Long Review: Large Medium Small: 3 ship types in one long trip

[RMLincoln]

We embarked on a 4 month odyssey to Australia, New Zealand and the South Pacific islands last September. Because we would rather cruise than take long flights we used three cruises to transport us part way around our circuit and give us the luxury of cruise pampering in between some arduous touring. Generally we are value cruisers, and in this lengthy trip we looked for good deals and as usual found some.

Our cruises were on three different cruise lines and we were carried by three different sized ships. Our first cruise was out of Los Angeles to Sydney for 21 nights on Holland America’s Volendam, a mid-size ship of about 1250 passengers. After spending about 6 weeks in Australia we boarded Celebrity Solstice, a large ship of about 3000 passengers, for a 12 night cruise to New Zealand. Our last cruise was a back-to-back out of Tahiti, first with 10 nights of visiting the Society Islands and then 11 nights from the Society Islands to Hawaii, from which we flew back to the continental US. I will try to recount the pros and cons of each experience.

Volendam: We have cruised HAL several times, we are 3-star HAL cruisers and had been on Volendam before. We find it to be a pleasant traditional cruise experience. No surprises. We were glad that HAL worked into our plans.

· We find the rooms are more accommodating than some other lines, for example our inside room had a couch in a Category K room, nice to have for a 21 day crossing. Nice plus.

· Evening entertainment was varied; we had two long sets of 4-5 sea days and the entertainers, though not inspiring, were, well, nice. For classical music, what used to be the standard quartet, then a trio, is now a duet of piano with violin. We were glad HAL maintained the classical option in some form and in a decent venue. We noticed that the ship had excellent separation of venues so no noise spillover from the casino or the piano bar for example. Weak plus.

· Our guest lecturers were high quality speakers with interesting topics; these sessions were quite well attended, so kudos to HAL for continuing with that. The Microsoft classes were usually overwhelmed with interest, teaching us “old dogs” the new tricks of surviving in the modern era. Later in the cruise it was much easier to attend and excellent for those many sea days. Again kudos to HAL and big plus.

· Library! Well few ships can compete with HAL libraries with their beautiful sea views, extra comfy chairs, recliners and music stations. Wonderful variety and an excellent librarian to help us. And the complimentary DVD library had an amazing stock, over a thousand movies, plus they will happily deliver movies to your room. How can you beat that? Big plus.

· Our MDR dining on HAL was high quality as expected but their open dining system is a bit difficult. They are good about taking reservations from 5:15 to 5:45 or after 8:15 but it’s hard to get a table at an intermediate time of say 6:30. After the first 2 nights at the same table at 5:30 we were offered it for the entire cruise, so we wound up with the equivalent of early dining but with the advantage of being able to skip that time (they would hold our table for 15 minutes or we could tell them ahead of time that we would be eating at a later time) if we anticipated being late coming back from a shore excursion for example, or just wanted something different for an evening. For us this is a better option than the rigid traditional early dining option and we enjoyed it. The dining room is roomy and the tables are spread out enough for the wait staff to serve guests with ease, though lighting could be better. Overall, I give dining a weak plus, would be stronger if they could improve their open dining and lighting. Their very liberal room service menus also helps save them. The buffet is pretty neutral.

· The internet was abysmal with multiple days of no signal for us to use with our $100 package. Poorly done and very frustrating, especially as we left a friend in grave health and needed updates. Big minus.

· Shore Excursions were the usual and as expected a bit pricey but not shocking. We purchased on board, no problems. Neutral.

The Celebrity Solstice cruise was short, only 12 days. It wasn’t what we consider a particularly good deal when we booked (3 months out); insides were sold out so we reserved a guaranteed OV, from which we were upgraded to an obstructed balcony, so it became a better deal!

· Our balcony looked across a lifeboat which was almost as high as the rail level so that part was fully obstructed, poor for picture taking but otherwise lovely for distant views and certainly no complaints for an OV price! And again our room had a couch for us to spread out, nice! Plus we had a frig which we missed on HAL; otherwise quite similar room amenities, baths, closets, robes etc. Celebrity does provide umbrellas to use which was nice but we used our own in windy, wet Wellington (ours were easier to put in our packs). But Solstice had no self-service laundry which I dearly missed with our long travel schedule. Oh well. Still a Plus for Solstice rooms.

