Djb4CC Posted September 9, 2022 #1 Share Posted September 9, 2022 For those following along, there have now been changes on the HAL website regarding the health protocols on Sept 1, Sept 6, Sept 8 and now Sept 9. if you have recently looked at the faq and the enhanced document pdf, there have been changes. seems like the communications have been handled very poorly regarding all of this. They wanted to jump the gun without thinking through the issues for their customers. Really would hate to be a PCC or TA this last week or so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mightycruisequeen Posted September 9, 2022 #2 Share Posted September 9, 2022 (edited) Now if they could just fix the online check-in debacle, that'd be so great! Edited September 9, 2022 by mightycruisequeen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 0106 Posted September 9, 2022 #3 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Here’s the link to the updated pdf https://www.hollandamerica.com/content/dam/hal/inventory-assets/Health_Sanitation/2022/enhanced-health-protocol-090922.pdf 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greysandy Posted September 9, 2022 #4 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Has anyone found out what HAL defines as "fully vaccinated?" I had the first two Pfizer, and then a Moderna booster, but didn't really want to get the 4th or now 5th shots that are available. Thanks, Sandy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susanmaz Posted September 9, 2022 #5 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Interesting that DH tested positive this morning, which falls in the 8-90 day preembarkation timeframe listed by HAL. We can show a photo of a negative result using a home test. What does that mean? Just that it makes my life more difficult since he isa Luddite and doesn’t use a phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AryMay Posted September 9, 2022 #6 Share Posted September 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Djb4CC said: For those following along, there have now been changes on the HAL website regarding the health protocols on Sept 1, Sept 6, Sept 8 and now Sept 9. if you have recently looked at the faq and the enhanced document pdf, there have been changes. seems like the communications have been handled very poorly regarding all of this. They wanted to jump the gun without thinking through the issues for their customers. Really would hate to be a PCC or TA this last week or so. I started a different thread after trying to find the protocols for full transit Panama Canal cruises. I think these cruises should be part of the enhanced protocols (as they are calling them) but other than a slight mention in a press release from August 15th I can't find anything on the website. I thought this oversight would be corrected on this newest update but I don't see it if it is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coquitlam Cruiser Posted September 9, 2022 #7 Share Posted September 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, AryMay said: I started a different thread after trying to find the protocols for full transit Panama Canal cruises. I think these cruises should be part of the enhanced protocols (as they are calling them) but other than a slight mention in a press release from August 15th I can't find anything on the website. I thought this oversight would be corrected on this newest update but I don't see it if it is. The Nieuw Amsterdam departing San Diego Oct 8 shows Enhanced Protocol applies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare The-Inside-Cabin Posted September 9, 2022 #8 Share Posted September 9, 2022 (edited) Australia changed their COVID testing requirements yesterday - 8 Sept No more testing required - Hoping HAL will update their protocols soon Entering and leaving Australia (homeaffairs.gov.au) International travel and COVID-19 | Australian Government Department of Health and Aged Care Edited September 9, 2022 by The-Inside-Cabin 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeniEncinitas Posted September 9, 2022 #9 Share Posted September 9, 2022 🌺🌺🌺🌺🌺🌺🌺 that is good news👍👍. Looking into a cruise there next year!!!! Now I hope for Panama Canal cruises they will also do no more testing👍 Appreciated your in depth blog on your last cruise. So enjoyed it and the food porn! Denise😊 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugmother Posted September 10, 2022 #10 Share Posted September 10, 2022 I am confused. Wouldn’t Panama Canal cruises be listed under “Enhanced Protocols”? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare rafinmd Posted September 10, 2022 #11 Share Posted September 10, 2022 15 minutes ago, pugmother said: I am confused. Wouldn’t Panama Canal cruises be listed under “Enhanced Protocols”? I THINK full transits are Enhanced and Caribbean-Gatun-Caribbean trips are regular. I don't understand why but that appears to be the case. It looks like the list only goes up to EARLY January, and I wouldn't be surprised if there are further changes to the protocols. Roy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retird Posted September 10, 2022 #12 Share Posted September 10, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Greysandy said: Has anyone found out what HAL defines as "fully vaccinated?" I had the first two Pfizer, and then a Moderna booster, but didn't really want to get the 4th or now 5th shots that are available. Thanks, Sandy From their website: Fully vaccinated means that a guest received all the doses in an authorized or approved primary COVID-19 vaccine series at least 14 days prior to embarkation. by this definition you are fully vacvinated Edited September 10, 2022 by retird 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugmother Posted September 10, 2022 #13 Share Posted September 10, 2022 20 minutes ago, rafinmd said: I THINK full transits are Enhanced and Caribbean-Gatun-Caribbean trips are regular. I don't understand why but that appears to be the case. It looks like the list only goes up to EARLY January, and I wouldn't be surprised if there are further changes to the protocols. Roy I am on a 18 day PARTIAL transit December 10. As of now because of the length I will still have to test. Hopefully things will change once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
