Rare jimbo5544 Posted September 30, 2020 #1 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Hmmmmmmm https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/23582-november-cruises-may-hinge-on-potential-friday-white-house-meeting.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisingguy007 Posted September 30, 2020 #2 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Hope this goes well! A November return to sailing announcement is politically expedient. It's the best of both worlds as it allows a goodwill gesture and is also perfectly timed to not affect the reelection efforts should something go awry. It won't matter at that point since the election would be over. It's a good compromise move that is pro-worker, pro-business and an insurance policy at the same time. I don't anticipate there being any impediments to sailing resuming in November. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostwick girl Posted October 1, 2020 #3 Share Posted October 1, 2020 I’ll have my bags packed and be ready to get tested for our November 2 cruise. Guess we will be the test group! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricane0226 Posted October 1, 2020 #4 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Hope you are able to sail, I am on the Nov 21st sailing on the Breeze, so will see. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mlshum Posted October 1, 2020 #5 Share Posted October 1, 2020 (edited) I volunteer as tribute! Edited October 1, 2020 by mlshum 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdr69 Posted October 1, 2020 #6 Share Posted October 1, 2020 cross your fingers and pray....🤞🤞🙏🙏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pe4all Posted October 1, 2020 #7 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Would love to be a fly on the wall at that meeting! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyFan33579 Posted October 1, 2020 #8 Share Posted October 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, fyree39 said: WSJ has a blurb in this morning's paper that the White House blocked the CDC's efforts to extend the ban. I'll go find it and actually read it... There are a bunch of articles online that discuss Pence telling the CDC no to their plan to extend the no sail order thru February. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyFan33579 Posted October 1, 2020 #9 Share Posted October 1, 2020 14 hours ago, jimbo5544 said: Hmmmmmmm https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/23582-november-cruises-may-hinge-on-potential-friday-white-house-meeting.html I still don’t understand the CDC’s obsession with keeping cruise lines from sailing from US ports. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MeganGC1983 Posted October 1, 2020 #10 Share Posted October 1, 2020 (edited) Good Morning America states that “cruising WILL resume after the Halloween deadline”. Hopefully we find out the details after Friday’s meeting, and we sail on!! 🎉🎊🛳 Edited October 1, 2020 by MeganGC1983 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted October 1, 2020 Author #11 Share Posted October 1, 2020 17 minutes ago, PhillyFan33579 said: I still don’t understand the CDC’s obsession with keeping cruise lines from sailing from US ports. They view it as unnecessary, if they can eliminate it from happening it makes it easier. I thought their wording of the the extension to be very telling. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pe4all Posted October 1, 2020 #12 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Well, we don't have to wait for the meeting anymore, with cancellations from all ports but Miami/PC through 12/31 by Carnival. Will be interesting to see what other lines do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted October 1, 2020 #13 Share Posted October 1, 2020 2 hours ago, PhillyFan33579 said: I still don’t understand the CDC’s obsession with keeping cruise lines from sailing from US ports. Probably understand that hospital capacities are already stretched and a worst case cruise ship scenario would leave many cases to die. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanmarcosman Posted October 1, 2020 #14 Share Posted October 1, 2020 4 hours ago, PhillyFan33579 said: I still don’t understand the CDC’s obsession with keeping cruise lines from sailing from US ports. This was posted on another CDC related thread and may help explain the difference between sailings in Europe v the U.S. On 9/30/2020 at 7:05 AM, Linda the Book Lover said: It is time to cruise, period. MSC is doing well in Europe and added another ship to their sailings. Yes, there are still cases popping up but I think especially since one could fly all of these months we should also be able to cruise with a good protocol in place. Again, the big difference is that Europe has universal health care, and the EU has agreed that the cruise lines can make agreements with local public health agencies to care for ill passengers and quarantine those who need it. In the US, with our public hospitals run by for profit corporations, and not having universal health care, the CDC does not want cruise ships to overburden that local, state, or federal health care system, and so requires that ill passengers and those needing quarantine be handled by private firms contracted to the cruise lines. Until just recently, when the advisory board recommended that this be adopted, the cruise lines had fought tooth and nail against it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted October 1, 2020 #15 Share Posted October 1, 2020 They think parts of Europe may have peaked for the second wave which could be a sign that it isn't worse than the first. Now if only the US could get out of the first wave. