AndyMichelle Posted August 28, 2023 #126 Share Posted August 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, Dermotsgirl said: Bearing in mind that there’s 5000 passengers, it would take some time to sift out those that would volunteer to go home early. From a logistical point of view, it’s be easier and quicker to have a list of passengers and crew that would have to leave, whether they like it or not. Very unfortunate if someone doesn’t want to go, though It can't be as cut and dried as that. We cruise because Michelle can't fly, she is having panic attacks here in case it ever happened to us and we are sitting at home😂 Andy 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFM334 Posted August 28, 2023 #127 Share Posted August 28, 2023 My dad has had it confirmed by reception that no one will be forced off the boat if they don’t want to fly 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dermotsgirl Posted August 28, 2023 #128 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Just now, AndyMichelle said: It can't be as cut and dried as that. We cruise because Michelle can't fly, she is having panic attacks here in case it ever happened to us and we are sitting at home😂 Andy No doubt there will have to be exceptions, but even resolving the exceptions is a logistical challenge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl94 Posted August 28, 2023 #129 Share Posted August 28, 2023 From that letter I would guess the next cruise will be cancelled and a shipyard visit necessary. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dermotsgirl Posted August 28, 2023 #130 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Just now, BigAl94 said: From that letter I would guess the next cruise will be cancelled and a shipyard visit necessary. If I was on the next cruise, I would be bracing myself for the news that it might not happen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flowerpower22 Posted August 28, 2023 #131 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Yep - currently thinking about where we can go instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dermotsgirl Posted August 28, 2023 #132 Share Posted August 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, JFM334 said: My dad has had it confirmed by reception that no one will be forced off the boat if they don’t want to fly I’ve resolved never to fly again, and would rather chew off my right arm that set foot on a plane again. But I could fly if it was absolutely necessary, so, if asked, I would probably say yes 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisdriving Posted August 28, 2023 #133 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Next cruise cancelled. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyMichelle Posted August 28, 2023 #134 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Seems 100 passengers and crew from deck 8, which is where the lifeboats live, are being flown home, doesn't seem like they had a choice. Andy 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zap99 Posted August 28, 2023 #135 Share Posted August 28, 2023 1 hour ago, nosapphire said: Can't see that happening. The number of liferatfts allow for one side of the ship to be pretty much unuseable and still get everybody off. Don't make the mistake of thinking that the emergency capacity is the same as the tender capacity, and don't forget the liferafts are not just the big ones used for tendering. Although if the itinerary has to be changed too much to allow for repairs, then the entire cruise may get cut short. In the (rare) instances when there has been a drama at sea or in port, invariably weather related (those mooring lines do go off with a bang when they snap) it leaves me feeling safer, rather than anxious, because it immediately becomes apparent how well trained and competent the officers and crew are to handle an emergency. The folk on board have received a letter that they may need to fly some passengers home as maritime law may compel them to reduce the number of passengers due to the damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josy1953 Posted August 28, 2023 #136 Share Posted August 28, 2023 25 minutes ago, HalifaxYorksCruiser said: Letter delivered to our cabin - deck 8 This is fine if you are able to fly. My husband has health issues that prevent him from flying which is why we cruise 3 or 4 times a year. I am absolutely sure that we are not the only ones in this position but it is a concern for us and others with health issues. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurpleMoonlight Posted August 28, 2023 #137 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Tell people the full cost of the cruise will be refunded and ask for volunteers, I'm sure they would be inundated. 😁 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplesea Posted August 28, 2023 #138 Share Posted August 28, 2023 We (7 of us) are not on the next cruise but the one after that, so fingers crossed she will sail🤞 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireballXL5 Posted August 28, 2023 #139 Share Posted August 28, 2023 How do you know the next cruise has be nan cancelled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancashire_cruisers Posted August 28, 2023 #140 Share Posted August 28, 2023 I don’t think people need to panic about being forced off the ship if they can’t or won’t fly. I’m pretty sure that if you were in the affected group and you can’t fly then P&O would look for volunteers to fill the quota. You would probably need to move cabin for muster reasons though. