What happens to people kicked off the boat for crimes?

[HesterMofet]

I guess on our recent Freedom cruise (review to come!) there were several people taken off the boat for offenses such as fighting, disabling the smoke detectors and/or domestic violence.

 

What happens to those people? Are they arrested by the local police, processed and told to get the heck out of the country on the first flight available? Are they prosecuted there? I can't imagine in the case of assault they would consider it punishment enough to just kick them off!

 

I also heard from the staff on the All Access Tour that the cruise lines are now sharing their blacklists of passengers and now doing background sex offender registry checks on passengers, not just crew.

[Zigggypup]

Maybe they are secretly forced to walk the plank and never heard from or seen again?

 

If they are kicked off the ship for a policy violation, then they are own their own. If they have committed a crime, and RCI wants to press charges then they would be arrested and charged. But every situation is different, so their is not one answer to this question.

Edited October 29, 2013 by Zigggypup

[rushedmom]

I guess on our recent Freedom cruise (review to come!) there were several people taken off the boat for offenses such as fighting, disabling the smoke detectors and/or domestic violence.

 

What happens to those people? Are they arrested by the local police, processed and told to get the heck out of the country on the first flight available? Are they prosecuted there? I can't imagine in the case of assault they would consider it punishment enough to just kick them off!

 

I also heard from the staff on the All Access Tour that the cruise lines are now sharing their blacklists of passengers and now doing background sex offender registry checks on passengers, not just crew.

 

 

Saw a security guard posted outside a stateroom door last week we asked him if someone was getting off at the next stop, he just grinned and nodded yes..

[chengkp75]

I guess on our recent Freedom cruise (review to come!) there were several people taken off the boat for offenses such as fighting, disabling the smoke detectors and/or domestic violence.

 

What happens to those people? Are they arrested by the local police, processed and told to get the heck out of the country on the first flight available? Are they prosecuted there? I can't imagine in the case of assault they would consider it punishment enough to just kick them off!

 

I also heard from the staff on the All Access Tour that the cruise lines are now sharing their blacklists of passengers and now doing background sex offender registry checks on passengers, not just crew.

 

It all depends on what is involved, and where. For damages against the ship, RCI would have to press charges, and that would not make much economic or PR sense. For assault on a crewmember or other passenger, that person would have to be willing to press charges. Also, whether the ship was in a country's waters would determine whether or not local law enforcement would apply.

[Ocean Boy]

It all depends on what is involved, and where. For damages against the ship, RCI would have to press charges, and that would not make much economic or PR sense. For assault on a crewmember or other passenger, that person would have to be willing to press charges. Also, whether the ship was in a country's waters would determine whether or not local law enforcement would apply.

 

Why do you say that? If RCI was going after people who damage the ship I would not find that offensive from a PR viewpoint at all. I find people who are intentionally causing damage to property to be offensive.

[chengkp75]

Why do you say that? If RCI was going after people who damage the ship I would not find that offensive from a PR viewpoint at all. I find people who are intentionally causing damage to property to be offensive.

 

Because all that would be on the news would be that RCI was charging a passenger, not the fact that the person damaged the ship. We had a guy who got totally drunk and decided it would be fun to slide down the bannister of the curved stairs in the atrium. He managed to break the handrail, and impale his thigh on one of the handrail supports. He sued the company, and the company decided it was cheaper and better PR to settle.

[Trekker954]

All passengers names are run through law enforcement databases and CBP and/or local law enforcement will be there when the ship docs to take off any felons, including outstanding sex offenders (as the OP mentioned).

 

As far as passengers being booted off the ship for bad behavior, during the captains Q&A just two weeks ago, we were told that the cruise line does in fact kick off passengers, but do assist them with flying them back to the disembarking port of entry and they are banned from sailing with that line again. I too had always thought they were on their own dime in that case. but not true.

[wwcruisers]

My best (uneducated) guess would be: it depends on what the offending party did.

