Rare mom says Posted April 11 #26 Share Posted April 11 (edited) On 4/10/2024 at 11:59 AM, DarrenM said: is it possible to be on a Disney ship without kids? Yes, they will sell cabins to child free passengers. There actually are grown ups who are fans of all things Disney. And there are adults only areas of the ship in the evening. But you have to accept the presence of other people's rug rats for most of the day. Schedule a dental check up on your return home- the overwhelming level of sugary sweetness in all the character and staff interactions is something else. We did one Disney cruise as a couple (after a WDW vacation). It was fine, but it was one and done for us. Edited April 11 by mom says Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capecruzer Posted April 25 #27 Share Posted April 25 Its hard to remember all the details for each cruise but I know I was impressed by Celebrity Summit and Disney Wonder. For those asking about the Disney ships, the restaurants on the Wonder remain the best of any cruise I've been on....both entertainment wise and food wise. The Ships are super $$$ so I tell anyone who asks that the Disney ships are a "must -do - ONCE". I'll likely do it again for grandkids but I've saved a small fortune taking my own kids on all the other lines (Carnival, RCCL, and NCL) instead and reserve Celebrity for my adult-only trips. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Posted Monday at 08:29 AM #28 Share Posted Monday at 08:29 AM No Mass Market for me. If I wanted to spend a week at Walmart, there are easier ways to do that. The new Ritz-Carlton ship is very special. 300 guests; 300 crew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjde Posted Monday at 01:00 PM Author #29 Share Posted Monday at 01:00 PM Unfortunately, I’d get so sick on those smaller ships! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
57redbird Posted Monday at 07:53 PM #30 Share Posted Monday at 07:53 PM We cruise for itinerary over ship but I really liked the K & we're on her again in December. The only HAL ship I really don't like is the Eurodam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donaldsc Posted Tuesday at 01:54 AM #31 Share Posted Tuesday at 01:54 AM Many of them but none of the ones from the lines that the OP has mentioned. I like small ships.w less than 1000 passengers. All of the ships from those lines ar overly large tubs or are floating amusement parks in my opinion. DON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SelectSys Posted Tuesday at 02:49 AM #32 Share Posted Tuesday at 02:49 AM On 4/25/2024 at 2:45 PM, capecruzer said: I was impressed by Celebrity Summit and Disney Wonder My first cruise was on the Disney Magic a bit more than 20 years ago. I remember being really impressed. Was it the ship or was it because it was my first cruise? Probably a bit of both leaning more towards the fact that everything was new to me. On 4/25/2024 at 2:45 PM, capecruzer said: both entertainment wise and food wise I can't remember the food all that well - other than my kids are Mickey Bars for desert every day - but I do remember the shows and think they remain the best I have seen on a cruise ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare CDNPolar Posted Tuesday at 09:44 AM #33 Share Posted Tuesday at 09:44 AM We like the 1000 or less people ships. We are very impressed with Viking ships for a few reasons. 1) What we feel is understated decor that is luxury in design. 2) Always a space on the ship to settle in - never seem to fight for a place to be. 3) Exceptional crew, service, and food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjde Posted Tuesday at 02:51 PM Author #34 Share Posted Tuesday at 02:51 PM I don’t love crowds but after 10 nts on a 700 passenger ship I felt a bit confined and like there were a lack of ( new) dining options and things to do. And I am one who can usually easily entertain myself with a book . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldubs Posted Tuesday at 05:21 PM #35 Share Posted Tuesday at 05:21 PM 15 hours ago, donaldsc said: Many of them but none of the ones from the lines that the OP has mentioned. I like small ships.w less than 1000 passengers. All of the ships from those lines ar overly large tubs or are floating amusement parks in my opinion. DON Interesting that you and a handful of others need to continuously compare larger ships to Walmart and amusement parks. Some do in fact have amusement park vibes, many do not. None that I have experienced in somewhere around 50 cruises resemble a Walmart. But then, I don't really know what meant by those of you who comment about floating Walmarts. Bottom line, and a good dose of tit for tat, I suppose I might prefer the vibe on larger ships over a floating convalescent home. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Posted Tuesday at 10:10 PM #36 Share Posted Tuesday at 10:10 PM 4 hours ago, ldubs said: Interesting that you and a handful of others need to continuously compare larger ships to Walmart and amusement parks. Some do in fact have amusement park vibes, many do not. None that I have experienced in somewhere around 50 cruises resemble a Walmart. But then, I don't really know what meant by those of you who comment about floating Walmarts. Bottom line, and a good dose of tit for tat, I suppose I might prefer the vibe on larger ships over a floating convalescent home. Go to www.peopleofwalmart.com to get a better idea of the comparisons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted yesterday at 01:21 AM #37 Share Posted yesterday at 01:21 AM 7 hours ago, ldubs said: Interesting that you and a handful of others need to continuously compare larger ships to Walmart and amusement parks. Some do in fact have amusement park vibes, many do not. None that I have experienced in somewhere around 50 cruises resemble a Walmart. But then, I don't really know what meant by those of you who comment about floating Walmarts. Bottom line, and a good dose of tit for tat, I suppose I might prefer the vibe on larger ships over a floating convalescent home. A few fans of the large mass-market ships have protested the Walmart comparison. It may not be complimentary , but comparing a usually crowded discount mass market cruise ship with a usually crowded mass market retail operation is not altogether inappropriate. Doing so does not mean one might not ever take advantage of the opportunities offered by the discount mass market provider — it is simply a matter of being aware of the differences between discount mass-market providers and more upscale providers (be they providers of shopping opportunities or cruise experiences); that awareness, of course, requires having experienced both approaches. Having sailed both types of ships, I have never seen a particular convalescent home vibe on a smaller vessel- and, in fact, seem to recall a higher proportion of infirm passengers on larger ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjde Posted yesterday at 01:53 AM Author #38 Share Posted yesterday at 01:53 AM “seem to recall a higher proportion of infirm passengers on larger ships.” Well that is certainly true when talking about river cruises. Some don’t even have elevators ( though there aren’t many flights). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldubs Posted yesterday at 02:16 AM #39 Share Posted yesterday at 02:16 AM 4 hours ago, Donald said: Go to www.peopleofwalmart.com to get a better idea of the comparisons. It is kind of sad you would even attempt to make that comparison. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldubs Posted yesterday at 03:01 AM #40 Share Posted yesterday at 03:01 AM 55 minutes ago, navybankerteacher said: A few fans of the large mass-market ships have protested the Walmart comparison. It may not be complimentary , but comparing a usually crowded discount mass market cruise ship with a usually crowded mass market retail operation is not altogether inappropriate. Doing so does not mean one might not ever take advantage of the opportunities offered by the discount mass market provider — it is simply a matter of being aware of the differences between discount mass-market providers and more upscale providers (be they providers of shopping opportunities or cruise experiences); that awareness, of course, requires having experienced both approaches. Having sailed both types of ships, I have never seen a particular convalescent home vibe on a smaller vessel- and, in fact, seem to recall a higher proportion of infirm passengers on larger ships. I can assure you more than a "few fans of mass market lines" find this comparison immature and inaccurate. At least be honest. It is intentionally uncomplimentary. Just like my previous convalescent home reference -- very intentional. Saying it is "not altogether inappropriate" is a silly attempt to sidestep the real message. Stop pretending you are unaware of the stigma attached to Walmart and Walmart shoppers. Your sidekick who posted the website sure doesn't pretend. Every time I read this nonsense, I'm more convinced than ever to stick with mass market lines and the terrific fellow passengers I'm surrounded by. