footzz Posted November 2, 2023 #551 Share Posted November 2, 2023 After reading through this thread, I'm starting to re-evaluate the definition of a 'shakedown cruise'. 2 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonsai3s Posted November 2, 2023 #552 Share Posted November 2, 2023 Went to GS before dinner tonight (Symphony) and asked for a copy of the current tip breakdown. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not-enough-cruising Posted November 2, 2023 #553 Share Posted November 2, 2023 13 minutes ago, bonsai3s said: Went to GS before dinner tonight (Symphony) and asked for a copy of the current tip breakdown. “Other hotel services”?? No one I have any desire to tip. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted November 3, 2023 #554 Share Posted November 3, 2023 24 minutes ago, bonsai3s said: Went to GS before dinner tonight (Symphony) and asked for a copy of the current tip breakdown. So when cabin service was cut by 50% the allotted amount stayed the same. Interesting. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky1987 Posted November 3, 2023 #555 Share Posted November 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Ocean Boy said: So when cabin service was cut by 50% the allotted amount stayed the same. Interesting. 1 hour ago, not-enough-cruising said: “Other hotel services”?? No one I have any desire to tip. Also wonder where the extra $.15/day for other hotel services goes for regular cabins vs. suites. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RD64 Posted November 3, 2023 #556 Share Posted November 3, 2023 5 hours ago, Engineroom Snipe said: @iscruisingdunzo Agreed. So many times you will read in many threads about how RCI has to repay the loans using increased fees and prices as a reason. The CEO says for far too long, in so many words, cruises were being priced much lower than "comparable" vacation experiences. I am "comparing" vacation experiences and cruising is starting to not be very competitive. As I said, I am just going to wait on the sidelines for the dust to settle a bit before I book any more RCI cruises. I have been loyal to Royal since 1988. Loyal to Royal - that is what RCL wants - those people that will book RCL for whatever perceived benefits they feel they will receive, despite anything to the contrary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpluvsdolphins Posted November 3, 2023 #557 Share Posted November 3, 2023 4 hours ago, Ocean Boy said: So when cabin service was cut by 50% the allotted amount stayed the same. Interesting. False. Cabin stewards were making $3.55 pppd. After the one time a day service started, they make $3.05 pppd They have more cabins. less staff for Royal to pay, feed and house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verycritic Posted November 3, 2023 #558 Share Posted November 3, 2023 7 hours ago, bonsai3s said: Went to GS before dinner tonight (Symphony) and asked for a copy of the current tip breakdown. Fake slip to make you go away - every ship has a different break down! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonsai3s Posted November 3, 2023 #559 Share Posted November 3, 2023 26 minutes ago, verycritic said: Fake slip to make you go away - every ship has a different break down! Please show us another tip breakdown from another ship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyank Posted November 3, 2023 #560 Share Posted November 3, 2023 31 minutes ago, verycritic said: Fake slip to make you go away - every ship has a different break down! nope 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted November 3, 2023 #561 Share Posted November 3, 2023 4 hours ago, scorpluvsdolphins said: False. Cabin stewards were making $3.55 pppd. After the one time a day service started, they make $3.05 pppd They have more cabins. less staff for Royal to pay, feed and house. Maybe RCI could start selling those empty crew cabins ... category EC... economy class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted November 3, 2023 #562 Share Posted November 3, 2023 2 hours ago, verycritic said: Fake slip to make you go away - every ship has a different break down! You can back up this claim of yours with some hard evidence? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Engineroom Snipe Posted November 3, 2023 #563 Share Posted November 3, 2023 Always amazing when long time posters try to present factual evidence only to be refuted by newly minted posters, without any type of references or evidence to back up their claim(s). The old "I am right, you are wrong, I do not have to prove anything because I know I am right and you are wrong." It is not a discussion, it is pontification at that point. @bonsai3s I have no reason to doubt that you did obtain the slip from an RCI ship from Guest Services. I have personally seen them being given out at GS to other guest while waiting in line concerning other matters. You shared with us what you received which is relevant to this discussion about "why the increase and where does it go?" 