· Entertainment on Celebrity is, well, different and varied. It was nice to have variety and the flying acrobats are amazing to watch. The Hot Glass Show is up top and outdoors; it was rather cool and windy to stand there for the entire show; seating is extremely limited but the show is captivating and so different that it stands out as a plus. I was glad we got to enjoy it. Music venues are more varied on the larger ships and we liked that part. Entertainment venues included a smaller lounge with shows and we liked the option of that variety also. The venue for the classical strings was in a horrible spot but at least they had classical strings, a music option that is getting harder to find, so a negative for venues but kudos to Celebrity for keeping classical music. Overall entertainment I think is plus on a large ship because they have the room to work in more options.

· Our lecturer was a very dynamic science speaker whom we enjoyed on our one previous Celebrity cruise and enjoyed again. The computer classes were Apple oriented and we didn’t participate. The library was ho-hum and no complimentary DVDs… so neutral on these topics for us.

· One MDR dinner on Celebrity was momentarily disappointing when I had the absolute worst prime rib ever, just unbelievably tough, but there were other options and other meals were quite good, (so maybe it was a fluke) and it did not ruin our cruise. Overall though I think the budget cuts have hit the tables. Their room service menu is lacking protein for breakfast so it was up to the buffet for us. With 3000 passengers the buffet is necessarily quite large and dispersed, but even more crowded than I remember from our previous Celebrity cruise on Constellation. The best part about dining on Celebrity is that they have open dining down to a science! One can get a reservation for any time desired…. 6:30? Of course…. a table for two, no problem! NICE! Just call a day ahead or early that morning to be assured of getting what you want. The dining room was more crowded than on the HAL ship, the tables very tight, and the servers have a harder time serving but the job gets done and the guests get what they want. Open dining definitely a plus! The rest neutral.

· Downside of the large ship: there were often lines, or if not lines then the issue was no available seating. The passengers were often in groups on this cruise and that made for more issues of loudness and reserving seats, neither of which we wanted to deal with, so time for us to move on to a different plan for the moment.

· The internet was more functional than on HAL but we paid $50 for our 12 day cruise, so not a bargain but at least it worked well, even with 3000 passengers. A plus there.

· The shore excursion we took was well done and not extraordinary on price. On and off the ship was not difficult even with 3000 passengers. I give a plus for this topic.

Our last cruise was a two cruise back to back on Ocean Princess out of Tahiti. She carries about 670 passengers, but one leg was only 570 guests, so we had a very different experience on this small ship.

· We wanted a room low and mid-ship to avoid sea sickness while crossing the Pacific in a small ship. We had a porthole room on deck 3 and happily, it too had a couch for us to spread out and enjoy during our 21 days aboard. Ocean Princess was one of the original R ships from the Renaissance line which went bankrupt in 2011, so she was not built by Princess who usually only puts a couch in mini-suites and above, so this was a big deal for a Princess ship! Big plus here!

· Entertainment was presented in a “cabaret” lounge which had terrible lines of sight. The ship’s band kept shrinking due to personnel issues and the entertainers and venue were very disappointing to us. And very few venues or options, so more entertain yourself opportunities. For us, this is a negative of being on a small ship.

· There was an excellent lecturer who specialized in the South Pacific history and culture and although his presentation style was often difficult to follow we still felt he added to our experience. Internet was free for us as Platinum Captain’s Circle members and quite reliable; the library was lovely with views of the pool area and very well stocked, very quiet but no librarian, oh well, again it’s a very small ship. These add up to plus.

· Dining on Ocean Princess is only traditional. We requested a table for two and were seated at a table for eight. We enjoyed our tablemates but for our second cruise we asked the Maître d’ for a 2-top and he met our desires. Service and food were both very good to excellent. The buffet on OP has a notably tiny serving area and comparatively limited selections, but we gladly accepted this in exchange for never a line for anything! We had no problems finding enjoyable choices and they frequently made special themed spreads. And the buffet experience was graced with lovely outdoor seating and exceptionally attentive service, all making it a big plus for us. This made the buffet area an unusually comfortable zone.

· We had some good and one terrible shore excursion. The prices were pretty high but if you got a good one, worth it. Our bad experience was very high priced and really should not have been offered this time of year because we were literally going against the current. We tried to get to the Na Pali coast of Kauai but the boat operators told us they hadn’t been able to get up there for at least 6 weeks, so they first proved to us that it wasn’t possible by driving us into the waves and soaking us with deluging waves and stinging spray before they turned around and substituted a short snorkel and a visit to a gift shop… $210 each. I was extremely disappointed in Princess and told them so but they really didn’t care to make any offer of amends. Although this isn’t a ship-size issue it did impact our experience. Many excursions were canceled apparently due to lack of numbers, and that may be a reflection of a small ship experience, so negatives for this topic.