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Bare Posted August 28, 2023 #141 Share Posted August 28, 2023 36 minutes ago, HalifaxYorksCruiser said: Letter delivered to our cabin - deck 8 With human nature as it is, that'll be some queue at reception. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben785 Posted August 28, 2023 #142 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Things happen. I would rather be safe, i am sure that those impacted with having to leave the ship will have some sort of package offers to them regarding the shirting of their cruise and any future cruise discount. If the ship had sustained damage that it legally could not carry passengers then everyone would be flying home. But thankfully that is not the case. if they have to cancel a future cruise for a checkup. Then it has to be. People can kick and scream all they like. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molecrochip Posted August 28, 2023 #143 Share Posted August 28, 2023 52 minutes ago, heatherb1958 said: I hope the folks who are having to fly home are able to leave their main luggage onboard and it is delivered to their home..can you imagine the excess baggage charges.. I know we never travel light out of Southampton We are due on the next cruise.....then maybe we are not now. I will still pack until I hear otherwise. It will be a dedicated charter flight im told. P&O will pick up the full tab including luggage charges. 28 minutes ago, JFM334 said: My dad has had it confirmed by reception that no one will be forced off the boat if they don’t want to fly Correct - those who cannot fly won’t be forced. 25 minutes ago, Dermotsgirl said: If I was on the next cruise, I would be bracing myself for the news that it might not happen I’ve seen no notice that it’s cancelled yet. I would be expecting reduced capacity (if it was full). 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volty Posted August 28, 2023 #144 Share Posted August 28, 2023 32 minutes ago, Chrisdriving said: Next cruise cancelled. How do you know that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kermchem Posted August 28, 2023 #145 Share Posted August 28, 2023 1st September cruise is still listed on the website but is sold out. Which presumably either means it is sold out or cancelled. But, heh, the map on the website shows a port call where St Petersburg is. Itinerary updated, map not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare david63 Posted August 28, 2023 #146 Share Posted August 28, 2023 25 minutes ago, AndyMichelle said: Seems 100 passengers and crew from deck 8, which is where the lifeboats live, are being flown home, doesn't seem like they had a choice. Andy But if one lifeboat is out of service then there will need to be considerably more than 100 being flown home as, from memory, a lifeboat when used as a lifeboat and not a tender carries around 400 persons. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare david63 Posted August 28, 2023 #147 Share Posted August 28, 2023 1 hour ago, bobstheboy said: Many questions to be answered by the Captain me thinks. Bear in mind that all decisions, except emergency ones, have to be authorised by Carnival operations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josy1953 Posted August 28, 2023 #148 Share Posted August 28, 2023 15 minutes ago, lancashire_cruisers said: I don’t think people need to panic about being forced off the ship if they can’t or won’t fly. I’m pretty sure that if you were in the affected group and you can’t fly then P&O would look for volunteers to fill the quota. You would probably need to move cabin for muster reasons though. It is not that simple for non-flyers. Who is going to take responsibility for finding us a way home that does'nt involve flying if everyone has to be disembarked. The last time we flew the plane was met at Manchester by an ambulance to take DH to hospital and we wouldn't want a repeat of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyMichelle Posted August 28, 2023 #149 Share Posted August 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, david63 said: But if one lifeboat is out of service then there will need to be considerably more than 100 being flown home as, from memory, a lifeboat when used as a lifeboat and not a tender carries around 400 persons. Perhaps they can relocate some but not all? Moley also stated the capacity of the lifeboats and inflatables is larger. Just passing on what is reported supposedly from passengers onboard. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalos Posted August 28, 2023 Author #150 Share Posted August 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, david63 said: But if one lifeboat is out of service then there will need to be considerably more than 100 being flown home as, from memory, a lifeboat when used as a lifeboat and not a tender carries around 400 persons. And other equipment for those 400 pax . https://youtu.be/5yY2iuh2NUs?si=BX3MJxOJmNyWlCWt&t=272 As you say ,nothing like a tender when used in an emergency . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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