Paul123 Posted September 11, 2008 #276 Share Posted September 11, 2008 Yes, but don't forget not all of us in Northern Ireland are British. :) We have the right to be Irish, British or both. I would never refer to someone in the north as British unless I knew them as I could cause offense. I might refer to them Northern Irish. ". I thought it was probably worth expanding the above for those (and I doubt if there are many of you that interested!!) that would like a further explanation of this interesting and somewhat unique citizenship phenomena. People from Northern Ireland are British citizens on the same basis as people from any other part of the United Kingdom. The 1998 Belfast Agreement between the British and Irish governments provides that: it is the birthright of all the people of Northern Ireland to identify themselves and be accepted as Irish or British, or both, as they may so choose, and accordingly [the two governments] confirm that their right to hold both British and Irish citizenship is accepted by both Governments and would not be affected by any future change in the status of Northern Ireland. As a result of the Agreement, the Constitution of Ireland was amended so that people born in Northern Ireland are entitled to be Irish citizens on the same basis as people from any other part of the island of Ireland. Neither government, however, extends its citizenship to all persons born in Northern Ireland. Both governments exclude some people born in Northern Ireland (e.g. certain persons born in Northern Ireland neither of whose parents is a UK or Irish national). In general, Protestants in Northern Ireland see themselves primarily as being British, while Roman Catholics regard themselves primarily as being Irish. Several studies and surveys performed between 1971 and 2006 show this. This does not however, account for the complex identities within Northern Ireland, given that many of the population regard themselves as "Ulster" or "Northern Irish", either primarily, or as a secondary identity. A 1999 survey showed that 51% of Protestants felt "Not at all Irish" and 41% only "weakly Irish" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplelife Posted September 11, 2008 #277 Share Posted September 11, 2008 Not to cause a stir here, and not that I have any problem with "You're Welcome," but "No Problem" is well accepted in Spanish, right? The typical response to "Gracias" is "Denada", which I believe literally translates to "It is nothing," or in other words "No problem." How about a response of "My pleasure," to "Thank You"? That seems perfectly reasonable to me as well. This is common in French too - de rien (It is nothing) or je t'en prie (my pleasure) or even pas de quoi (don't mention it). In whatever language and usng whatever phrasing, what matters is that we are responding with courtesy. When you think about it, many of our courtesy phrases are figurative terms - "How do you do? " makes little sense (How do you do what?) but is still considered the most approprate social greeting in more formal settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplelife Posted September 11, 2008 #278 Share Posted September 11, 2008 Another niggler for me is when a waiter/waitress in a casual restaurant comes to our table and says, How are you guys? There is a man and a woman seated at the table and she gets the cold stare from me. Guys??? :( We don't have that problem here in the south - it's always "y'all". :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usha Posted September 11, 2008 #279 Share Posted September 11, 2008 On our next cruise, I hope we don't get "niggled & dimed" to death.;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtl513 Posted September 11, 2008 #280 Share Posted September 11, 2008 We don't have that problem here in the south - it's always "y'all". :) As in "Kin ah hep y'all?" :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babyher Posted September 11, 2008 #281 Share Posted September 11, 2008 As in "Kin ah hep y'all?" :) :) one of our neighbors is from down south and when we bump into eachother and chat , when we finish she will say "Be sure and tell your wife I said HEY" :) Another expression I think is funny and have actually used is after making a comment she will add "I'm just sayin is all" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babyher Posted September 11, 2008 #282 Share Posted September 11, 2008 Also when a waitress takes your money and asks "Do You Need Any Change?" that really bugs me. See that I can understand . Most times the check arrives in one of those "pleather" folders. And when you hand it back to them with your money they don't know how much is in there . On occasion I only have big bills with me , so I would hope she would ask if I want change and not assume I am gving her a $70 tip for a $30 check :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowPrincess Posted September 11, 2008 #283 Share Posted September 11, 2008 they don't know how much is in there And they open the folder to take the cash out. That tells them whether or not you need change. IMHO, unless a diner says "That's fine, no change needed" BEFORE the server asks, the server should return the change. Then the diner can leave a tip. To ask "Do you need change?" is IMHO angling for a tip. I'm jus sayin, is all. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estebofarr Posted September 11, 2008 #284 Share Posted September 11, 2008 That drives me crazy!!! I went to lunch with my father and the bill was maybe $15 and all he had was $100 bill. (I know:)) and they said do you want change? I thought he was going to jump over the table and strangle her. That really bugs me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhannah Posted September 11, 2008 #285 Share Posted September 11, 2008 Yesterday I went to an establishment. During my less than 3 minutes of interaction with a female employee she called me "hon" about 4 times. I'm not her hon! (Short for honey.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
