fruitcakes. Try some from Collin Street Bakery if you're ever in Texas (they do mail order, too)! I would still not like to receive one as an "additional non-monetary tip" were I a service worker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Cruiser 6143 Posted July 12, 2019 #68 Share Posted July 12, 2019 9 hours ago, helen haywood said: But do we really know that is so? I know the staff tells you that..but there is no way to find out if a “10” helped them get a promotion. I cynically believe Celebrity uses all those “10” surveys as a marketing/advertising tool. How do we know this? By feedback from the employees we rated the next time we encountered them on a cruise and they had been promoted thanks to our rating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Chew Posted July 13, 2019 #69 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Not giving anyone money as a gift on Halloween or Valentines Day!! It'll be candy … money is for tips. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longboysfan Posted July 24, 2019 Author #70 Share Posted July 24, 2019 On 7/11/2019 at 7:16 AM, DirtyDawg said: I just tip extra in cash. Each crew member can then decide for themselves what to do with the cash. They could buy some candy, or a bottle of Whisky, or a phone card to call home, or they could invest in bitcoin. They are all big boys and girls, I let them decide. Crew is not allowed to buy bottles in port or anywhere or bring them onto the ship. I watched the crew come back onto the ship from port. And if you think they check us coming back - their search on the crew is a lot more extensive.. What my intention is / was. To find if there is something the crew would like. Aside from cash. Crew pays full price for candy and 1/2 price for drinks in the crew bar. I asked them this and found out the answer. I'm also not going to buy cigarettes as they can get them at discount in any port. Did my homework or cruise ship work awhile back and keep asking questions of the staff from cabin stewards to waiters to the cruise staff. Covered a wide area. Everyone knows something. You out there may be cruising a lot more that I am these days. So maybe someone knows something. With the advent of cell phones and calling plans - some crew may share a phone. So calling cards may not be in vogue now. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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