Rudeness and bad manners - in the eye of the beholder?

[cruz chic]

At one point PJ bottoms in public were all the rage with the college crowd. I had to actually forbid them to be worn to early morning classes and got quite a bit of static from both students and some of my fellow faculty members who said the students were covered. I stuck to my guns. And as to robes on ships.... if I go the pool I have a wrap around skirt and T shirt I wear coming and going. Just call me old fashioned.

 

Susan

 

One of my colleagues wears pyjamas bottoms to work quite often. She's a certified accountant so highly educated and in her late 30’s. Her husband is a courier so doesn't work in an office. Apparently he's told her that it's not proper work attire. Some people just don't get it. I'm just waiting for pjs to become a formal outfit with the addition of a sparkly top :D;).

[POA1]

One of my colleagues wears pyjamas bottoms to work quite often. She's a certified accountant so highly educated and in her late 30’s. Her husband is a courier so doesn't work in an office. Apparently he's told her that it's not proper work attire. Some people just don't get it. I'm just waiting for pjs to become a formal outfit with the addition of a sparkly top :D;).

This is from MassLive out of the Bay State:

 

Formal Wear Now Consists of Dress Pajamas

 

http://www.masslive.com/living/index.ssf/2014/07/commentary_formal_wear_now_consists_of_dress_pajamas.html

 

It's an opinion piece, so don't take it to heart.

 

Do not forget sparkly flip flops or bedazzled Crocs. It's not formal without the bling. :D

[Se4deb]

How do you wear an entire bathroom into the Neptune Lounge (or anywhere else, for that matter)? I've got a picture in my head of an old cartoon I once saw, of a man wearing a bathtub, complete with faucets & water pipes, his legs sticking out of the bottom, with a shower cap on his head and carrying a plunger ...

 

it's late & I'm a little punchy, this just gave me a little giggle ...

 

Glad I could make you laugh. I just love auto correct. Don't you. I meant bathROBES, but I do like your visual. It would be better than the bathrobes and pjs that I have seen in the Neptune.

[taxmantoo]

This is from MassLive out of the Bay State:

 

Formal Wear Now Consists of Dress Pajamas

 

http://www.masslive.com/living/index.ssf/2014/07/commentary_formal_wear_now_consists_of_dress_pajamas.html

 

It's an opinion piece, so don't take it to heart.

 

Do not forget sparkly flip flops or bedazzled Crocs. It's not formal without the bling. :D

 

Here we go ... We have all heard more than enough of "nice" jeans, "nice" shirts, "nice" golf shirts and "nice" tops ... Now we're going to start hearing about "nice" pyjamas :eek:

[san diego sue]

Okay, the worst we ever experienced.

The Whistler

During a show(on HAL ship the Veendam), people right behind my ear, whistled really loud instead of applauding. If I had on a hearing aid it would have blown it out with my ear.

Since I have good hearing, my ear was ringing so bad. I turned around a couple of times, didn't know for sure it was the person so didn't say anything. I got to the point of putting my head down everytime I thought it would be coming. At the end of the show(It was a man), the wife looked at me and said I was a drama queen. I hadn't said a word to them. Good thing they ran out at that point. I was about to scream really loud. My ear was hurting all night and so was my husband's.Looking back I realized once I acted like it bothered me, he got much louder and went closer to me.

Would have gotten up and changed seats but none available and the show was really good.

This has happened on land as well. People don't understand how sharp sounding that is, right in front of the whistlers.

[EatonDoolittle]

Here we go ... We have all heard more than enough of "nice" jeans, "nice" shirts, "nice" golf shirts and "nice" tops ... Now we're going to start hearing about "nice" pyjamas :eek:

 

"Nice" camouflage.

Yep, from a thread about it being illegal in Barbados.

[lindaler]

Well, believe it or not, there was a lady with her feet up on the spot where you put your drinks in the casino. (Between the slot machines).

 

She removed her foot for one second when I sat down and then put it right back. Needless to say, I didn't stay at that machine:mad:

 

This is not uncommon at casinos. I am not sure why people to it but when I find a machine and someone had their feet up, I cross my legs so that my foot either makes them move their foot or play footies with me. 90% of the time it works. It is almost always a woman and maybe she wants you to notice her feet or shoes but it is rude to me.

[Vict0riann]

This is not uncommon at casinos. I am not sure why people to it but when I find a machine and someone had their feet up, I cross my legs so that my foot either makes them move their foot or play footies with me. 90% of the time it works. It is almost always a woman and maybe she wants you to notice her feet or shoes but it is rude to me.

 

Maybe she'd been sitting there so long, her ankles got swollen!:eek:

[gjt3rd]

Times are changing.