Was it simply "disruptive" behavior (flaunting the ship's rules), or did it rise to the level of a crime?

If the behavior role to the level of "criminal", what type of crime was it? A property crime against the ship, or possession/use of an illegal substance -- or was it a crime of violence?

In the instance of a violent crime, was the victim a passenger, or crew member? Is it a crime that the local authorities in the next port would have jurisdiction over, or would the FBI have authority to investigate, when the ship returned to homeport?

I think that all sorts of scenarios could play out ... just like when stuff happens on land.

Edited October 29, 2013 by wwcruisers

[Ashland]

Because all that would be on the news would be that RCI was charging a passenger, not the fact that the person damaged the ship. We had a guy who got totally drunk and decided it would be fun to slide down the bannister of the curved stairs in the atrium. He managed to break the handrail, and impale his thigh on one of the handrail supports. He sued the company, and the company decided it was cheaper and better PR to settle.

This...is bad PR as far as I'm concerned..settling a matter like this just opens the door.

[dschultz56]

I guess on our recent Freedom cruise (review to come!) there were several people taken off the boat for offenses such as fighting, disabling the smoke detectors and/or domestic violence.

 

What happens to those people? Are they arrested by the local police, processed and told to get the heck out of the country on the first flight available? Are they prosecuted there? I can't imagine in the case of assault they would consider it punishment enough to just kick them off!

 

I also heard from the staff on the All Access Tour that the cruise lines are now sharing their blacklists of passengers and now doing background sex offender registry checks on passengers, not just crew.

We were on this cruise, too. Several of those people were on our deck in 1 or 2 cabins. Something happened at CoCo Cay because security was posted outside of their cabin from Monday night until we docked in St. Thomas on Wednesday. I was on the All Access Tour and asked the security guy about it. He said this was a bad cruise from a security prospective and several people had been taken off the ship in St Thomas and St Marteen. No problems for 3 weeks and then they had a lot on this cruise.

[Lionesss]

There must be a "code of silence" when it comes to cruise workers talking about "issues" involving other passengers.

On our past Allure sailing, something happened two cabins over from us..security and ships officers were in the suite for awhile. All of us tried to get out what happened, but to no avail.

Wow thought someone would talk.

Sea Ya

[time4u2go]

All passengers names are run through law enforcement databases and CBP and/or local law enforcement will be there when the ship docs to take off any felons, including outstanding sex offenders (as the OP mentioned).

 

 

Interesting. Why would they let these people on the ship in the first place? If all this is known, why not nab them as they are getting onto the ship? Why run the risk of letting them be on the cruise?

Edited October 30, 2013 by time4u2go

[baggal]

There must be a "code of silence" when it comes to cruise workers talking about "issues" involving other passengers.

 

On our past Allure sailing, something happened two cabins over from us..security and ships officers were in the suite for awhile. All of us tried to get out what happened, but to no avail.

 

Wow thought someone would talk.

 

Sea Ya

 

Two reasons: innocent until proven guilty, and, potential for litigation against the cruise line by the accused. And of course, its no one else's business unless you have been victimized in some way.

[JMG]

We were on HAL and 3 passengers were extremely rude to everyone. Other passengers as well as crew. We stopped in Jamaica and there were plenty of announcements regarding things that you should not buy in Jamaica...drugs. These folks apparently decided to disregard that ruling.

Our next stop was Grand Cayman. A dog was brought onboard and the 3 were given "complimentary jewelry" and escorted off the ship. Everyone was all smiles that night as they talked about that all expenses paid vacation that those 3 were getting compliments of the Cayman government.

Obviously, the Captain authorized a call ahead to the Cayman authorities. Suspecting or knowing that these 3 were bringing an illegal substance into the Caymans had to be reported.

[RubyDog08]

...What happens to those people? ....

