P&O Cruisers - What are things like where YOU are?

[Harry Peterson]

57 minutes ago, brian1 said:

Where then.

Essex accents are interesting, on a slightly different tack.  Listen to someone from, say, Colchester, talking on record back in the 1950s and compare that with someone now.  The London effect.  And the spread of Estuary English.

[Vampiress88]

1 hour ago, Harry Peterson said:

I understand that, Andy, and if it hits it can hit hard.  And at 50 you're moving into a higher risk category.  Influenza can also kill young adults - that's not to underplay Covid-19 in any way, but statistically young adults are very unlikely to come to harm from either.

 

Some of the vaccine trials now taking place may well have to involve deliberate infection of volunteers with the virus - which carries a risk in itself, but one which a lot of volunteers will doubtless accept on the basis of the stats.

 

If there's no vaccine, we're all going to have to accept one of two options - either stay at home forever or accept that you're probably going to contract Covid-19, with a small chance that it might kill you.

if there can’t be a vaccine I doubt people will want to stay at home forever. It’s then a quantity vs quality of life question. When it’s a short amount of time people are happy to stay at home but if it’s over years I doubt they will. People won’t want to go without their family. 
 

I think we are all just so ready for this to be over now. 
id really love to know the difference between dying with and from. 
we aren’t then counting all the other from missed treatment, domestic and such. 
 

aside from that I have started a list of positive reasons for not doing Disney this year and apart from losing money then there is some good benefits. 
but I don’t have a countdown anymore for this year, my holidays were April May and June all cancelled. So I’m counting down to Christmas. 
211 days to go 🎄 

[Adawn47]

3 hours ago, Harry Peterson said:

Those in that group have an infinitesimally small chance of coming to harm, and they doubtless are aware of that.

 

It's only those in the higher risk categories that face a real risk, and we take it very seriously indeed! 

Although the under 45s may not personally come to harm they can still transmit the virus to others who are in the higher risk category. Both our grandsons aged 24 and 36 are constantly worrying about bringing this virus into our house.

Avril 

[Harry Peterson]

2 minutes ago, Adawn47 said:

Although the under 45s may not personally come to harm they can still transmit the virus to others who are in the higher risk category. Both our grandsons aged 24 and 36 are constantly worrying about bringing this virus into our house.

Avril 

Absolutely,  Avril.  And we haven't been able to leave the house or see our children or our grandchildren since mid-March for that reason. It's hard.

 

People directly affected know what has to be done, but a lot of other people will just be looking at personal risk and deciding it's a lot less risky than crossing the road! 

 

We're moving tomorrow into another new phase,  and it's not going to be helped by the growing feeling that none of it matters any more because of the support given to Cummings over what he did - and what an incredible story that was!

 

 

[Vampiress88]

Side note- why does no one seem to blog their cruises on here? I can see little reviews but not actual blogs. 
I read DamienG one and it was great. Would love it if more people did one. Even if it is a different generation thing we can all be transported to holiday with you. 
 

ive stopped following news. I don’t know what phase we are moving to. I’m just staying in the garden, working and not much else. Seems like the easiest thing to do

[Adawn47]

5 minutes ago, Harry Peterson said:

And we haven't been able to leave the house or see our children or our  grandchildren 

Our two grandsons live with us Harry and both work at B&Q.

Avril 

 

[grapau27]

10 hours ago, Adawn47 said:

It beggars belief how some people are. I've always said that shop staff are looked on as beneath contempt. Not only shop staff though, any job that entails serving the public. A perfect example is on cruise ships. We've all seen it. I was always told by Dad that, no one is better than me, but then I'm no better than anyone else either, and that's how I've always lived. Respect now is a foreign word, as is please, thank you and excuse me.

Avril 

Your dad was a wise man.

I always treat people the way I would like to be treat myself.

I have always had a customer facing job in 46 years working.

I started work at a travel agent then a bank before 42 years as a sales representative so have a tendency to show respect to everyone like I do my customers.

 

[happy v]

1 minute ago, Adawn47 said:

Our two grandsons live with us Harry and both work at B&Q.

Avril 

 

We have driven around B&Q car park FOUR times now, and it is still too busy to stand in the queue. What is everyone buying!

[Josy1953]

37 minutes ago, Vampiress88 said:

id really love to know the difference between dying with and from. 
 

From means that covid was the cause of death, with means that it was not the direct cause of death, but covid was present.

Edited May 27, 2020 by Josy1953

[Harry Peterson]

6 minutes ago, Adawn47 said:

Our two grandsons live with us Harry and both work at B&Q.

Avril 

 

That's a difficult situation for all of you,  Avril.

[Vampiress88]

2 minutes ago, Josy1953 said:

From means that bit was the cause of death, with means that it was not the direct cause of death, but covid was present.

I get that. I was multitasking badly. I meant I would love to know the figures. Suppose we will never know. Chicken and egg I suppose. Just another person on a different board was explaining about her aunt. They already knew she only had 3 months left but as she tested positive afterward she past with covid19 she became one of the statistics and it makes me wonder On the stats

[Adawn47]

4 minutes ago, happy v said:

We have driven around B&Q car park FOUR times now, and it is still too busy to stand in the queue. What is everyone buying!

I haven't a clue, but they've had some good tales to tell when they come home from work. 

Avril 

[Adawn47]

10 minutes ago, grapau27 said:

Your dad was a wise man.

Thank you. He was a wonderful man and after 30 years I still miss him. 

