Blizzard54 Posted November 11, 2020 #451 Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, twangster said: There was and if I recall the issue there was compounded because Royal altered the cruise due to a mandatory USCG inspection in Honolulu. The original booking didn't violate the PVSA but once Royal modified the cruise for the USCG inspection it became a PVSA violation. Ovation had never been to the US before that cruise so the required inspection was more involved. Although the cruise was altered, it did not have an effect on the PVSA situation. Royal allowed them to book a B2B that was in violation and then did not notice it until just before their first sailing. We had a similar situation last year with people on the Adventure in New England doing B2B's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare twangster Posted November 11, 2020 #452 Share Posted November 11, 2020 44 minutes ago, Blizzard54 said: Although the cruise was altered, it did not have an effect on the PVSA situation. Royal allowed them to book a B2B that was in violation and then did not notice it until just before their first sailing. We had a similar situation last year with people on the Adventure in New England doing B2B's. Ah. I thought they were through passengers caught in the inspection pit stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted November 12, 2020 Author #453 Share Posted November 12, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, twangster said: The original booking didn't violate the PVSA but once Royal modified the cruise for the USCG inspection it became a PVSA violation. Ovation had never been to the US before that cruise so the required inspection was more involved. The Ovation itinerary didn't change that much - they only modified the Hawaii ports stops - she still went Sydney - Hawaii - Vancouver (with a much longer stop in Honolulu - 3 days instead of one, for the expanded CG inspection). BTW, the 10 or so people who booked B2B (Hawaii - Vancouver- Seattle in violation of PVSA) were taken off in Victoria, put up for the night, transported separately and then were allowed to embark in Vancouver. Edited November 12, 2020 by Biker19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADflyer Posted November 12, 2020 #454 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Serenade of the Seas had been booked for months to depart Alaska following the 2022 season with a Pacific Coastal / Panama Canal sailing that also is booked to stop at Grand Cayman on October15th, 2022 after transiting the Canal. Radiance of the Seas is booked to also sail on a Pacific Coastal now in 2022 following the Alaska sailing. This would indicate most likely another Panama Canal sailing. They released the same sailing for the 2021 re-deployment. Radiance will most likely return to Miami for winter 2022-23. Navigator (possible Voyager or other placeholder) has been booked for August 2nd 2022 at Monterey California. I had previously posted the frequent 2023 Navigator bookings at Monterey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashland Posted November 12, 2020 #455 Share Posted November 12, 2020 45 minutes ago, MADflyer said: Serenade of the Seas had been booked for months to depart Alaska following the 2022 season with a Pacific Coastal / Panama Canal sailing that also is booked to stop at Grand Cayman on October15th, 2022 after transiting the Canal. Radiance of the Seas is booked to also sail on a Pacific Coastal now in 2022 following the Alaska sailing. This would indicate most likely another Panama Canal sailing. They released the same sailing for the 2021 re-deployment. Radiance will most likely return to Miami for winter 2022-23. Navigator (possible Voyager or other placeholder) has been booked for August 2nd 2022 at Monterey California. I had previously posted the frequent 2023 Navigator bookings at Monterey. So...a bit confused...your thoughts on when the west coast may have a ship sailing to anywhere other than a coastal cruise? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADflyer Posted November 12, 2020 #456 Share Posted November 12, 2020 49 minutes ago, Ashland said: So...a bit confused...your thoughts on when the west coast may have a ship sailing to anywhere other than a coastal cruise? I just see the bookings at Astoria, Oregon and Monterey CA at the moment. They have had Serenade booked for a few months at Astoria and Grand Cayman. They just booked Radiance on the 3rd of November for both 2021 and 2022 at Astoria. Navigator was just booked this week at Monterey for the 2nd of August 2022. I have no idea when they would finalize or release those sailings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MommaBear55 Posted November 12, 2020 #457 Share Posted November 12, 2020 On 11/10/2020 at 7:08 PM, Blizzard54 said: But they only released a few dates, maybe the rest by the end of the week. Canada just announced no visitors until at least June 21, 2021, so no cruises before that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ourusualbeach Posted November 12, 2020 #458 Share Posted November 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, MommaBear55 said: Canada just announced no visitors until at least June 21, 2021, so no cruises before that Do you have a link. It was just 2 weeks ago that they extended the restrictions until Nov. 30th, 2020. That seems like a big jump in time compared to what they have been doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashland Posted November 12, 2020 #459 Share Posted November 12, 2020 18 minutes ago, MommaBear55 said: Canada just announced no visitors until at least June 21, 2021, so no cruises before that I'm keeping hope for my Canada/NE Oct 2021 on Freedom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADflyer Posted November 12, 2020 #460 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Bookings made at the Balearic Island ports of Palma and Ibiza seem to indicate that they are shifting things around a bit at the last minute. Riviera ports have not been updated yet. Allure of the Seas should be the summer season 2022 ship based on the 7 night sailings out of Barcelona with the same weekly Sunday departures. Bookings for Vision of the Seas and Jewel of the Seas do not give a clear vision of the sailings. They do not appear to be doing regular weekly or 12 night sailings. Jewel appears to be heading in and out of the MED with 2 cruises calling on Funchal Madeira. Ports of Nice, Allicante, Valencia and Tarragonia are booked. These will become more clear when Riviera ports updates their bookings. Anthem has increased now to 4 sailings from Southampton entering the MED. It seems that INDY will also return to Southampton based on current bookings. Rhapsody has calls on her way to Italy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ourusualbeach Posted November 12, 2020 #461 Share Posted November 12, 2020 22 minutes ago, MommaBear55 said: Canada just announced no visitors until at least June 21, 2021, so no cruises before that That was an old article you read. They closed the border until June 21, 2020. It is currently closed until Nov30th. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-canada-us-border-expected-to-stay-closed-to-non-essential-travel-to/ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ourusualbeach Posted November 12, 2020 #462 Share Posted November 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ashland said: I'm keeping hope for my Canada/NE Oct 2021 on Freedom. Old article that they read...June 21, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashland Posted November 13, 2020 #463 Share Posted November 13, 2020 14 minutes ago, Ourusualbeach said: Old article that they read...June 21, 2020 Thanks for clarifying...just what we need more of..incorrect info ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard54 Posted November 13, 2020 #464 Share Posted November 13, 2020 1 hour ago, MADflyer said: I just see the bookings at Astoria, Oregon and Monterey CA at the moment. They have had Serenade booked for a few months at Astoria and Grand Cayman. They just booked Radiance on the 3rd of November for both 2021 and 2022 at Astoria. Navigator was just booked this week at Monterey for the 2nd of August 2022. I have no idea when they would finalize or release those sailings. November 3rd would be VERY late in the season for Astoria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADflyer Posted November 13, 2020 #465 Share Posted November 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, Blizzard54 said: November 3rd would be VERY late in the season for Astoria. The booking was made with the port authority just 9 days ago on the 3rd of November. The call of the ship is in 2022 following the Alaska season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard54 Posted November 13, 2020 #466 Share Posted November 13, 2020 20 minutes ago, MADflyer said: The booking was made with the port authority just 9 days ago on the 3rd of November. The call of the ship is in 2022 following the Alaska season. I misunderstood, I thought they booked the ship to stop there on Nov 3rd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seville2Cabo Posted November 13, 2020 #467 Share Posted November 13, 2020 The week of November 30th the Europe cruise will be released. Will the spring TA’s also be released? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADflyer Posted November 13, 2020 #468 Share Posted November 13, 2020 26 minutes ago, Seville2Cabo said: The week of November 30th the Europe cruise will be released. Will the spring TA’s also be released? The spring 2022 TA sailings should be issued with the European sailings. There is no way to know for sure until they are released though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ourusualbeach Posted November 13, 2020 #469 Share Posted November 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, MADflyer said: The spring 2022 TA sailings should be issued with the European sailings. There is no way to know for sure until they are released though. When are the fall TP’s usually released Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kokomo91165 Posted November 13, 2020 #470 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Summer 2022 Caribbean Updates Liberty - 7 Night W Caribbean from Galveston Symphony - 7 Night E/W Caribbean from Miami Explorer - 7 Night E/W Caribbean from Miami Oasis - Cape Liberty Bahamas Cruises Harmony - 7 Night E/W Caribbean from Port Canaveral Mariner - Mixes Bahamas and Caribbean from Port Canaveral Interesting to note Allure is not listed. Rescheduled amplification occurring summer 2022 possibly in Cadiz. Med season predicted. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ourusualbeach Posted November 13, 2020 #471 Share Posted November 13, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Kokomo91165 said: Summer 2022 Caribbean Updates Liberty - 7 Night W Caribbean from Galveston Symphony - 7 Night E/W Caribbean from Miami Explorer - 7 Night E/W Caribbean from Miami Oasis - Cape Liberty Bahamas Cruises Harmony - 7 Night E/W Caribbean from Port Canaveral Mariner - Mixes Bahamas and Caribbean from Port Canaveral Interesting to note Allure is not listed. Rescheduled amplification occurring summer 2022 possibly in Cadiz. Med season predicted. Deleted Edited November 13, 2020 by Ourusualbeach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted November 13, 2020 #472 Share Posted November 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, Ourusualbeach said: Wonder when and where Harmony is going in for her Mandatory 5 year drydock Does that timing stay the same...when she has been out of service for 8 months? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ourusualbeach Posted November 13, 2020 #473 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Just now, island lady said: Does that timing stay the same...when she has been out of service for 8 months? No I screwed up and lost a year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted November 14, 2020 #474 Share Posted November 14, 2020 16 hours ago, Ourusualbeach said: No I screwed up and lost a year You don't do that often (almost never...totally forgiven 😉 )....and once again appreciate all the help you give us. 🙂 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MommaBear55 Posted November 16, 2020 #475 Share Posted November 16, 2020 On 11/12/2020 at 6:45 PM, Ourusualbeach said: That was an old article you read. They closed the border until June 21, 2020. It is currently closed until Nov30th. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-canada-us-border-expected-to-stay-closed-to-non-essential-travel-to/ Thanks for the correction. We live 125 miles from the border and our area misses the business and we miss going to Canada 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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