Rare Eddie99 Posted July 4, 2020 #401 Share Posted July 4, 2020 22 minutes ago, wowzz said: Any idea where she is going - is it possible that she is just heading off to Weymouth Bay? Marella Explorer has just joined the fleet in Weymouth Bay No Punch & Judy but you can bring your binoculars and watch the ships 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No pager thank you Posted July 4, 2020 #402 Share Posted July 4, 2020 1 minute ago, bee-ess said: Very Sad, Had some good cruises on Oceana. More long waits for refund payments. If the itineraries are managed by another ship, then potentially no refunds from P&O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No pager thank you Posted July 4, 2020 #403 Share Posted July 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, Eddie99 said: Marella Explorer has just joined the fleet in Weymouth Bay No Punch & Judy but you can bring your binoculars and watch the ships Hopefully it's not a swap deal!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tring Posted July 4, 2020 #404 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Oh dear. If Oceana goes that is another one down and only two mid sized ships left. We are booked on Aurora for the N. American Eastern Seaboard Sept 2021 and I do hope we make it. The larger ships have little interest to us at all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britboys Posted July 4, 2020 #405 Share Posted July 4, 2020 53 minutes ago, AndyMichelle said: As you are one of the very few posters on here that I take much notice of, it seems like bad news for Oceana then.. Off to the great scrapyard in the sea... Andy I too have heard from a normally accurate source that her days are numbered... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrierjohn Posted July 4, 2020 #406 Share Posted July 4, 2020 1 hour ago, No pager thank you said: If the itineraries are managed by another ship, then potentially no refunds from P&O. There will still need to be a full rebooking undertaken as any other ship will have totally different deck plans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britboys Posted July 4, 2020 #407 Share Posted July 4, 2020 I know that P&O have already said that itineraries may have to be changed once they resume operations but if she does leave the fleet quickly, it will be a nightmare for both the booked pax and P&O! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Eddie99 Posted July 4, 2020 #408 Share Posted July 4, 2020 But I guess we’re all confident of the company’s capabilities wrt handling that? 🙄 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molecrochip Posted July 4, 2020 #409 Share Posted July 4, 2020 I would anticipate that some of the duplication will disappear. Ventura is sailing similar to Iona pre Christmas. There are Med and Canaries cruises on the adults only ships 0which are broadly duplicated by family ships. I expect some rationalisation. It does free up an adult only ship. This is fine except for the Christmas middle-East cruise. It would be different when we consider Summer itenaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee-ess Posted July 4, 2020 #410 Share Posted July 4, 2020 (edited) I would not expect to be switched to a different ship without option of refund. Edited July 4, 2020 by bee-ess 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No pager thank you Posted July 4, 2020 #411 Share Posted July 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, terrierjohn said: There will still need to be a full rebooking undertaken as any other ship will have totally different deck plans. Yes, I would agree. However, on the working assumption that any replacement ship has at least the same numbers and orientation of cabins available, then a rebooking process could be achieved, if required. A rebooking of the ship, if not the itinerary or standard of cabin may not count as a major change. This would be almost guaranteed if Oceana itineraries were replaced with those from a larger, as opposed to mid sized ship. In fairness, if the replacement ship is unacceptable to the passenger and this is confirmed immediately, then hopefully very few final balances will have been paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molecrochip Posted July 4, 2020 #412 Share Posted July 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, No pager thank you said: In fairness, if the replacement ship is unacceptable to the passenger and this is confirmed immediately, then hopefully very few final balances will have been paid. This is why I’m expecting we will get some kind of announcement at the end of this week / start of next - before the direct balance due date arrives. Even if it’s just to push the balance due date out a month while other plans are confirmed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tring Posted July 4, 2020 #413 Share Posted July 4, 2020 19 minutes ago, terrierjohn said: There will still need to be a full rebooking undertaken as any other ship will have totally different deck plans. Change of ship to one of the bigger ones is clearly a significant change, so passengers also entitled to refund of wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No pager thank you Posted July 4, 2020 #414 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Just now, molecrochip said: This is why I’m expecting we will get some kind of announcement at the end of this week / start of next - before the direct balance due date arrives. Even if it’s just to push the balance due date out a month while other plans are confirmed. Others may disagree, but that seems to be fair to me. This could affect us indirectly, as we are planned to be on Iona at