Rare VMax1700 Posted September 1, 2020 #1 Share Posted September 1, 2020 The charters and group sailings organisations have been slowly updating their plans, so the information listed here may change over the coming months. The information on the HAL website is sometimes contradictory to the information posted by charter organisations (i.e. some dates which are shown as charters on the organiser's website is still available to book on the HAL website). A couple of things to note is that some Charters/Groups have posted their schedules, however HAL have not posted theirs (eg Nieuw Amsterdam, Caribbean Winter 2021 sailings). Also there is a 3 day gap in Zuiderdam's Spring 2021 schedule, between Sunday May 23rd (end of charter sailing in Lisbon) and Wednesday May 26th (start of new sailing from Civitavecchia). I am missing a lot of Dry Dock information, perhaps @Copper10-8will have some relevant information over the coming months. Please treat this posting as a 'Base Line' and it will be updated and amended as newer information comes to hand. As usual if you come across any information please post it to the thread for inclusion in the next update. (Nothing is in 'Red' this time as I have treated it as all 'New Information'!) PLANNED DRY DOCKS Eurodam : 29 November 2020 – 08 December 2020 : Dry Dock : Freeport, Bahamas LAST COMPLETED DRY DOCK Eurodam 08 April 2018 - 17 April 2018 Koningsdam 02 December 2018 - 09 December 2018 Nieuw Amsterdam 07 December 2017 - 19 December 2017 Nieuw Statendam Noordam 29 September 2019 – 13 October 2019 (10 April 2015 - 19 April 2015) Oosterdam 21 March 2018 - 02 April 2018 Rotterdam VII Volendam 18 – 31 October 2019 (24 November 2017 - 05 December 2017) Westerdam 04 January 2020 – 15 January 2020 (14 April 2017 - 26 April 2017) Zaandam 02 April 2018 - 13 April 2018 Zuiderdam 01 – 09 December 2019 (23 October 2017 – 04 November 2017) CHARTERS (i.e. full ship charters) Eurodam: 24 October 2021 – 31 October 2021 : Caribbean : Legendary Rhythm & Blues Cruise Koningsdam: Nieuw Amsterdam: 30 October 2021– 06 November 2021: Caribbean : Malt Shop Memories Cruise 06 November 2021 – 13 November 2021 : Caribbean : Sandy Beaches Cruise 13 November 2021 – 20 November 2021 : Caribbean : Country Music Cruise 22 January 2022 – 29 January 2022 : Caribbean : Soul Train Cruise 12 February 2022 – 19 February 2022 : Caribbean : All Star Irish Cruise 05 March 2022 – 12 March 2022 : Caribbean : JoCo Cruise Nieuw Statendam: Noordam: Oosterdam: Rotterdam VII : 29 January 2022 – 05 February 2022 : Caribbean : Legendary Rhythm & Blues Cruise. Volendam: Zuiderdam: 02 May 2021 – 09 May 2021 : Mediterranean : Dave Koz Cruise 09 May 2021 – 16 May 2021 : Mediterranean : Dave Koz Cruise 16 May 2021 – 23 May 2021 : Mediterranean : Dave Koz Cruise GROUPS ONBOARD Eurodam: 21 February 2021 – 28 February 2021 : Caribbean : MRC Conservative Group 28 February 2021 – 07 March 2021 : Caribbean : Quilting Group (B2B with 7 – 14 March) 07 March 2021 – 14 March 2021 : Caribbean : Quilting Group 17 July 2021 – 24 July 2021 : Alaska : Turning Point Ministries Group 24 July 2021 – 31 July 2021 : Alaska : Gaither Homecoming Group 31 July 2021 – 07 August 2021 : Alaska : Jeremy Camp/Inspiration Group 07 August 2021 – 14 August 2021 : Alaksa : Focal Point Ministries Group 21 August 2021 – 28 August 2021 : Alaska : Quilting Group 28 August 2021 – 04 September 2021 : Alaska : Deeper Faith Group Koningsdam: 09 January 2021 – 16 January 2021 : Mexican Riviera : Bridge Group 20 February 2021 – 27 February 2021 : Mexican Riviera : Continuing Eductation Group 17 April 2021 – 24 April 2021 : Mexican Riviera : Knitting Group Nieuw Amsterdam: 09 January 2021 – 16 January 2021 : Tropical Caribbean : Mercy Me at Sea Group 06 February 2021 – 13 February 2021 : Eastern Caribbean : Gospel Music Celebration 07 April 2021 – 14 April 2021 : Western Caribbean : Continuing Education Group Nieuw Statendam: 09 July 2021 – 19 July 2021 : Baltics : Quilting Group 09 October 2021 – 19 October 2021 : Mediterranean : Mark Steyn Group Noordam: 17 January 2021 – 30 January 2021 : South East Asia : Knitting Group 30 January 2021 – 13 February 2021 : China & Japan : Knitting Group Oosterdam: 09 May 2021 – 16 May 2021 : Alaska : Continuing Education Group 13 June 2021 – 20 June 2021 : Alaska : Quilting Group 20 June 2021 – 27 June 2021 : Alaska : Quilting Group 04 July 2021 – 11 July 2021 : Alaska : Continuing Education Group 15 August 2021 – 22 August 2021 : Alaska : Continuing Education Group Rotterdam VII: Westerdam: 30 January 2021 – 19 February 2021 : Antartica : Quilting Group Volendam: Zaandam: Zuiderdam: 03 February 2021 – 14 February 2021 : Panama Canal : Quilting Group If anyone has any further information, please post it here and I will include it in the next update. Thanks! E & O.E. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare VMax1700 Posted September 1, 2020 Author #2 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Here is the file if you wish to download it..... HAL (ship-date) dry docks September 2020.docx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himself Posted September 1, 2020 #3 Share Posted September 1, 2020 19 minutes ago, VMax1700 said: The charters and group sailings organisations have been slowly updating their plans, so the information listed here may change over the coming months. The information on the HAL website is sometimes contradictory to the information posted by charter organisations (i.e. some dates which are shown as charters on the organiser's website is still available to book on the HAL website). A couple of things to note is that some Charters/Groups have posted their schedules, however HAL have not posted theirs (eg Nieuw Amsterdam, Caribbean Winter 2021 sailings). Also there is a 3 day gap in Zuiderdam's Spring 2021 schedule, between Sunday May 23rd (end of charter sailing in Lisbon) and Wednesday May 26th (start of new sailing from Civitavecchia). I am missing a lot of Dry Dock information, perhaps @Copper10-8will have some relevant information over the coming months. Please treat this posting as a 'Base Line' and it will be updated and amended as newer information comes to hand. As usual if you come across any information please post it to the thread for inclusion in the next update. (Nothing is in 'Red' this time as I have treated it as all 'New Information'!) PLANNED DRY DOCKS Eurodam : 29 November 2020 – 08 December 2020 : Dry Dock : Freeport, Bahamas LAST COMPLETED DRY DOCK Eurodam 08 April 2018 - 17 April 2018 Koningsdam 02 December 2018 - 09 December 2018 Nieuw Amsterdam 07 December 2017 - 19 December 2017 Nieuw Statendam Noordam 29 September 2019 – 13 October 2019 (10 April 2015 - 19 April 2015) Oosterdam 21 March 2018 - 02 April 2018 Rotterdam VII Volendam 18 – 31 October 2019 (24 November 2017 - 05 December 2017) Westerdam 04 January 2020 – 15 January 2020 (14 April 2017 - 26 April 2017) Zaandam 02 April 2018 - 13 April 2018 Zuiderdam 01 – 09 December 2019 (23 October 2017 – 04 November 2017) CHARTERS (i.e. full ship charters) Eurodam: 24 October 2021 – 31 October 2021 : Caribbean : Legendary Rhythm & Blues Cruise Koningsdam: Nieuw Amsterdam: 30 October 2021– 06 November 2021: Caribbean : Malt Shop Memories Cruise 06 November 2021 – 13 November 2021 : Caribbean : Sandy Beaches Cruise 13 November 2021 – 20 November 2021 : Caribbean : Country Music Cruise 22 January 2022 – 29 January 2022 : Caribbean : Soul Train Cruise 12 February 2022 – 19 February 2022 : Caribbean : All Star Irish Cruise 05 March 2022 – 12 March 2022 : Caribbean : JoCo Cruise Nieuw Statendam: Noordam: Oosterdam: Rotterdam VII : 29 January 2022 – 05 February 2022 : Caribbean : Legendary Rhythm & Blues Cruise. Volendam: Zuiderdam: 02 May 2021 – 09 May 2021 : Mediterranean : Dave Koz Cruise 09 May 2021 – 16 May 2021 : Mediterranean : Dave Koz Cruise 16 May 2021 – 23 May 2021 : Mediterranean : Dave Koz Cruise GROUPS ONBOARD Eurodam: 21 February 2021 – 28 February 2021 : Caribbean : MRC Conservative Group 28 February 2021 – 07 March 2021 : Caribbean : Quilting Group (B2B with 7 – 14 March) 07 March 2021 – 14 March 2021 : Caribbean : Quilting Group 17 July 2021 – 24 July 2021 : Alaska : Turning Point Ministries Group 24 July 2021 – 31 July 2021 : Alaska : Gaither Homecoming Group 31 July 2021 – 07 August 2021 : Alaska : Jeremy Camp/Inspiration Group 07 August 2021 – 14 August 2021 : Alaksa : Focal Point Ministries Group 21 August 2021 – 28 August 2021 : Alaska : Quilting Group 28 August 2021 – 04 September 2021 : Alaska : Deeper Faith Group Koningsdam: 09 January 2021 – 16 January 2021 : Mexican Riviera : Bridge Group 20 February 2021 – 27 February 2021 : Mexican Riviera : Continuing Eductation Group 17 April 2021 – 24 April 2021 : Mexican Riviera : Knitting Group Nieuw Amsterdam: 09 January 2021 – 16 January 2021 : Tropical Caribbean : Mercy Me at Sea Group 06 February 2021 – 13 February 2021 : Eastern Caribbean : Gospel Music Celebration 07 April 2021 – 14 April 2021 : Western Caribbean : Continuing Education Group Nieuw Statendam: 09 July 2021 – 19 July 2021 : Baltics : Quilting Group 09 October 2021 – 19 October 2021 : Mediterranean : Mark Steyn Group Noordam: 17 January 2021 – 30 January 2021 : South East Asia : Knitting Group 30 January 2021 – 13 February 2021 : China & Japan : Knitting Group Oosterdam: 09 May 2021 – 16 May 2021 : Alaska : Continuing Education Group 13 June 2021 – 20 June 2021 : Alaska : Quilting Group 20 June 2021 – 27 June 2021 : Alaska : Quilting Group 04 July 2021 – 11 July 2021 : Alaska : Continuing Education Group 15 August 2021 – 22 August 2021 : Alaska : Continuing Education Group Rotterdam VII: Westerdam: 30 January 2021 – 19 February 2021 : Antartica : Quilting Group Volendam: Zaandam: Zuiderdam: 03 February 2021 – 14 February 2021 : Panama Canal : Quilting Group If anyone has any further information, please post it here and I will include it in the next update. Thanks! E & O.E. Dear VMax 1700: Where can I get information on the Irish Cruise on the Nieuw Amsterdam? Himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare VMax1700 Posted September 1, 2020 Author #4 Share Posted September 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Himself said: Dear VMax 1700: Where can I get information on the Irish Cruise on the Nieuw Amsterdam? Himself Here you are Father..... https://www.gertrudebyrnepromotions.com/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSR Posted September 1, 2020 #5 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Thanks for this information; must have taken a lot of work! I was wondering if (or when) you would start up your listings again...glad to see it! 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare erewhon Posted September 2, 2020 #6 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Thank you for taking time to post this helpful information. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Mary229 Posted September 3, 2020 #7 Share Posted September 3, 2020 Thanks for keeping this updated. Does anyone have informed speculation as to when the dry-docks will begin again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llbz327 Posted September 3, 2020 #8 Share Posted September 3, 2020 thank you for tour hard work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wearesiamese Posted September 4, 2020 #9 Share Posted September 4, 2020 Many of those cruises will not even be sailing so I wouldn't even worry about any cruise before Summer 2021 😞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted September 4, 2020 #10 Share Posted September 4, 2020 On 9/1/2020 at 6:28 AM, VMax1700 said: ........................................... I am missing a lot of Dry Dock information, perhaps @Copper10-8will have some relevant information over the coming months. ................................. Nada as of right now Mate! The 2021 sched has yet to be firmed up, the ships have to get to their future embarkation ports, as do the full crew that will man those ships, so a lot of work still has to be done. There are also ships who have already missed there 2020 dry-docks and a lot will also depend on open dry-dock space at yards like Grand Bahama, Singapore, Esquimalt, etc. I have a feeling a lot will depend on the experience of the two Carnival Plc Costa group branch companies AIDA and Costa who are just getting going with pax in Europe as well as their new protocols. There will no doubt be a lot of conference calls between Rostock, Germany (AIDA), Genoa, Italy (Costa) on one side and Miami, FL (Carnival), Seattle, WA(HAL) and the other branch locations on the other, as to those first experiences and potential tweaking of them 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semibeater Posted September 27, 2020 #11 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Is Botlek port in Rotterdam NL a drydock? Why has Zaandam been there for a week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAKcruiser Posted September 27, 2020 #12 Share Posted September 27, 2020 From what I understand, the Zaandam is in drydock. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kazu Posted September 27, 2020 #13 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Dave Koz has cancelled all three chartered cruises for May 2021 on the Zuiderdam. I saw his post on his site. It will be interesting to see what HAL does itinerary wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare VMax1700 Posted September 27, 2020 Author #14 Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 hour ago, kazu said: Dave Koz has cancelled all three chartered cruises for May 2021 on the Zuiderdam. I saw his post on his site. It will be interesting to see what HAL does itinerary wise. My first thought was 'Oh No, the Zuiderdam won't be sailing Europe in 2021!' But, reading his website, there is no indication that HAL had any input into the decision, apart from the mention of social distancing, which would make his prices unsustainable. Perhaps HAL are closer to a return to sailings than we thought. 