Change in Debarkation in LA due to reduced speeds to protect marine life

[CynCyn]

Good Morning!

I received this notice from Princess last night.....

 

ITINERARY AND FLIGHT GUIDELINE CHANGE

Please be advised that due to newly updated speed restrictions to safeguard the marine life in the area, we must allow more time for the passage to Los Angeles from Vancouver. As a result, Ruby Princess will now arrive in Los Angeles at 9:30 AM on Tuesday, September 24, 2019 rather than 7:00 AM as previously scheduled.   Does anyone know if this is US or CAN based? I’m not complaining as I think it’s a step in the right direction, just curious and want to know more.  Also curious if it will delay the shops and casinos opening on Day 1.  I did this trip in the opposite direction in May and was disappointed that casino and most bars shut down when we hit Canadian waters.

[Deesquared]

I got the same notice last night for an upcoming California Coastal on the Star. I assume it's US based, as it affects all of our port stops in California. We will have less time in San Francisco, San Diego, Santa Barbara and LA, but no change in our arrival time back in Vancouver.

Sadly, it cuts 3 hours off San Fran, 2 hours of San Diego, and 2.5 hours off our LA stops. But I'm glad marine life is being protected, in a small way.

[CynCyn]

I am so sorry you are losing all of that time! I was excited to get a little more time on that last morning but would be a little bummed to lose that many hours in port!

[lx200gps]

Hopefully this only applies to California itineraries and is not more widespread. Our next trip into San Pedro is not until September 2020 and we haven't received any notice of change yet because it's too far out. Pity the poor folks who have early but "legal" flights out of LAX, as I can't imagine Princess or the airlines will cover change fees for this,

[MsSoCalCruiser]

1 hour ago, Deesquared said:

I got the same notice last night for an upcoming California Coastal on the Star. I assume it's US based, as it affects all of our port stops in California. We will have less time in San Francisco, San Diego, Santa Barbara and LA, but no change in our arrival time back in Vancouver.

Sadly, it cuts 3 hours off San Fran, 2 hours of San Diego, and 2.5 hours off our LA stops. But I'm glad marine life is being protected, in a small way.

Which cruise are you on?  I have a coastal coming up but I have not yet received a letter.  Could you possibly share a copy of your letter? Thank you so much.

[Steelers36]

That is pretty late notice for anyone to make a flight change for a SEP date.  I suppose regulations just changed all of a sudden?  We don't sail on the west coast - as yet at least.  But important to guard against unnecessary damage to marine life.

[CynCyn]

20 minutes ago, steelers36 said:

That is pretty late notice for anyone to make a flight change for a SEP date.  I suppose regulations just changed all of a sudden?  We don't sail on the west coast - as yet at least.  But important to guard against unnecessary damage to marine life.

I was glad that I had a late (3:30pm) flight.  I’ve googled for news articles and cannot find any.

[Deesquared]

42 minutes ago, MsSoCalCruiser said:

Which cruise are you on?  I have a coastal coming up but I have not yet received a letter.  Could you possibly share a copy of your letter? Thank you so much.

 

Oct 22 Star Princess Vancouver round-trip.

[Astro Flyer]

1 hour ago, lx200gps said:

Pity the poor folks who have early but "legal" flights out of LAX, as I can't imagine Princess or the airlines will cover change fees for this,

 

The Royal’s arrival in Vancouver from LA in May changed from 0600 to 0730 shortly before the cruise.  Thankfully our flight was at 1400 but those with earlier flights that met the original earliest recommended flight time were affected.  I didn’t talk to anyone affected so don’t know if anyone was able to switch to later flights.

[lx200gps]

We'll just have to sit by and wait for more info on the reasons for this, is scope, duration, etc. A similar ship speed reduction in the Gulf of St Lawrence, put in place due to ship collisions with North American right whales, was recently lifted after it was determine that there were no whales sighted in the affected areas. Perhaps this situation along the West Coast is for a similar reason?