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelblu Posted November 3, 2023 #564 Share Posted November 3, 2023 3 hours ago, verycritic said: Fake slip to make you go away - every ship has a different break down! WOW, your first post and you doubt what is being presented. Welcome to CC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjlaac Posted November 3, 2023 #565 Share Posted November 3, 2023 11 hours ago, bonsai3s said: Went to GS before dinner tonight (Symphony) and asked for a copy of the current tip breakdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjlaac Posted November 3, 2023 #566 Share Posted November 3, 2023 (edited) I don't doubt if the list is authentic, but does it really tell you anything more than you already know? Stewards and waitors were always getting a piece but over 40% is listed as other. When other is the biggest category it definately looks like they are trying to hide something and whether its people you wouldn't normally tip or a cash grab by RCCL it makes no difference, its not money I'm willing to continue paying. Edited November 3, 2023 by bjlaac 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelblu Posted November 3, 2023 #567 Share Posted November 3, 2023 14 hours ago, Engineroom Snipe said: I had to provide for my family during the pandemic. I am not going to pay what I think are additional fees for new cruises just to "help RCI survive." I am just standing on the sidelines for awhile to watch things unfold. I feel for you. I'm sure other cruise lines will welcome you with open arms. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Engineroom Snipe Posted November 3, 2023 #568 Share Posted November 3, 2023 18 minutes ago, bjlaac said: I don't doubt if the list is authentic, but does it really tell you anything more than you already know? Stewards and waitors were always getting a piece but over 40% is listed as other. When other is the biggest category it definately looks like they are trying to hide something and whether its people you wouldn't normally tip or a cash grab by RCCL it makes no difference, its not money I'm willing to continue paying. You raise a pertinent question: "Who in the 'other' gets that money?" It represents quite a large percentage of the charges. Similar to New Jersey State when they say a new tax or fee is "going into the general coffers." The General Coffers is a euphemistic black hole that lacks any specific reason except for the politicians to go to it for their pet projects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare A&L_Ont Posted November 3, 2023 #569 Share Posted November 3, 2023 53 minutes ago, nelblu said: WOW, your first post and you doubt what is being presented. Welcome to CC. I guess they came out of the starters gate in full speed.🙂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vswan Posted November 3, 2023 #570 Share Posted November 3, 2023 Other hotel services could include off-ship staff that works in the "hotel services" section of corporate. We have no idea who actually gets 40% of the funds. To my knowledge - which may be lacking - there is nothing that says that all of the service charges collected go to the actual staff on the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonsai3s Posted November 3, 2023 #571 Share Posted November 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Engineroom Snipe said: Always amazing when long time posters try to present factual evidence only to be refuted by newly minted posters, without any type of references or evidence to back up their claim(s). The old "I am right, you are wrong, I do not have to prove anything because I know I am right and you are wrong." It is not a discussion, it is pontification at that point. @bonsai3s I have no reason to doubt that you did obtain the slip from an RCI ship from Guest Services. I have personally seen them being given out at GS to other guest while waiting in line concerning other matters. You shared with us what you received which is relevant to this discussion about "why the increase and where does it go?" Yes, I was simply trying to help...thanks. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jean87510 Posted November 3, 2023 #572 Share Posted November 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Engineroom Snipe said: You raise a pertinent question: "Who in the 'other' gets that money?" It represents quite a large percentage of the charges. Similar to New Jersey State when they say a new tax or fee is "going into the general coffers." The General Coffers is a euphemistic black hole that lacks any specific reason except for the politicians to go to it for their pet projects. or to pay for Taylor Swift concert tickets 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bretts173 Posted November 3, 2023 #573 Share Posted November 3, 2023 55 minutes ago, vswan said: Other hotel services could include off-ship staff that works in the "hotel services" section of corporate. We have no idea who actually gets 40% of the funds. To my knowledge - which may be lacking - there is nothing that says that all of the service charges collected go to the actual staff on the ship. Really? Hotel is a large part of the ships operations. Laundry, galley, cleaning to name a few that you dont have direct interaction with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandamonia Posted November 3, 2023 #574 Share Posted November 3, 2023 I got told even the captain gets part now. 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK79 Posted November 3, 2023 #575 Share Posted November 3, 2023 The Grats for a family of 5, the price of the 7 cruise, a drink package, 1 specialty dining, airfare, hotel the night before the cruise, 2 excursions. Should have gone to Hawaii for 2 weeks. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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