TangoCruz Posted December 7, 2019 #1 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Currently on Oasis as we are coming in hot to Miami 12 hours early. Medical emergency in early hours this morning caused Captain to significantly speed us up today for benefit of affected passenger. We’ve maintain average speed of 23 knots most of the day so it’s been a little breezy by the pool. Bad news for everyone else is that shops & casino will have to close at 6:30 PM. This will save me a few $$ as wife will have to retire early from the slot machines. Prayers for the sick passenger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted December 7, 2019 #2 Share Posted December 7, 2019 I wonder if they will turn around and head back out so they can open the casino back up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tee & Chilli Posted December 7, 2019 #3 Share Posted December 7, 2019 The map shows we are very close to Miami. We should dock around 7 p.m. An ambulance is waiting Port side. It was announced the patient is stable. Many prayers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2weimies Posted December 7, 2019 #4 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Don’t know why they didn’t airlift the passenger . It has been done before on the grandeur of the sea in 2017. disrupted the vacation of over 5,000 return home 12 hours early and yet you cannot get off the ship . Definitely more to this story than the captain has disclosed . Ship has been speeding and rocking since last night .. very windy and chilly all day . Not the relaxing day at sea we were supposed to have . coast guard helicopters have done mid air medical evacuations this is VERY unusual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueridgemama Posted December 7, 2019 #5 Share Posted December 7, 2019 1 minute ago, 2weimies said: Don’t know why they didn’t airlift the passenger . It has been done before on the grandeur of the sea in 2017. disrupted the vacation of over 5,000 return home 12 hours early and yet you cannot get off the ship . Definitely more to this story than the captain has disclosed . Ship has been speeding and rocking since last night .. very windy and chilly all day . Not the relaxing day at sea we were supposed to have . coast guard helicopters have done mid air medical evacuations this is VERY unusual I If you were the affected passenger or it was one of your family members I think you would not be complaining about the disruption of your cruise. I'm sure the medical staff onboard conferred carefully with the medical staff on land and the Captain to determine what was in the best interest of the sick passenger. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2weimies Posted December 7, 2019 #6 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Don’t know why they didn’t airlift the passenger . It has been done before on the grandeur of the sea in 2017. disrupted the vacation of over 5,000 return home 12 hours early and yet you cannot get off the ship . Definitely more to this story than the captain has disclosed . Ship has been speeding and rocking since last night .. very windy and chilly all day . Not the relaxing day at sea we were supposed to have . coast guard helicopters have done mid air medical evacuations this is VERY unusual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2weimies Posted December 7, 2019 #7 Share Posted December 7, 2019 I am not saying the “ affected “ passenger should not get the needed medical care. Hoping they have a speedy recovery . Heard some mention of a crew member not passenger so RCCL is responsible and would what’s BEST for them . Air lifting passengers is the norm EVEN if US Coast guard gets involved . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcclmiami Posted December 7, 2019 #8 Share Posted December 7, 2019 15 minutes ago, 2weimies said: Don’t know why they didn’t airlift the passenger . It has been done before on the grandeur of the sea in 2017. disrupted the vacation of over 5,000 return home 12 hours early and yet you cannot get off the ship . Definitely more to this story than the captain has disclosed . Ship has been speeding and rocking since last night .. very windy and chilly all day . Not the relaxing day at sea we were supposed to have . coast guard helicopters have done mid air medical evacuations this is VERY unusual 25 grand for an airlift. Usually not covered by insurance. Found this out from fiancé of first officer on Explorer on a Canada run several years ago. Full speed into Halifax. Guy was dead in the dining room. They got him back and he was awake and waving good bye when they wheeled him off. Watched from balcony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greykitty Posted December 7, 2019 #9 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Good lord - do many passengers second guess the captain and medical professionals? And during the Christmas season yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueridgemama Posted December 7, 2019 #10 Share Posted December 7, 2019 1 minute ago, greykitty said: Good lord - do many passengers second guess the captain and medical professionals? And during the Christmas season yet. Pretty sad😕 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted December 7, 2019 #11 Share Posted December 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, 2weimies said: I am not saying the “ affected “ passenger should not get the needed medical care. Hoping they have a speedy recovery . Heard some mention of a crew member not passenger so RCCL is responsible and would what’s BEST for them . Air lifting passengers is the norm EVEN if US Coast guard gets involved . Airlifting passengers is the last resort and not at all the norm. It’s dangerous for the chopper pilots and can put the ship in danger. It is a last resort, life and death situation only. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP3o Posted December 7, 2019 #12 Share Posted December 7, 2019 I wonder if they give the pax an option, in case they do have medical evacuation insurance up to 100k limit. I buy these sort of health insurance plans but no idea how hard it would be to actually get covered. Would someone from the ship call insurance company and verify coverage? It's not something easy to put on a charge card and seek reimbursement later. If seriously sick I'd rather be tended too sooner than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mafig Posted December 7, 2019 #13 Share Posted December 7, 2019 I agree that airlifting is not the norm. However, I think I read that if the U. S Coast Guard does the airlifting, there is no charge. Don't know if this is true or not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTO-Girl Posted December 7, 2019 #14 Share Posted December 7, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, greykitty said: Good lord - do many passengers second guess the captain and medical professionals? And during the Christmas season yet. We call them “armchair Captains”. We were on the Harmony for the Hurricane Dorian cruise. Our 7 days turned into an 11 day cruise, which was fine by me!!! But with a Cat 5 hurricane sitting between us and the US you should have heard all the “solutions” being offered by some passengers! It was quite amusing to say the least... Edited December 7, 2019 by GTO-Girl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shellunderwater Posted December 7, 2019 #15 Share Posted December 7, 2019 30 minutes ago, greykitty said: Good lord - do many passengers second guess the captain and medical professionals? And during the Christmas season yet. 2nd, 3rd, 4th.... everything. All the time on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shellunderwater Posted December 7, 2019 #16 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Chief may have some comments, but I believe before Coasties are dispatched, the med team would have a consultation with the CG flight surgeon to determine need and options. Not sure about Captain and any other land based med teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greykitty Posted December 7, 2019 #17 Share Posted December 7, 2019 The ship's personnel must have the patience of angels - I'd be taking names and helping them disembark, ah, very very quickly - at a port of my choosing. I get being frustrated by change of plans, but, I agree with the poster who said 'put yourself in that situation'. I applaud any corporate entity that puts the health and welfare of its clients and staff first - even if it's 'inconvenient'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 1025cruise Posted December 8, 2019 #18 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Not all medical emergencies are suitable for an airlift. Also, if a little speed gets the ship in to a port, its a lot safer than an airlift. Airlifts are only used if there are no other options, or if the situation warrants (the passenger needs to get to shore quicker than the ship can get there). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suesnake2002 Posted December 8, 2019 #19 Share Posted December 8, 2019 On the live reports there were 2 alphas, one on deck 2 (crew maybe), and one on deck 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leaveitallbehind Posted December 8, 2019 #20 Share Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, 2weimies said: Don’t know why they didn’t airlift the passenger . It has been done before on the grandeur of the sea in 2017. disrupted the vacation of over 5,000 return home 12 hours early and yet you cannot get off the ship . Definitely more to this story than the captain has disclosed . Ship has been speeding and rocking since last night .. very windy and chilly all day . Not the relaxing day at sea we were supposed to have . coast guard helicopters have done mid air medical evacuations this is VERY unusual Sorry you have been so inconvenienced as the result of this passenger's inconsiderate illness combined with Mother Natures will with the weather! Certainly you must be owed some sort of compensation for your inconvenience and early return. 😒 And BTW, how long have you served as Captain of a vessel at sea to be so knowledgeable and in position to second guess his decisions? Edited December 8, 2019 by leaveitallbehind 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tee & Chilli Posted December 8, 2019 #21 Share Posted December 8, 2019 I’m onboard and the early arrival has not disrupted my cruise. I’m still having a great time. The shows are ongoing tonight - karaoke, frozen in time, Cats, comedians, Jazz on 4, etc... Praying for the best outcome for the guest impacted by the medical emergency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#55worktoplay Posted December 8, 2019 #22 Share Posted December 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Tee & Chilli said: I’m onboard and the early arrival has not disrupted my cruise. I’m still having a great time. The shows are ongoing tonight - karaoke, frozen in time, Cats, comedians, Jazz on 4, etc... Praying for the best outcome for the guest impacted by the medical emergency. Have you arrived in Miami yet? Sad news for the passenger and family. I hope the will be okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tee & Chilli Posted December 8, 2019 #23 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Yes we’re here in Miami. I thought we would stay docked all night however now we’re slowly moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BirdTravels Posted December 8, 2019 #24 Share Posted December 8, 2019 2 hours ago, 2weimies said: Don’t know why they didn’t airlift the passenger . It has been done before on the grandeur of the sea in 2017. disrupted the vacation of over 5,000 return home 12 hours early and yet you cannot get off the ship . Definitely more to this story than the captain has disclosed . Ship has been speeding and rocking since last night .. very windy and chilly all day . Not the relaxing day at sea we were supposed to have . coast guard helicopters have done mid air medical evacuations this is VERY unusual Airlifts are unusual and last resort. And an airlift would mean that you would have to divert and sail close to land (take you off course heading home). Spend an hour or more at limited speed while the Coast Guard rescue personnel are onboard and assess the patient. Then lift the passenger and family members up into a helicopter. So, rather than being early into port, you would have been late into port making you miss your flight. Better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTO-Girl Posted December 8, 2019 #25 Share Posted December 8, 2019 45 minutes ago, leaveitallbehind said: Sorry you have been so inconvenienced as the result of this passenger's inconsiderate illness combined with Mother Natures will with the weather! Certainly you must be owed some sort of compensation for your inconvenience and early return. 😒 And BTW, how long have you served as Captain of a vessel at sea to be so knowledgeable and in position to second guess his decisions? Love it!!! 😂😂😂😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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