Overall we found our choice of using cruises as transportation and relaxing pampering interludes during our long odyssey to be an excellent choice for our sanity and good value compared to land touring. I would neither avoid nor seek any of the ship-size choices we had singularly based on ship size but I would anticipate the pros and cons of each type of experience and enjoy them for what they are.

[PathfinderEss]

Great report. Would have never thought of taking all these different ships to make a round trip to and from Australia. Great idea, and sound like you had a very nice long vacation.

[erewhon]

Maureen,

I appreciate you taking time to write this report of the three cruises.

Thank you.

 

It is good to "see" you back on the boards.:)

[RMLincoln]

Maureen,

I appreciate you taking time to write this report of the three cruises.

Thank you.

 

It is good to "see" you back on the boards.:)

 

You were the inspiration for the comparison review :) so I thank YOU for that! And all your support and ideas that encouraged us along the way. m--

[erewhon]

You were the inspiration for the comparison review :) so I thank YOU for that! And all your support and ideas that encouraged us along the way. m--

 

Your e-mail arrived two minutes after I posted on this thread.:)

[POA1]

Great report, thank you! Very interesting comparative format, which is something you don't often see. Definite plus. :)

[Krazy Kruizers]

Thank you for taking the time to write your review.

Very much appreciated the comparisons of the 3 cruises and 3 ships.

[kazu]

Very interesting review.

 

Interesting to read your comparisons of the three totally different ships.

 

What a great way to avoid flying.

 

Thanks so much for taking the time to share with us.

[sunsetbeachgal]

What a variety!! Of the three we have only sailed on the Ocean Princess and also had an excellent experience, especially liked the relaxing buffet experience unlike most other larger ships. I have a cruise upcoming on the Prinsendam so are hoping for another great small ship voyage!

 

Thank you!

Edited May 28, 2014 by sunsetbeachgal

[Mtn2Sea]

Sounds like you had a great time. Thanks for writing such an informative review and pointing out the differences you found in the three ships.

[IRL_Joanie]

It is great to see a post by your Maureen!! I had not realized (or just plain forgot in my old age) that you were on a cruise or 3:) Better than what I feared, Firefighting!!

 

I hope hunny reads your review after I point it out to him because they way you did it is what I wish to do, but my wish is 4 legged, no air for me at all.

 

Again, Welcome back to HomeDam!!!

 

Joanie

[RMLincoln]

It is great to see a post by your Maureen!! I had not realized (or just plain forgot in my old age) that you were on a cruise or 3:) Better than what I feared, Firefighting!!

 

I hope hunny reads your review after I point it out to him because they way you did it is what I wish to do, but my wish is 4 legged, no air for me at all.

 

Again, Welcome back to HomeDam!!!

 

Joanie

Thanks so much Joanie, always good to be back to HomeDam! Our brutal fire season has been tempered briefly by the rain over the weekend. But we're hoping for El Nino to set up and bring us the deep relief of long term moisture that we need to break this very long drought.

The long trip was very special; we met up with Australian friends we had met on a cruise in 2010 and stayed with each couple a few days in different parts of OZ. Plus we finally met wonderful CC friends from the boards and from the roll call who spent time with us on Volendam giving us very helpful information for our visits to their countries. It was a grand opportunity and truly a trip of a lifetime.

I doubt we'll go to these places again, we may try to go to Europe, maybe UK, Norway fjords, maybe a river cruise and a transatlantic home later in 2015... may share part of the trip with my Italian cousins. It was a cousins trip to Italy in 2010 that put us on the transatlantic where we met the Australian folks, so it's a small world! The Ozzies have been here to NM and plan to return to this region in the spring, so we just hope we can all stay healthy to enjoy it. You and DH too!

Blessings, m--

PS No cruise booked now but a different type of "cruise" a Grand Canyon raft trip for my big number birthday in September! We'll see what else comes up... every day is a gift and treasured.

[Keith1010]

Enjoyed the review.

 

Keith

[Typhoon1]

Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts.

[KirkNC]

Thanks for the report! Interesting way to get around.

[Cruising-along]

Excellent! Love your review and the comparisons. Yes, it's a shock to find that Celebrity doesn't have a decent laundry program for new cruisers on their ships. :( But I agree, their Open Dining is great. You can even book your table before the cruise if you want to. (I just found this out) :)

[chrispb]

Nice combination of land and sea. Thanks for the write-up:)

[boards]

Enjoyed the three comparisons. We are going to be on the Volendam in Sept. on a similar cruise. We were wondering if you could comment on any of the tours you may have taken or at least recommend some. Are the towns interesting enough to just do a walk about?