Christmas, but, reading between the lines, it would seem more likely that another ship will be "re-routed" for Christmas and New Year. If there is an immediate overbooking problem, common sense would suggest it will be the festive season cruises. What I would say of course is that it would be a good idea for P&O to take Oceana off sale on "Super Saturday," if am announcement is expected, as that is less fair to passengers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No pager thank you Posted July 4, 2020 #415 Share Posted July 4, 2020 9 minutes ago, tring said: Change of ship to one of the bigger ones is clearly a significant change, so passengers also entitled to refund of wanted. That will depend on the company's stance. If the replacement ship is of at least the same or a higher standard then it will not be necessarily be a major change as per the regulations. It would be common sense though for P&O to be flexible in the circumstances, however they will want to keep cashflow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britboys Posted July 4, 2020 #416 Share Posted July 4, 2020 If indeed all of this comes to pass (none of us can be 100% sure), then I agree that I hope P&O will be flexible. If I were booked on a cruise aboard Oceana and it was changed to Ventura, I would want to be able to cancel with a full refund. I may be in a minority with that but I am sure I would not be the only one. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molecrochip Posted July 4, 2020 #417 Share Posted July 4, 2020 15 minutes ago, No pager thank you said: Others may disagree, but that seems to be fair to me. This could affect us indirectly, as we are planned to be on Iona at Christmas, but, reading between the lines, it would seem more likely that another ship will be "re-routed" for Christmas and New Year. If there is an immediate overbooking problem, common sense would suggest it will be the festive season cruises. What I would say of course is that it would be a good idea for P&O to take Oceana off sale on "Super Saturday," if am announcement is expected, as that is less fair to passengers. I don’t think Iona will be rerouted but Ventura has an almost identical cruise so could be sent somewhere else. Im also on Iona at Christmas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zap99 Posted July 4, 2020 #418 Share Posted July 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Eddie99 said: Marella Explorer has just joined the fleet in Weymouth Bay No Punch & Judy but you can bring your binoculars and watch the ships If social distancing isn't possible, can't you have either punch, or Judy. The policeman can enforce the guidelines.😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No pager thank you Posted July 4, 2020 #419 Share Posted July 4, 2020 8 minutes ago, molecrochip said: I don’t think Iona will be rerouted but Ventura has an almost identical cruise so could be sent somewhere else. Im also on Iona at Christmas. Hopefully it will be possible to move Ventura's scheduled guests on to Iona. I would imagine though that the combined existing bookings will be higher than the current capacity of Iona, awaits to be seen. I would imagine this would be relatively acceptable solution to most, but not all, passengers. Very few Ventura guests will bother I would suggest, perhaps a few more of the original Oceana guests. I'm actually getting more confident that we'll just about avoid a cruise free 2020, fingers crossed (for both of us)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molecrochip Posted July 4, 2020 #420 Share Posted July 4, 2020 There was also due to be an adults only Christmas cruise to the Canaries. One hopes that 3 into 2 might go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manx buoy Posted July 4, 2020 #421 Share Posted July 4, 2020 I reckon Azura will take over the Gulf cruises if not this year certainly next year and Ventura will do the Caribbean fly cruises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No pager thank you Posted July 4, 2020 #422 Share Posted July 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, molecrochip said: There was also due to be an adults only Christmas cruise to the Canaries. One hopes that 3 into 2 might go. That's true, I had forgotten about the third ship running the itinerary. 3 in to 2 has a better chance of going. Certainly fine, one would have thought, for the lower season November / December cruises. The only thing which might affect this is how strong the FCC demand has been for cancelled sailings. I would imagine that the current fill rate is higher than normal for that reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zap99 Posted July 4, 2020 #423 Share Posted July 4, 2020 12 minutes ago, molecrochip said: There was also due to be an adults only Christmas cruise to the Canaries. One hopes that 3 into 2 might go. That type of cruise more popular in USA. They put pineapples on the cabin door🤔 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drsel Posted July 4, 2020 #424 Share Posted July 4, 2020 In my opinion the 6 ships Carnival is going to dump include Costa Victoria, (already sold for scrap), Costa mediterranea and Costa neoRomantica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adawn47 Posted July 4, 2020 #425 Share Posted July 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Son of Anarchy said: Farewell lovely Oceana. Some great memories. At least we got to cruise on her in January this year. Don't jump the gun just yet. Wait until it's official. I'm not saying that it won't be happening, only just to wait and see. Avril 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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