Avril 

[grapau27]

37 minutes ago, Harry Peterson said:

Absolutely,  Avril.  And we haven't been able to leave the house or see our children or our grandchildren since mid-March for that reason. It's hard.

 

People directly affected know what has to be done, but a lot of other people will just be looking at personal risk and deciding it's a lot less risky than crossing the road! 

 

We're moving tomorrow into another new phase,  and it's not going to be helped by the growing feeling that none of it matters any more because of the support given to Cummings over what he did - and what an incredible story that was!

 

 

We live near Durham and now we are one of the highest infection rates in the country when we were quite low.

I wonder if it is a coincidence or maybe someone was out driving 60 miles to a beauty spot to test their eyesight and didn't see what was wrong.

Edited May 27, 2020 by grapau27

[AndyMichelle]

2 hours ago, Harry Peterson said:

Essex accents are interesting, on a slightly different tack.  Listen to someone from, say, Colchester, talking on record back in the 1950s and compare that with someone now.  The London effect.  And the spread of Estuary English.

The Estuary accent is completely different to Colchester Harry. 

Either side of the river say Grays to Southend and the other side from Dartford to Gravesend, the accent is very rough Cockney. 

Colchester is still relatively audible, although London has grown to incorporate these Towns now. 

Andy 

[Harry Peterson]

9 minutes ago, Vampiress88 said:

I get that. I was multitasking badly. I meant I would love to know the figures. Suppose we will never know. Chicken and egg I suppose. Just another person on a different board was explaining about her aunt. They already knew she only had 3 months left but as she tested positive afterward she past with covid19 she became one of the statistics and it makes me wonder On the stats

Fair point. The evidence suggests that the virus is bringing forward deaths that would have happened anyway within a few months, but that doesn't make it any easier for those affected. 

[Harry Peterson]

5 minutes ago, AndyMichelle said:

The Estuary accent is completely different to Colchester Harry. 

Either side of the river say Grays to Southend and the other side from Dartford to Gravesend, the accent is very rough Cockney. 

Colchester is still relatively audible, although London has grown to incorporate these Towns now. 

Andy 

Estuary English has spread rather further than that, I think, Andy. Colchester had its own North Essex accent, but it's been swamped now.

 

And as for Brentwood........

[happy v]

27 minutes ago, Vampiress88 said:

I get that. I was multitasking badly. I meant I would love to know the figures. Suppose we will never know. Chicken and egg I suppose. Just another person on a different board was explaining about her aunt. They already knew she only had 3 months left but as she tested positive afterward she past with covid19 she became one of the statistics and it makes me wonder On the stats

The CMO has said many times on the daily briefing that it will be the end of the year before they can assess the figures because as Harry says many who are dying would have anyway. 

[grapau27]

6 minutes ago, happy v said:

The CMO has said many times on the daily briefing that it will be the end of the year before they can assess the figures because as Harry says many who are dying would have anyway. 

We met our niece last night for a picnic in Gosforth Park and the park was quite busy but all the families were social distancing from others.

Edited May 27, 2020 by grapau27

[AndyMichelle]

16 minutes ago, Harry Peterson said:

Estuary English has spread rather further than that, I think, Andy. Colchester had its own North Essex accent, but it's been swamped now.

 

And as for Brentwood........

I have family and friends all over Essex, I was born in Romford and visit Colchester regularly. 

Like all towns, especially military towns, it is very cosmopolitan, but the accent is nowhere near as bad as Southend etc

Andy 

[happy v]

1 minute ago, grapau27 said:

We met our niece last night for a picnic in Gosforth Park and the park was quite busy but all the families were social distancing from others.

Our granddaughter 12, met her friend in Herrington Park yesterday. They were so delighted they were there three and a half hours. 

[AndyMichelle]

3 minutes ago, grapau27 said:

We met our niece last night for a picnic in Gosforth Park and the park was quite busy but all the families were social distancing from others.

That's nice Graham. 

No harm in that as long as you are sensible. 

Andy 

[kalos]

1 hour ago, Harry Peterson said:

Absolutely,  Avril.  And we haven't been able to leave the house or see our children or our grandchildren since mid-March for that reason. It's hard.

 

I know how you feel Harry .I got out of hospital in October and that was the last time we saw our grandkids as the Specialist told me to isolate at home as my heart was that weak running at 20%.and the risk of catching a cold could have been a disaster for me .

Now I'm running at 49% so would have been ok to see them but MR Covid came along .

I had to cancel the New Year Cruise but I think "There will be other times " I can cope with that .

The months of staying in I have learnt to cope with that ,not seeing family is the hard one but I can phone them anytime .

I just keep thinking we will beat this, one way or another and keep looking for the good things we have and what we have done in our lives.With a good woman to support me what could go wrong .

When I hear someone say life is hard I can't help thinking compared to what ? Keep smiling .
 

 

Edited May 27, 2020 by kalos

[grapau27]

Just now, happy v said:

Our granddaughter 12, met her friend in Herrington Park yesterday. They were so delighted they were there three and a half hours. 

That's a couple of miles from us.

I spent many years as a child playing football in Herrington Park.

 

[grapau27]

9 minutes ago, AndyMichelle said:

That's nice Graham. 

No harm in that as long as you are sensible. 

Andy 

We were social distancing even though it was very difficult to not all hug each other.

Salmon sandwiches,tuna and Mayo sandwiches and a bottle of Prosecco.

Pauline and I sat on the park bench while Sarah sat on a rug on the grass.

Edited May 27, 2020 by grapau27