[ceilidh1]

Please read the following important notice regarding your cruise. Click to view online.       IMPORTANT NOTICE REGARDING YOUR CRUISE Royal Princess - Voyage 1934 - Booking Number  Dear Princess Guest:     Please be advised that due to newly updated speed restrictions to safeguard the marine life in the area, we must allow more time for the passage to Los Angeles from Vancouver. Royal Princess will now sail from Vancouver at 3:30 PM on Saturday, September 14, 2019, and will arrive in Los Angeles at 8:30 AM on Tuesday, September 17, 2019. In Vancouver, all guests must be aboard by 3:00 PM. As a result of this change, our embarkation flight guideline in Vancouver has changed. The latest flight arrival time on Saturday, September 14 is now 12:30 PM. Our disembarkation flight guideline in Los Angeles has not changed, and we still recommend flights depart Los Angeles no earlier than 12:30 PM on Tuesday, September 17. Guests with Princess EZair If your Princess EZair arrives later than this time, we will be rebooking your flight and contacting you shortly to discuss your arrangements. Please visit the Cruise Personalizer at www.princess.com/cruisepersonalizer to review your new flight schedule before departure. Guests with independent air arrangements If you have already booked an independent flight that will arrive later than this time, we recommend you rebook your flight to an earlier arrival time. We understand you may incur unexpected expenses for air change fees as a result of this change. Please visit https://www.princess.com/refund-request/ for details on submitted a refund request. If you have any questions, please contact us at 1-800-774-6237 (North America), 0344 3388663 (UK), 13 24 88 (Australia), or 0800 780717 (New Zealand) to discuss your arrangements. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause and thank you for your attention to this important message. The entire staff and crew of Royal Princess look forward to welcoming you on board. Sincerely, Princess Cruises   Notice: This is an automated email; please do not reply as this mailbox is not monitored.

[ceilidh1]

Just now, ceilidh1 said:

Please read the following important notice regarding your cruise. Click to view online.       IMPORTANT NOTICE REGARDING YOUR CRUISE Royal Princess - Voyage 1934 - Booking Number  Dear Princess Guest:     Please be advised that due to newly updated speed restrictions to safeguard the marine life in the area, we must allow more time for the passage to Los Angeles from Vancouver. Royal Princess will now sail from Vancouver at 3:30 PM on Saturday, September 14, 2019, and will arrive in Los Angeles at 8:30 AM on Tuesday, September 17, 2019. In Vancouver, all guests must be aboard by 3:00 PM. As a result of this change, our embarkation flight guideline in Vancouver has changed. The latest flight arrival time on Saturday, September 14 is now 12:30 PM. Our disembarkation flight guideline in Los Angeles has not changed, and we still recommend flights depart Los Angeles no earlier than 12:30 PM on Tuesday, September 17. Guests with Princess EZair If your Princess EZair arrives later than this time, we will be rebooking your flight and contacting you shortly to discuss your arrangements. Please visit the Cruise Personalizer at www.princess.com/cruisepersonalizer to review your new flight schedule before departure. Guests with independent air arrangements If you have already booked an independent flight that will arrive later than this time, we recommend you rebook your flight to an earlier arrival time. We understand you may incur unexpected expenses for air change fees as a result of this change. Please visit https://www.princess.com/refund-request/ for details on submitted a refund request. If you have any questions, please contact us at 1-800-774-6237 (North America), 0344 3388663 (UK), 13 24 88 (Australia), or 0800 780717 (New Zealand) to discuss your arrangements. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause and thank you for your attention to this important message. The entire staff and crew of Royal Princess look forward to welcoming you on board. Sincerely, Princess Cruises   Notice: This is an automated email; please do not reply as this mailbox is not monitored.

Received the above notice for our 3 day coastal on Sept 14th. Doesn't impact me since I live within walking distance of the port in Vancouver and flight times from LAX haven't changed...

[DrivesLikeMario]

41 minutes ago, Astro Flyer said:

 

The Royal’s arrival in Vancouver from LA in May changed from 0600 to 0730 shortly before the cruise.  Thankfully our flight was at 1400 but those with earlier flights that met the original earliest recommended flight time were affected.  I didn’t talk to anyone affected so don’t know if anyone was able to switch to later flights.

We were affected and had to change to a later flight.  Princess did it without question or extra charge.

[Astro Flyer]

2 minutes ago, DrivesLikeMario said:

We were affected and had to change to a later flight.  Princess did it without question or extra charge.

 

That’s good...for EZair, correct?

[DrivesLikeMario]

3 hours ago, Astro Flyer said:

 

That’s good...for EZair, correct?

Yeah.  Air was booked as restricted but since it was a change on the part of Princess, they rebooked a more expensive flight and didn't charge us the difference.  

[MsSoCalCruiser]

4 hours ago, Deesquared said:

 

Oct 22 Star Princess Vancouver round-trip.

Thank you.  I’m LA round trip on the Royal Princess so maybe nothing will change on ours? 

