Rare go.without.you Posted October 31, 2022 #51 Share Posted October 31, 2022 On 10/27/2022 at 11:30 AM, Jim_Iain said: Reflection just came out of Dry Dock and no retreat deck was added. They painted the hull, did normal maintenance and sea trials, refreshed soft goods and looks like some work in the OVC. Celebrity currently has all future Revolutions on hold until they return to profitability. BOOOOOO! I was really hoping for a retreat deck. Guess I'll have to suck it up and hope my corner aft has shade when I want it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare terrydtx Posted October 31, 2022 #52 Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, go.without.you said: BOOOOOO! I was really hoping for a retreat deck. Guess I'll have to suck it up and hope my corner aft has shade when I want it. Unless Celebrity returns to profitability in the next couple of years, the Revolutionizing of the remaining M & S class ships may never happen as the older ships in the fleet age and possibly get sold off. Over $300 million dollars in net profits are needed to finish the Revolutionizing program. Edited October 31, 2022 by terrydtx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare go.without.you Posted October 31, 2022 #53 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 minute ago, terrydtx said: Unless Celebrity returns to profitability in the next couple of years, the Revolutionizing of the remaining M & S class ships may never happen as the older ships in the fleet age and possibly get sold off. Over $300 million dollars in net profits are needed to finish the Revolutionizing program. Yeah, I get it. It would have been so easy to just add a key card gate and some signs tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare OysterD Posted October 31, 2022 #54 Share Posted October 31, 2022 25 minutes ago, go.without.you said: Yeah, I get it. It would have been so easy to just add a key card gate and some signs tho. That's true, and probably wouldn't have cost too much to add some more potted plants and more comfortable furniture up there BUT would that make it a 'Retreat deck'? You'd end up with several versions of Retreat Decks, from those on the Edge class to what they've done on the handful of revolutionised ships and then down to simply a gate with slightly different furniture. Would that be much of a selling point? Would people in suite class expecting a separate bar, hot tub etc be sorely disappointed to find it was basically just the same as it was before but with a gate? That part of the S class ships is currently very underutilised though, very few people using it on Reflection last month. The busiest I ever saw it was late one night while docked in Istanbul when it was roped off and the crew had a party up there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare go.without.you Posted October 31, 2022 #55 Share Posted October 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, OysterD said: That's true, and probably wouldn't have cost too much to add some more potted plants and more comfortable furniture up there BUT would that make it a 'Retreat deck'? You'd end up with several versions of Retreat Decks, from those on the Edge class to what they've done on the handful of revolutionised ships and then down to simply a gate with slightly different furniture. Would that be much of a selling point? Would people in suite class expecting a separate bar, hot tub etc be sorely disappointed to find it was basically just the same as it was before but with a gate? That part of the S class ships is currently very underutilised though, very few people using it on Reflection last month. The busiest I ever saw it was late one night while docked in Istanbul when it was roped off and the crew had a party up there! The retreat deck on Equinox was nice because the servers came around frequently. You could order lunch/snacks from the Retreat menu and drinks. There wasn't a bar, pool or hot tub but attentive service compared to the regular deck areas. That's a big selling point to avoid the crowded deck and line at the bar on a busy sea day. With it not being a regular deck I'm pretty sure the servers don't go up there, therefore most people don't sit there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Airbalancer Posted October 31, 2022 #56 Share Posted October 31, 2022 2 hours ago, go.without.you said: Yeah, I get it. It would have been so easy to just add a key card gate and some signs tho. I am glad they didn’t do the Revolutionizing on the Reflection 😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jzad Posted October 31, 2022 #57 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Following along, thank you for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare terrydtx Posted October 31, 2022 #58 Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, go.without.you said: The retreat deck on Equinox was nice because the servers came around frequently. You could order lunch/snacks from the Retreat menu and drinks. There wasn't a bar, pool or hot tub but attentive service compared to the regular deck areas. That's a big selling point to avoid the crowded deck and line at the bar on a busy sea day. With it not being a regular deck I'm pretty sure the servers don't go up there, therefore most people don't sit there. We were in the Retreat on the Equinox in August last year; it was so hot with zero shade that we couldn't stay long, and bar service was from the pool bar and by the time we got our drinks the ice had melted, and it was not worth staying. On the non-E Class Revolutionized ships, IMHO the Retreat sun deck is a joke and not worth what Celebrity spent to do the conversion. Edited October 31, 2022 by terrydtx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odysee Posted October 31, 2022 #59 Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) On Reflection since couple of hours. Disappointed about “refresh” : still old and partly dirty upholstery/carpet in concierge room with faux leather parts badly damaged. Did not even have deep clean : cupboards with finger prints, smears and the occasional hair. But I won t let it spoil my cruise. Not worth raising a fuzz about it, just a bit of own elbow grease and then I know what has been done. Lucky I brought some cleaning cloths and disinfectant (though I caught some flak about it at airport security as it was in my handluggage,but was OK after testing). Ship is nicely decorated for Halloween. Lots of relatively new crew on board, being instructed or having to check back. Edited October 31, 2022 by odysee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwokpot Posted October 31, 2022 #60 Share Posted October 31, 2022 3 hours ago, odysee said: On Reflection since couple of hours. Disappointed about “refresh” : still old and partly dirty upholstery/carpet in concierge room with faux leather parts badly damaged. Did not even have deep clean : cupboards with finger prints, smears and the occasional hair. But I won t let it spoil my cruise. Not worth raising a fuzz about it, just a bit of own elbow grease and then I know what has been done. Lucky I brought some cleaning cloths and disinfectant (though I caught some flak about it at airport security as it was in my handluggage,but was OK after testing). Ship is nicely decorated for Halloween. Lots of relatively new crew on board, being instructed or having to check back. What do you mean about Concierge Room? Do you mean Michael's Club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted October 31, 2022 #61 Share Posted October 31, 2022 45 minutes ago, kwokpot said: What do you mean about Concierge Room? Do you mean Michael's Club? Michael's looks really good. Sure what was meant was CClass cabin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted October 31, 2022 #62 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Captain advised during pre-cruise briefing announcement that we have 1200 crew ... a handful below full complement. Some are definitely inexperienced on S class, but showing lots of hustle. We're only about 75% booked, which helps. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted October 31, 2022 #63 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Interesting.. bartender says only ~1400 booked. When we left, only 25% of cabins still available for booking. Did X limit capacity or was bartender wrong. Will investigate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tom-n-Cheryl Posted October 31, 2022 #64 Share Posted October 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, canderson said: Interesting.. bartender says only ~1400 booked. When we left, only 25% of cabins still available for booking. Did X limit capacity or was bartender wrong. Will investigate! We had just under 900 in February, I know we won't be so lucky come Thanksgiving ! Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwokpot Posted October 31, 2022 #65 Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) 45 minutes ago, canderson said: Michael's looks really good. Sure what was meant was CClass cabin. Are we to assume there was no renovation done to Michael's club? Edit: Photo of Michael's Club back in March. Edited October 31, 2022 by kwokpot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Jim_Iain Posted October 31, 2022 #66 Share Posted October 31, 2022 I use an app that a Retreat Host, John Escobar, recommended called Windy. Shows projected wave height wind etc. you can also put map in motion out 5 days or so looks like you are going to have a rough ride. ponta Delgado Saturday wave heights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giraffeluver Posted November 1, 2022 #67 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Following along. I may do the TA in April to Barcelona so getting a feel for this ship. Would it be safe enough for a 60 something woman alone to ramble around Barcelona? And, does anyone recommend a hotel or rental apt. there. Considering a sunset balcony cabin, what are the thoughts on this? Thanks. Can't wait for more info from Barcelona to FLL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lola2013 Posted November 1, 2022 #68 Share Posted November 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, giraffeluver said: Following along. I may do the TA in April to Barcelona so getting a feel for this ship. Would it be safe enough for a 60 something woman alone to ramble around Barcelona? And, does anyone recommend a hotel or rental apt. there. Considering a sunset balcony cabin, what are the thoughts on this? Thanks. Can't wait for more info from Barcelona to FLL. Sunset Verandah is the only way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare terrydtx Posted November 1, 2022 #69 Share Posted November 1, 2022 5 hours ago, Tom-n-Cheryl said: We had just under 900 in February, I know we won't be so lucky come Thanksgiving ! Tom We had 1200 in August on the Reflection, but all suites were booked 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzbo Posted November 1, 2022 Author #70 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Check in was a breeze yesterday. Very well organized. We were docked behind the Mein Schiff Herz, originally the Celebrity Mercury. I took a few photos of menus on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise a holic Posted November 1, 2022 #71 Share Posted November 1, 2022 20 hours ago, go.without.you said: The retreat deck on Equinox was nice because the servers came around frequently. You could order lunch/snacks from the Retreat menu and drinks. There wasn't a bar, pool or hot tub but attentive service compared to the regular deck areas. That's a big selling point to avoid the crowded deck and line at the bar on a busy sea day. With it not being a regular deck I'm pretty sure the servers don't go up there, therefore most people don't sit there. We tried the retreat deck on the Equinox but it was very hot and sunny . It really was a waste for us. We booked a cabana instead for a couple of days. Also got service from the Cabana attendent and the enclosure was cool and very comfortable. Lacking however a water feature- but restrooms were close by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl94 Posted November 1, 2022 #72 Share Posted November 1, 2022 23 minutes ago, Cruise a holic said: We tried the retreat deck on the Equinox but it was very hot and sunny . It really was a waste for us. We booked a cabana instead for a couple of days. Also got service from the Cabana attendent and the enclosure was cool and very comfortable. Lacking however a water feature- but restrooms were close by. I see very many complaints about the Retreat deck on S class ships being too hot with no shelter and many reports of it being under utilised. A great shame as it was liked by so many when open to all, it was very busy on every single cruise we have been on and a great place to escape the noise around the pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare SRQbeachgirl Posted November 2, 2022 #73 Share Posted November 2, 2022 On 10/31/2022 at 5:52 PM, Jim_Iain said: I use an app that a Retreat Host, John Escobar, recommended called Windy. Shows projected wave height wind etc. you can also put map in motion out 5 days or so looks like you are going to have a rough ride. ponta Delgado Saturday wave heights Windy is a great app. I used it during Hurricane Ian and got up-to-the-minute wind speeds as it ripped the clay tiles off our roof, destroyed my car parked in the driveway, and deposited our pool cage somewhere over the Gulf. Looking forward to reading this review -- getting excited for our first Celebrity cruise on Reflection in January! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzbo Posted November 2, 2022 Author #74 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Between wi-fi issues and CC login problems, I have some catching up to do! We’ve just been given clearance to leave the ship. Today we are doing Chef’s Market Discoveries. Looking forward to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzbo Posted November 2, 2022 Author #75 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Yesterday we took the bus into Valencia. The port is a working port, so walking is not practical (plus it’s quite a distance from town). 10 euros each round trip. We were looking forward to the market, but yesterday was a holiday (All Saints Day), so it was closed. We still enjoyed the old part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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