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjde Posted yesterday at 03:03 AM Author #41 Share Posted yesterday at 03:03 AM This topic has gotten derailed. I think you should start a new post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldubs Posted yesterday at 03:05 AM #42 Share Posted yesterday at 03:05 AM Just now, sjde said: This topic has gotten derailed. I think you should start a new post! Yes, you are correct. Many apologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare CDNPolar Posted 21 hours ago #43 Share Posted 21 hours ago (edited) With the intent of bringing this back on track.... All Viking Ocean ships are identical with the exception that some now have Planetariums on the upper deck of the Explorer Lounge. We love the vibe of Viking from the decor to the crew, service, and the food. This is true of Jupiter, Star, and Orion which we have already sailed and we will be sailing on Sea, Venus and Neptune soon. Edited 21 hours ago by CDNPolar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjde Posted 19 hours ago Author #44 Share Posted 19 hours ago Viking was not my favorite river cruise lines so I am hesitant to take one of their ocean cruises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted 19 hours ago #45 Share Posted 19 hours ago 8 hours ago, ldubs said: I can assure you more than a "few fans of mass market lines" find this comparison immature and inaccurate. At least be honest. It is intentionally uncomplimentary. Just like my previous convalescent home reference -- very intentional. Saying it is "not altogether inappropriate" is a silly attempt to sidestep the real message. Stop pretending you are unaware of the stigma attached to Walmart and Walmart shoppers. Your sidekick who posted the website sure doesn't pretend. Every time I read this nonsense, I'm more convinced than ever to stick with mass market lines and the terrific fellow passengers I'm surrounded by. I take it that you feel there is something inherently bad about large scale mass market operations. Frankly, I do not - I frequent both sorts of enterprises - in cruising and retail expeditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ontheweb Posted 16 hours ago #46 Share Posted 16 hours ago 2 hours ago, navybankerteacher said: I take it that you feel there is something inherently bad about large scale mass market operations. Frankly, I do not - I frequent both sorts of enterprises - in cruising and retail expeditions. There are definitely people including some who post on these boards who use the term Wa;mart in a pejorative sense. Now if there are 3 stores in town that all sell avocados, actually the same brand and 2 of them charge over a dollar each while Walmart sells them for 74 cents each, I wonder what could possibly be wrong with buying them at Walmart that would merit that criticism. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldubs Posted 16 hours ago #47 Share Posted 16 hours ago 2 hours ago, navybankerteacher said: I take it that you feel there is something inherently bad about large scale mass market operations. Now you are just making things up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted 14 hours ago #48 Share Posted 14 hours ago 2 hours ago, ldubs said: Now you are just making things up. No- I am just questioning your opposition to the use of a perfectly appropriate and applicable term for a low price, mass market provider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted 13 hours ago #49 Share Posted 13 hours ago 2 hours ago, ontheweb said: There are definitely people including some who post on these boards who use the term Wa;mart in a pejorative sense. Now if there are 3 stores in town that all sell avocados, actually the same brand and 2 of them charge over a dollar each while Walmart sells them for 74 cents each, I wonder what could possibly be wrong with buying them at Walmart that would merit that criticism. Of course I would buy the avocados at Walmart - just as I sometimes sail Royal Caribbean, Celebrity, Princess, Cunard and (not as frequently) Carnival. I am aware that many of the goods carried by Walmart are identical (same brand and quality) as at higher priced stores, and I do make purchases there. I do not buy clothing, shoes, or furniture at Walmart because I don’t appreciate the quality of those items . I suggest you get over the knee-jerk reaction to “Walmart” as pejorative - I simply use it as an appropriate term for identifying a low-cost, mass market provider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ontheweb Posted 13 hours ago #50 Share Posted 13 hours ago 8 minutes ago, navybankerteacher said: Of course I would buy the avocados at Walmart - just as I sometimes sail Royal Caribbean, Celebrity, Princess, Cunard and (not as frequently) Carnival. I am aware that many of the goods carried by Walmart are identical (same brand and quality) as at higher priced stores, and I do make purchases there. I do not buy clothing, shoes, or furniture at Walmart because I don’t appreciate the quality of those items . I suggest you get over the knee-jerk reaction to “Walmart” as pejorative - I simply use it as an appropriate term for identifying a low-cost, mass market provider. But there are others who definitely use it as pejorative term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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