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProgRockCruiser Posted October 1, 2020 #16 Share Posted October 1, 2020 40 minutes ago, BlerkOne said: They think parts of Europe may have peaked for the second wave which could be a sign that it isn't worse than the first. Now if only the US could get out of the first wave. Daily New Case wise, this second wave is far worse than the first for France and Spain, whereas Germany and Italy have done a far better job keeping it contained. Europe as a whole is doing worse on the second wave. Death Rate wise it is far better all around - I believe the consensus is that medical staff know how to treat it better, and it is hitting a younger (healthier) crowd now. It is still early days in the "dip since peak" - October will be a very telling month for Europe, IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouche Posted October 1, 2020 #17 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Carnival Cruise Line’s return to service plan and CLIA’s guiding principles will serve as the foundation. Some of the elements you can expect are the following: 100% testing of all guests and team members Policies with regard to wearing masks by all guests and team members, in designated venues and environments on board the ship and during shore excursions Enhanced medical staffing, facilities, equipment, onboard testing capabilities and quarantine/isolation resources Shore excursions limited to only those providers who can uphold our own protocols and denied boarding to guests who fail to abide by shore excursion protocols. So, will Carnival be providing Covid-19 rapid test or will we be required to have proof of our own test before we are allowed to board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProgRockCruiser Posted October 1, 2020 #18 Share Posted October 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, mouche said: Carnival Cruise Line’s return to service plan and CLIA’s guiding principles will serve as the foundation. Some of the elements you can expect are the following: 100% testing of all guests and team members Policies with regard to wearing masks by all guests and team members, in designated venues and environments on board the ship and during shore excursions Enhanced medical staffing, facilities, equipment, onboard testing capabilities and quarantine/isolation resources Shore excursions limited to only those providers who can uphold our own protocols and denied boarding to guests who fail to abide by shore excursion protocols. So, will Carnival be providing Covid-19 rapid test or will we be required to have proof of our own test before we are allowed to board? No-one knows, at least beyond the cones of silence at Carnival HQ. Could be both. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted October 1, 2020 #19 Share Posted October 1, 2020 4 hours ago, mouche said: So, will Carnival be providing Covid-19 rapid test or will we be required to have proof of our own test before we are allowed to board? yes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coevan Posted October 1, 2020 #20 Share Posted October 1, 2020 If my math is correct and they can do the test in 15 minutes, 3,000 tests would take 45,000 minutes or 750 hours, even a 5 minute test would be 250 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isasprings Posted October 1, 2020 #21 Share Posted October 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, coevan said: If my math is correct and they can do the test in 15 minutes, 3,000 tests would take 45,000 minutes or 750 hours, even a 5 minute test would be 250 hours. I think they not going to sail with full capacity 50% or 60% only. I’m ready to book a cruise out my home port Miami maybe the second or third sailing. Let’s see what happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted October 2, 2020 #22 Share Posted October 2, 2020 29 minutes ago, coevan said: If my math is correct and they can do the test in 15 minutes, 3,000 tests would take 45,000 minutes or 750 hours, even a 5 minute test would be 250 hours. Perhaps if one person did everything sequentially. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joebucks Posted October 2, 2020 #23 Share Posted October 2, 2020 11 hours ago, PhillyFan33579 said: I still don’t understand the CDC’s obsession with keeping cruise lines from sailing from US ports. Their only job is to prevent the spread of COVID. Not support the cruise industry. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyFan33579 Posted October 2, 2020 #24 Share Posted October 2, 2020 14 minutes ago, Joebucks said: Their only job is to prevent the spread of COVID. Not support the cruise industry. Then they all should be fired since they haven’t prevented a thing when it comes to this virus. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricane0226 Posted October 2, 2020 #25 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Protest and riots also, and football games 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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