[Time For Dreaming]

Thank you so much for this comparison review. It's one of the most interesting we've read. Never thought to take different cruises to avoid flying. What a dream vacation you had. Getting the cruise fever...

[cruz chic]

Loved this review. I found the food on Celebrity to be very good or very bad. Thx.

[RMLincoln]

Enjoyed the three comparisons. We are going to be on the Volendam in Sept. on a similar cruise. We were wondering if you could comment on any of the tours you may have taken or at least recommend some. Are the towns interesting enough to just do a walk about?

I don't know your itinerary so I'll list our port calls and what we did:

Hilo - shuttle bus to shopping center to use free WiFi; previously have taken Princess 1/2 day ShoreEx to excellent botanical gardens. Have also rented a car and driven up to the volcanoes, excellent choice. Bring your National Parks Pass. Easy to get the car with shuttles to the airport but be aware of how much time you have to work with, some ships are only in Hilo for a half day. Or take the ship tour and leave the driving to them.

Honolulu - walked to free WiFi ; but previously have taken "The Bus" (the local island bus, costs $2.50 pp each way or $1.25 with a Medicare card)both to Pearl Harbor (have done this now 3 times and well worth doing at least once) and to Waikiki. I'd take the bus again and that way you have more time in the museum at Pearl, but you must go first thing in the morning because they give out time-slot tickets for the launch that goes out into the harbor to the USS Arizona Memorial which is built over the sunken ship. If you go later in the day the tickets may be for several hours later or may be all given out. I think Pearl Harbor is free or we used our National Parks Pass, check on line. Have taken "The Bus" after lunch on board over to Waikiki for the afternoon and/or evening. Lots to do there. Some took "The Bus" around the island for an all-day tour but it's difficult to hop on hop off as these circle island buses don't run very often - check on line for the schedule. Shore excursions will go out to the Polynesian Cultural center which can be hard to get to on your own. it's pricey any way you go but will give you an excellent oversight of the many Polynesian places you will see on a S. Pacific cruise. We have rented a car which is easy on most Hawaiian islands. Bring or rent a Garmin. There are shuttles from the cruise dock to the nearby airport where you pick up the rental. This was a grand way to see the island, cheap too but more for the adventurous do it yourselfer. Remember never leave anything in a rental car in Hawaii, High theft rate.

Pago Pago - we did a ship tour half day bus tour overview and got to see some nice sights, would recommend and glad we did it but it was average to +

Suva Fiji - It was Sunday and most things were closed. We hired a taxi for $50 and he drove us around for a couple of hours, very nice, safe, easy, he showed us some good sights but again average or + for this sort of thing.

Port Vila Vanuatu - we walked to town and up to a high hill which had a memorial on it, took panorama pictures and walked back. Would never do that again. it was long, very hot with lots of aggressive vendors (think Jamaica) so that on our way out we had to walk the gauntlet for the first half mile. I'd take a taxi next time to town which is colorful with tons of shops including the huge local market.

Lifou New Caledonia - A picture perfect beach where I went snorkeling (not great snorkeling but lovely) and DH walked to a couple of picturesque churches to take photos. Better snorkeling was in the lagoon on the other side, a longer walk and $15 pp for use, bring your own gear. or take ship tour and enjoy the lagoon fish and coral, may be the only lagoon snorkel you get to do, depending on your itinerary.

Noumea New Caledonia - A city. We hired a mini-bus tour outside the cruise terminal for a ride around the area and had a very nice tour and commentary for $20 for both of us, but needed French Polynesian francs from the ATM.

Sydney - there's so much to do in Syndey I couldn't believe that many on our ship were going straight to the airport to fly all the way home. Stay a few days and take in the history at "The Rocks" museum (small but very well done, I went back twice), ferry across the harbor to Manly Beach (skip the outrageously priced dinner cruise, you'll do better taking any ferry and buying any dinner of your choice), take a tour of the Opera House, take a day trip out to the Blue Mountains (2 hours each way on the city train) or any of a hundred other things to do there. Buy a transit pass for the number of days you'll be there. It's a magnificent city, very friendly and helpful people, worth spending some in.

I hope these ideas help you, follow up questions and I'll do my best, but check out your roll call and the ports of call forums on CC for more info and ideas. m--

Edited May 28, 2014 by RMLincoln

[George C]

thanks for review, I hated MDR on Celeberity Solictice, after a couple of night we just ate at specialty resturants. We miss the Renaissance line which we sailed in 2001 just before they went under, loved the adults only and non-smoking

[boards]

Thank you. The ports are not exactly the same, but your comments are greatly appreciated.

[Gail & Marty sailing away]

Thanks for the report ..