[MsSoCalCruiser]

3 hours ago, ceilidh1 said:

Please read the following important notice regarding your cruise. Click to view online.       IMPORTANT NOTICE REGARDING YOUR CRUISE Royal Princess - Voyage 1934 - Booking Number  Dear Princess Guest:     Please be advised that due to newly updated speed restrictions to safeguard the marine life in the area, we must allow more time for the passage to Los Angeles from Vancouver. Royal Princess will now sail from Vancouver at 3:30 PM on Saturday, September 14, 2019, and will arrive in Los Angeles at 8:30 AM on Tuesday, September 17, 2019. In Vancouver, all guests must be aboard by 3:00 PM. As a result of this change, our embarkation flight guideline in Vancouver has changed. The latest flight arrival time on Saturday, September 14 is now 12:30 PM. Our disembarkation flight guideline in Los Angeles has not changed, and we still recommend flights depart Los Angeles no earlier than 12:30 PM on Tuesday, September 17. Guests with Princess EZair If your Princess EZair arrives later than this time, we will be rebooking your flight and contacting you shortly to discuss your arrangements. Please visit the Cruise Personalizer at www.princess.com/cruisepersonalizer to review your new flight schedule before departure. Guests with independent air arrangements If you have already booked an independent flight that will arrive later than this time, we recommend you rebook your flight to an earlier arrival time. We understand you may incur unexpected expenses for air change fees as a result of this change. Please visit https://www.princess.com/refund-request/ for details on submitted a refund request. If you have any questions, please contact us at 1-800-774-6237 (North America), 0344 3388663 (UK), 13 24 88 (Australia), or 0800 780717 (New Zealand) to discuss your arrangements. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause and thank you for your attention to this important message. The entire staff and crew of Royal Princess look forward to welcoming you on board. Sincerely, Princess Cruises   Notice: This is an automated email; please do not reply as this mailbox is not monitored.

 Thank you so much for posting and sharing with us !

[XBGuy]

We are boarding the Royal Princess in San Pedro on Sep. 27, and I now see that our departure time has been changed from 4:00 pm to 6:00 pm.

[Coral]

5 hours ago, ceilidh1 said:

Received the above notice for our 3 day coastal on Sept 14th. Doesn't impact me since I live within walking distance of the port in Vancouver and flight times from LAX haven't changed...

How cool! You live in a beautiful city!

[ell52]

This is the notice received regarding the Oct 22 Coastal cruise on the Star Princess.

 

ITINERARY CHANGE

Please be advised that due to newly updated speed restrictions to safeguard the marine life in the area, we must allow more time for the passage between ports on your voyage. Star Princess will now arrive in Los Angeles at 9:30 AM on Friday, October 25, 2019, rather than 7:00 AM as previously scheduled. Additionally, departure from San Diego on Saturday, October 26 will be at 4:00 PM rather than 6:00 PM, arrival in Santa Barbara on Sunday, October 27 will now be at 9:00 AM rather than 7:00 AM, and arrival in San Francisco on Monday, October 28 will now be at 3:00 PM rather than 12:00 PM.

 

Updated times for affected shore excursions should be available in your Cruise Personalizer in the next two weeks.

We regret any disappointment these changes may cause, and look forward to welcoming you aboard Star Princess.

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Edited September 1, 2019 by ell52

[satxdiver]

We are on the Star in November to HI and received this notice yesterday.  We will now be boarding between 2:00 and 5:00.  Thankfully we have a 1:30 flight out of LAX and should have plenty of time to make the gate.  

[vampiress]

fascinating.  i can't find anything on these speed changes. anyone able to find anything that isn't the above linked princess letters?  i'd really love to read about the speed change and what wildlife it is protecting.

 

also interesting, my royal cruise on 10/14 is still showing leaving at 4pm monday and getting back at 6:15am on saturday

[satxdiver]

This is appears to be California ports which says that it has to do with CA law and/or regulations.  I doubt you will find anything on Princess about it.

[vampiress]

i wasn't looking on princess, i was looking for the laws, specifically the law that changed inthe past week or so causing people to last minute flight change.

 

i found this about the VSRP but it is just a kudos post for ongoing compliance, not a change in the speeds or distance for compliance

https://www.portoflosangeles.org/references/news_071219_vsrp

 

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Ships voluntarily slow down to 12 knots as they approach or depart the San Pedro Bay port complex, generally at 20 nautical miles from Point Fermin. Since 2008, the Port of Los Angeles has offered incentives to shipping lines that achieve a 90 percent participation rate in the VSRP during a full calendar year. In 2009, the program was expanded to also include incentives for reducing speed at 40 nautical miles from Point Fermin.

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Edited September 1, 2019 by vampiress

[BCCRUSINGCOUPLE]

Got the same email brutal but what can you do.


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