world~citizen Posted September 11, 2008 #286 Share Posted September 11, 2008 Yesterday I went to an establishment. During my less than 3 minutes of interaction with a female employee she called me "hon" about 4 times. I'm not her hon! (Short for honey.) I would have thought you we be used to it by now.:eek::D Smooth sailing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronandannette Posted September 11, 2008 #287 Share Posted September 11, 2008 We don't have that problem here in the south - it's always "y'all". :) Not an annoyance exactly, but I can't help laughing every time. This phrase just sounds SO absurd to my Canadian ears! "How're all y'all?"...I want to respond "Fine thanks, how are all of you??":D Happy Sails, Annette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruz chic Posted September 11, 2008 #288 Share Posted September 11, 2008 And they open the folder to take the cash out. That tells them whether or not you need change. IMHO, unless a diner says "That's fine, no change needed" BEFORE the server asks, the server should return the change. Then the diner can leave a tip. To ask "Do you need change?" is IMHO angling for a tip. I'm jus sayin, is all. :D I agree....it's totally asking for a tip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roboat Posted September 11, 2008 #289 Share Posted September 11, 2008 I agree....it's totally asking for a tip. I agree, and will usually decrease the tip. (Alas, so many people to train. I just don't see how I can get to them all.) ;) Now my PP is when a waiter wants to remove your plate and asks, "Are you still working on that?," as though I were a jackal tugging at a buffalo carcass. I usually snarl and nip them on the arm. Hey, jhannah, maybe she was calling you a Hun. Did you have that weird hat on again? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estebofarr Posted September 11, 2008 #290 Share Posted September 11, 2008 Roboat that is funny, you made me laugh out loud, (I needed it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowPrincess Posted September 11, 2008 #291 Share Posted September 11, 2008 Roboat, thanks for the laugh-out-loud moment :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babyher Posted September 11, 2008 #292 Share Posted September 11, 2008 Just paid two bills over the phone first off ..........."Press 1 for English" Secondly........there is never a number to press for the department or situation I need to deal with , so they reapeat the whole menu 2 or 3 more times before they finally put a human being on the phone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuthC Posted September 11, 2008 #293 Share Posted September 11, 2008 Secondly........there is never a number to press for the department or situation I need to deal with , so they reapeat the whole menu 2 or 3 more times before they finally put a human being on the phone You got a real, live person??? :eek: Wow. Which leads directly to "Your call is important to us. Please hold." (and hold, and hold, and hold, and ....):rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipedreams62 Posted September 11, 2008 #294 Share Posted September 11, 2008 Just paid two bills over the phone first off ..........."Press 1 for English" Secondly........there is never a number to press for the department or situation I need to deal with , so they reapeat the whole menu 2 or 3 more times before they finally put a human being on the phone "Please bear with Me,My Computer Is Running Real Slow Today" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarasMommy Posted September 12, 2008 #295 Share Posted September 12, 2008 I don't got no problems with any of youse (or you's) guys. I hope your having a good time with this thread, or maybe there is other thing's to talk about. Anyways, I will move on. ;) Often, when I tell people that my father was born in Denmark, they ask me if I speak Dutch. :mad: Let's hope that HAL doesn't come out with a ship named the Heindam... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted September 12, 2008 #296 Share Posted September 12, 2008 I don't got no problems with any of youse (or you's) guys. I hope your having a good time with this thread, or maybe there is other thing's to talk about. Anyways, I will move on. ;) Often, when I tell people that my father was born in Denmark, they ask me if I speak Dutch. :mad: Let's hope that HAL doesn't come out with a ship named the Heindam... Heinekendam;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplelife Posted September 12, 2008 #297 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Not an annoyance exactly, but I can't help laughing every time. This phrase just sounds SO absurd to my Canadian ears! "How're all y'all?"...I want to respond "Fine thanks, how are all of you??":D Happy Sails, Annette "Y'all" means a small or exclusive group (two or more); "All Y'all" means a large or inclusive group. Y'all is never used to mean just one person, except by people who are trying to fake southern dialect.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplelife Posted September 12, 2008 #298 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Hey y'all. Oh, that's all y'all, aint it? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarasMommy Posted September 12, 2008 #299 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Heinekendam;) I think I sailed on that ship in college! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desdemona01 Posted September 12, 2008 #300 Share Posted September 12, 2008 I wasn't going to add to this but my biggest pet peeve here just popped up--when someone answers an OP's question and it's correct, why do people pile on and reply with the same answer? And it's not because they're happening at the same time. I find it insulting and redundant:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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