🤞 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kazu Posted September 27, 2020 #15 Share Posted September 27, 2020 18 minutes ago, VMax1700 said: My first thought was 'Oh No, the Zuiderdam won't be sailing Europe in 2021!' But, reading his website, there is no indication that HAL had any input into the decision, apart from the mention of social distancing, which would make his prices unsustainable. Perhaps HAL are closer to a return to sailings than we thought. 🤞 It was definitely his decision. I was tempted on that TA if there had been another segment. Kind of a blessing there wasn’t as I think it’s too soon to go and quite delighted with the one I have in November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted September 28, 2020 #16 Share Posted September 28, 2020 7 hours ago, semibeater said: Is Botlek port in Rotterdam NL a drydock? Why has Zaandam been there for a week? The yard is called Damen-Verolme, NV and is located in the area known as Botlek near the cities of Vlaardingen and Spijkenisse. Botlek itself used to be known as a stretch of the Nieuwe Maas River (New Maas/Meuse River - remember, HAL's Maasdam got her name from the Maas River - There is the Nieuwe (new) Maas and the Oude (old) Maas River) Zaandam originally was scheduled for a 13-day dry-dock in April this year at the Grand Bahama shipyard. That was cancelled due to the pandemic. She appears to have found a vacancy at Damen-Verolme where she is receiving standard maintenance plus the ripping out of her Mix concept, to be replaced with a smaller version of Billboard Onboard, similar to what her only remaining sister, Volendam, received last October at Grand Bahama 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semibeater Posted September 28, 2020 #17 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Thanks for that info. Many of us are hoping that Zaandam stays in the fleet and based on this current maintenance that looks good for her sailings in 2021 and beyond. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare VMax1700 Posted September 28, 2020 Author #18 Share Posted September 28, 2020 14 hours ago, Copper10-8 said: The yard is called Damen-Verolme, NV and is located in the area known as Botlek near the cities of Vlaardingen and Spijkenisse Thank you for reminding me of Spijkenisse, John. I spent a memorable few days there, many years ago testing marine products in the harbour. Historically, it was the place that King William III (William of Orange) sailed to Ireland to defeat James and the Jacobites at the Battle of the Boyne 1690 (celebrated by Northern Ireland 'Orangemen') . I remember noticing a memorial on the roadway which mentioned it. Also it was the place that I discovered the 'other' dutch beer 'Oranjeboom'. 🍻 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himself Posted September 28, 2020 #19 Share Posted September 28, 2020 16 hours ago, Copper10-8 said: The yard is called Damen-Verolme, NV and is located in the area known as Botlek near the cities of Vlaardingen and Spijkenisse. Botlek itself used to be known as a stretch of the Nieuwe Maas River (New Maas/Meuse River - remember, HAL's Maasdam got her name from the Maas River - There is the Nieuwe (new) Maas and the Oude (old) Maas River) Zaandam originally was scheduled for a 13-day dry-dock in April this year at the Grand Bahama shipyard. That was cancelled due to the pandemic. She appears to have found a vacancy at Damen-Verolme where she is receiving standard maintenance plus the ripping out of her Mix concept, to be replaced with a smaller version of Billboard Onboard, similar to what her only remaining sister, Volendam, received last October at Grand Bahama Thanks for the information John. I suspected she must be in for either a dry dock or a wet dock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himself Posted September 28, 2020 #20 Share Posted September 28, 2020 2 hours ago, VMax1700 said: Thank you for reminding me of Spijkenisse, John. I spent a memorable few days there, many years ago testing marine products in the harbour. Historically, it was the place that King William III (William of Orange) sailed to Ireland to defeat James and the Jacobites at the Battle of the Boyne 1690 (celebrated by Northern Ireland 'Orangemen') . I remember noticing a memorial on the roadway which mentioned it. Also it was the place that I discovered the 'other' dutch beer 'Oranjeboom'. 🍻 You are a well travelled Irishman and steeped in Irish History as was Tommy Makem, the Lord have mercy on him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare VMax1700 Posted October 3, 2020 Author #21 Share Posted October 3, 2020 *** THREAD CLOSED *** Please post any further updates to the October thread here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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