 

 

One thing's for sure: They'll be enjoying a new mode of transportation to their final destination, wherever that might be. :eek:

[Tagsalong]

The Monarch escorted two pax off the ship at Coco Cay (day 2 of a 4 dayer) in March for tampering with smoke detectors. They were on their own to get a boat to the nearest island with an airport and then the flight to Orlando.

 

When doing a B2B on Enchantment, we were delayed one-half hour on our turn around trip through customs because ship security was waiting for the Sheriff to arrive at the Port-of-Canaveral. A family of five was then escorted off the ship to a special room because they had been discovered with "an item from the ship which did not belong to them." We were not told what the item was.

[PattyG12]

The Monarch escorted two pax off the ship at Coco Cay (day 2 of a 4 dayer) in March for tampering with smoke detectors.

 

I thought Cococay was considered part of the ship? How can they do that with no airport or public transportation?

[pjlee3333]

I thought Cococay was considered part of the ship? How can they do that with no airport or public transportation?

 

I'm assuming ferry or something similar. We had a couple miss the ship in Nassau that caught up with the ship in Cococay.

 

We've also had people taken off the ship and sent home from Labadee. When asked about it later all the captain would say was that it was deserved. This cruise also had people that were taken off in San Juan.

[Ocean Boy]

I'm assuming ferry or something similar. We had a couple miss the ship in Nassau that caught up with the ship in Cococay.

 

We've also had people taken off the ship and sent home from Labadee. When asked about it later all the captain would say was that it was deserved. This cruise also had people that were taken off in San Juan.

 

There is no ferry from Coco Cay to anywhere. I could maybe understand Labadee as it is on Haiti but stranding someone on Occo Cay sounds like it could present quite a liability issue.

[PattyG12]

That's what I thought too. I also can understand Haiti and honestly I've seen people put off in San Juan. I just can't imagine them leaving people in Cococay

[trev71]

it never ceases to amaze me on how some people act when they are on cruises. It would be great if everyone would act normal and just enjoyed their week on a cruise. But some people drama seems to follow them everywhere you go.. Oddly my last cruise I remember seeing a guard outside a door, Next time I will know they were being bad

Edited October 30, 2013 by trev71

[bigque]

Saw a security guard posted outside a stateroom door last week we asked him if someone was getting off at the next stop, he just grinned and nodded yes..

 

What date of your cruise were you on? I had posted in my review about two young ladies being escorted by security to the ship in Falmouth whom I had seen on the ship a few times and after that stop I never did see them anymore the rest of the cruise. I was on Ocotber 13-20.

Edited October 30, 2013 by bigque

[bouhunter]

As far as passengers being booted off the ship for bad behavior, during the captains Q&A just two weeks ago, we were told that the cruise line does in fact kick off passengers, but do assist them with flying them back to the disembarking port of entry and they are banned from sailing with that line again. I too had always thought they were on their own dime in that case. but not true.

 

Are you sure they meant that they would help PAY to get back to the original port? I could see them helping make arrangements, but would be surprised to hear RCCL was paying for it.

[gadaboutgal]

The Monarch escorted two pax off the ship at Coco Cay (day 2 of a 4 dayer) in March for tampering with smoke detectors. They were on their own to get a boat to the nearest island with an airport and then the flight to Orlando.

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Yes, they do kick people off in Coco Cay! Royal assists them by securing a boat that transfers them to the Bahamas, and from there the passengers go on to the U.S. No, Royal does not pay--and yes, it costs big bucks.

[senrab]

There is no ferry from Coco Cay to anywhere. I could maybe understand Labadee as it is on Haiti but stranding someone on Occo Cay sounds like it could present quite a liability issue.

 

Interesting. I know some of the CocoCay staff are ship crew, but some, especially the craft vendors and perhaps others, surely aren't... How do they get to and from the island for ship days?

 

Surely someone has to "turn on the lights" before the ship arrives...no?

Edited October 30, 2013 by senrab