[kakalina]

If one does sit at a slot machine for a long time one does need to move around a bit. I guess I am guilty of the foot thing. I have short legs and quite often they don't reach the floor on the tall chairs they use there in the casino. The foot between the machines gives a feeling of stability.

To be perfectly honest it never crossed my mind it may bother some folks or that they might think it gross. I will try to mind my manners next time I am gambling.

[lindaler]

If one does sit at a slot machine for a long time one does need to move around a bit. I guess I am guilty of the foot thing. I have short legs and quite often they don't reach the floor on the tall chairs they use there in the casino. The foot between the machines gives a feeling of stability.

To be perfectly honest it never crossed my mind it may bother some folks or that they might think it gross. I will try to mind my manners next time I am gambling.

 

I think it is that most slot users put their coffee and pop on that space and so to them it is like putting your feet on the table.

[GRACECRUISE]

I am guilty of the foot thing. It stretches my back to put it there but I only do it if no one is sitting next to me. Once someone shows up I take it down. I also hit a good payout when my foot was there so now it becomes a good luck thing. When you play those slots, you need all the help you can get!

[take us away]

Okay, the worst we ever experienced.

The Whistler

During a show(on HAL ship the Veendam), people right behind my ear, whistled really loud instead of applauding. If I had on a hearing aid it would have blown it out with my ear.

Since I have good hearing, my ear was ringing so bad. I turned around a couple of times, didn't know for sure it was the person so didn't say anything. I got to the point of putting my head down everytime I thought it would be coming. At the end of the show(It was a man), the wife looked at me and said I was a drama queen. I hadn't said a word to them. Good thing they ran out at that point. I was about to scream really loud. My ear was hurting all night and so was my husband's.Looking back I realized once I acted like it bothered me, he got much louder and went closer to me.

Would have gotten up and changed seats but none available and the show was really good.

This has happened on land as well. People don't understand how sharp sounding that is, right in front of the whistlers.

 

Maybe if you had politely asked him to stop or to keep it down - who knows, it may have helped the situation but then again, maybe not.

[chrispb]

Here we go ... We have all heard more than enough of "nice" jeans, "nice" shirts, "nice" golf shirts and "nice" tops ... Now we're going to start hearing about "nice" pyjamas :eek:

 

We were taught at school not to use the word "nice". It's used a lot on these boards, especially in the examples you give. I wince whenever I see it.

[chrispb]

One of my colleagues wears pyjamas bottoms to work quite often. She's a certified accountant so highly educated and in her late 30’s. Her husband is a courier so doesn't work in an office. Apparently he's told her that it's not proper work attire. Some people just don't get it. I'm just waiting for pjs to become a formal outfit with the addition of a sparkly top :D;).

 

Are you sure they're pj's? Those ghastly trousers which have been popular this year look exactly like pajama bottoms. Even good old M&S have been selling them, yuck.

[cbr663]

Okay, the worst we ever experienced.

The Whistler

During a show(on HAL ship the Veendam), people right behind my ear, whistled really loud instead of applauding. If I had on a hearing aid it would have blown it out with my ear.

Since I have good hearing, my ear was ringing so bad. I turned around a couple of times, didn't know for sure it was the person so didn't say anything. I got to the point of putting my head down everytime I thought it would be coming. At the end of the show(It was a man), the wife looked at me and said I was a drama queen. I hadn't said a word to them. Good thing they ran out at that point. I was about to scream really loud. My ear was hurting all night and so was my husband's.Looking back I realized once I acted like it bothered me, he got much louder and went closer to me.

Would have gotten up and changed seats but none available and the show was really good.

This has happened on land as well. People don't understand how sharp sounding that is, right in front of the whistlers.

 

That would be absolutely awful. I do believe though that most people do understand how loud and sharp the whistle is, they just don't care.

 

I find it amazing the badges of honor that some people embrace. My father embraces the, "I am not going to do anything that I don't want to do" like it's a good thing. We all see it as being very rigid, selfish and inflexible and it has caused conflict in the family.

 

I know people who embrace the "tell it like it is", or the "you'll always get a honest answer", or the "not afraid to share my strong opinions" badges which we know are euphemisms for those who lack tact, diplomacy and courtesy.

 

People who use sarcasm are frequently seen as insulting, not funny and those who insist on constantly sharing their accomplishments are seen as braggarts and obnoxious and lacking substance. Yet, many still wear these badges of honor.

[Lizzie68]

We were taught at school not to use the word "nice". It's used a lot on these boards, especially in the examples you give. I wince whenever I see it.

 

 

Strange thing for a school to teach.

[Lizzie68]

Okay, the worst we ever experienced.