likeadisguise Posted September 10, 2022 #14 Share Posted September 10, 2022 5 hours ago, Greysandy said: Has anyone found out what HAL defines as "fully vaccinated?" I had the first two Pfizer, and then a Moderna booster, but didn't really want to get the 4th or now 5th shots that are available. Thanks, Sandy "Fully vaccinated" means you've completed your primary series of COVID vaccinations (two shots Moderna or Pfizer, one shot J&J) at least 14 days before cruise embarkation. "Up-to-date" means you're fully vaccinated AND, if eligible for a booster, have received at least one booster dose. This is required for what they're calling the "Enhanced Voyages" 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Gail & Marty sailing away Posted September 10, 2022 #15 Share Posted September 10, 2022 8 hours ago, 0106 said: Here’s the link to the updated pdf https://www.hollandamerica.com/content/dam/hal/inventory-assets/Health_Sanitation/2022/enhanced-health-protocol-090922.pdf Thanks for sharing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcat04 Posted September 11, 2022 #16 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Thank you to HAL for putting this together and to you for posting it OP. This is helpful. Now we know our 4 year old does not need to be tested. Canada didn't require it even on cruise ships so that previous requirement puzzled us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nang Posted September 11, 2022 #17 Share Posted September 11, 2022 On 9/10/2022 at 11:03 AM, pugmother said: I am on a 18 day PARTIAL transit December 10. As of now because of the length I will still have to test. Hopefully things will change once again. Are you sure that you need to be tested? There is no mention of cruise length in the current testing guidelines and there are no cruises departing on 10 December listed in the enhanced protocols. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugmother Posted September 11, 2022 #18 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Maybe they changed the rules. I thought that cruises longer than 16 days required you to test. You are correct. Now that I read the current rules it does not mention anything about cruise duration rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyBerard Posted September 11, 2022 #19 Share Posted September 11, 2022 On 9/9/2022 at 10:55 PM, likeadisguise said: "Fully vaccinated" means you've completed your primary series of COVID vaccinations (two shots Moderna or Pfizer, one shot J&J) at least 14 days before cruise embarkation. "Up-to-date" means you're fully vaccinated AND, if eligible for a booster, have received at least one booster dose. This is required for what they're calling the "Enhanced Voyages" Although cruising on Royal Caribbean for NE/Canada cruise in two weeks, why does Holland state that you must have received a booster if initial shots more than 5 months old for Canada? I have read Canada's covid protocols, and do not see where they state that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare habenicd Posted September 11, 2022 #20 Share Posted September 11, 2022 3 hours ago, LadyBerard said: Although cruising on Royal Caribbean for NE/Canada cruise in two weeks, why does Holland state that you must have received a booster if initial shots more than 5 months old for Canada? I have read Canada's covid protocols, and do not see where they state that. I would be interested in this answer as my brother and sister-in-law are on HAL Oct 5 to NE/Canada and have been told they have to have a booster (3rd shot for them overall) to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indybelle Posted September 11, 2022 #21 Share Posted September 11, 2022 It's confusing. We are on the Oosterdam Oct. 10-Nov. 5. The leg Oct. 10-22 is not on the Enhanced Protocol list. The next two legs from Trieste to Barcelona (and the TransAt) do. Instructions state that if any part of your voyage is listed in the Enhanced Protocols, you fall under them. Hence, even though our Oct. 10 voyage is not listed, we apparently are required to present a test prior to boarding on the 10th. What I don't understand is none of the countries we visit require any covid vaccines or tests to enter, even Greece (gr.usembassy.gov). So I'm still trying to figure out why the testing. I'm not against it, but I just can't make sense of the why, and of course it could change. Anyone have an answer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyJude408 Posted September 12, 2022 #22 Share Posted September 12, 2022 18 hours ago, habenicd said: I would be interested in this answer as my brother and sister-in-law are on HAL Oct 5 to NE/Canada and have been told they have to have a booster (3rd shot for them overall) to go. When I saw the Enhanced Protocol document on HAL's website, I too was worried. We embark on 9/18/22 for Alaska from Seattle and I interpreted the same as you - needing a booster if the last was taken over 5 months ago! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisemom42 Posted September 12, 2022 #23 Share Posted September 12, 2022 19 hours ago, indybelle said: What I don't understand is none of the countries we visit require any covid vaccines or tests to enter, even Greece (gr.usembassy.gov). So I'm still trying to figure out why the testing. I'm not against it, but I just can't make sense of the why, and of course it could change. Anyone have an answer? Country requirements for entry can differ for cruise ships versus for other types of entry (just look at Canada, for example.) Same is true here. Greece is apparently requiring all cruise passengers who will be visiting a port in Greece (regardless of embarkation point or length of cruise) to present a positive test result (from a monitored test) prior to boarding. The cruise lines vary slightly in how they are presenting this info, but so far I am seeing that Princess and Celebrity also have the same requirement in addition to HAL. It is not an error on HAL's part. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocoLoco1 Posted September 12, 2022 #24 Share Posted September 12, 2022 There’s some inaccurate Info here and there about ‘The Rules’ for HAL’s various cruises around the World. You’ve been warned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodndonna Posted September 12, 2022 #25 Share Posted September 12, 2022 On 9/9/2022 at 4:46 PM, Djb4CC said: if you have recently looked at the faq and the enhanced document pdf, there have been changes. seems like the communications have been handled very poorly regarding all of this I really like the pdf, it seems to make it things pretty clear what rules apply based on what cruse you are on doesn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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