The Whistler

During a show(on HAL ship the Veendam), people right behind my ear, whistled really loud instead of applauding. If I had on a hearing aid it would have blown it out with my ear.

Since I have good hearing, my ear was ringing so bad. I turned around a couple of times, didn't know for sure it was the person so didn't say anything. I got to the point of putting my head down everytime I thought it would be coming. At the end of the show(It was a man), the wife looked at me and said I was a drama queen. I hadn't said a word to them. Good thing they ran out at that point. I was about to scream really loud. My ear was hurting all night and so was my husband's.Looking back I realized once I acted like it bothered me, he got much louder and went closer to me.

Would have gotten up and changed seats but none available and the show was really good.

This has happened on land as well. People don't understand how sharp sounding that is, right in front of the whistlers.

 

If you were about to scream really loud, as you said, then you were being a drama queen. I'm sure if you had asked the person politely they would have stopped. Even if you didn't know who it was, you could have asked in general of the people behind you. And I bet others would have agree with you, given the opening.

[cruz chic]

Are you sure they're pj's? Those ghastly trousers which have been popular this year look exactly like pajama bottoms. Even good old M&S have been selling them, yuck.

 

I don't really care if they are sold as pj's. If they look like it that bad enough. I've never seen flannel pants before but then that is not my style.

[MishelleMcc]

There NO bad days cruising! We are CRUISING!!!! It's my mantra anyway.... :-)

[babyher]

That would be absolutely awful. I do believe though that most people do understand how loud and sharp the whistle is, they just don't care.

 

I find it amazing the badges of honor that some people embrace. My father embraces the, "I am not going to do anything that I don't want to do" like it's a good thing. We all see it as being very rigid, selfish and inflexible and it has caused conflict in the family.

 

I know people who embrace the "tell it like it is", or the "you'll always get a honest answer", or the "not afraid to share my strong opinions" badges which we know are euphemisms for those who lack tact, diplomacy and courtesy.

 

People who use sarcasm are frequently seen as insulting, not funny and those who insist on constantly sharing their accomplishments are seen as braggarts and obnoxious and lacking substance. Yet, many still wear these badges of honor.

 

 

 

 

And usually the people that "tell it like it is " can sure dish it out , but they can't take it when others "tell it like it is " .

 

Ex mother in law was a prime example :(

 

 

I do have to admit I can be a sarcastic little SOB , and my DD is proof the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree . *LOL*

[nana51]

If you were about to scream really loud, as you said, then you were being a drama queen. I'm sure if you had asked the person politely they would have stopped. Even if you didn't know who it was, you could have asked in general of the people behind you. And I bet others would have agree with you, given the opening.

 

I'm sure the "about to scream" was not meant literally. I have had this experience and when I did turn around to tell them it was too loud and hurt my ears, (nicely I promise) all it did was encourage them to be even louder. Anyone who doesn't understand that whistling loudly is rude, is not going to care if it hurts your ears.

[cruz chic]

I'm sure the "about to scream" was not meant literally. I have had this experience and when I did turn around to tell them it was too loud and hurt my ears, (nicely I promise) all it did was encourage them to be even louder. Anyone who doesn't understand that whistling loudly is rude, is not going to care if it hurts your ears.

 

Agree with you. I've given up saying anything to rude people. They just don't seem to care about anyone around them. You can see how many people justify their behaviour.

[san diego sue]

Telling Whistlers it hurts your ears does nothing.That is why I didn't say a thing.

I was once at a show (on land). I turned around and asked politly if woman could stop, it was hurting my ears. She said, no, and there will be more of this coming, and there was more. At the end of the show I turned around to say something and she got really rude. Threaten physical harm to me. People are nuts.

The incident on the Veendam, the couple were probably in their late 70's , and you would think they would have learned some manners.

When I said I was ready to Scream (I mean let them have it, not scream like a banchy).

 

[cruz chic]

Telling Whistlers it hurts your ears does nothing.That is why I didn't say a thing.

I was once at a show (on land). I turned around and asked politly if woman could stop, it was hurting my ears. She said, no, and there will be more of this coming, and there was more. At the end of the show I turned around to say something and she got really rude. Threaten physical harm to me. People are nuts.

The incident on the Veendam, the couple were probably in their late 70's , and you would think they would have learned some manners.

When I said I was ready to Scream (I mean let them have it, not scream like a banchy).

 

 

I remember being in a mall not so long ago. A kid was blocking an escalator so I said to my sister I wish she would move. Well the father started laying into me staying all sorts of nasty things about me. The guy was bat crap crazy. Saying something to these idiots just spurs them on. It's pretty sad that some people don't even have the most basic social skills.

Edited October 22, 2014 by cruz chic