When someone leaves the ship in handcuffs

[lahlah57]

MENTAL NOTE.....I must pay attention to what is going on around me! This is exciting stuff;)

I would think the least of all the classless human behavior would be the beligerant drunks!

They are just yucky!

[Putterdude]

Its not a common occurrence but something that does happen. We were on a cruise where an adult male evidently made some unfortunate remarks to an 11 year old girl and was taken off the ship in handcuffs in Juneau. But we have seen it in other ports as well including FLL.

[Aquahound]

Watching the Galveston cruise cam can be interesting, especially when Carnival ships dock at Terminal one and as a common occurrence some one or group are escorted by Galveston's finest off the ship. My question is it a federal offense getting one's self arrested on board? If one act a fool on an airplane,it's a federal offense, so it would stand to reason acting a fool on another mode of transportation must be federal too.

 

What's the penalty normally?

 

What a way to end a vacation.

 

This is actually a topic I have a lot of experience with, if you know what I mean. ;) The most common reason people are taken off ship in cuffs is because of warrants. You can board a ship no problem with a warrant but if it's extraditable, you will be arrested upon hitting the first American port. In the vast majority of cases, it's a state or local warrant.

 

As for crimes committed on board, jurisdiction (state or federal) depends on the person, crime and location of the ship when the crime was committed.

 

When someone leaves the ship in handcuffs - it must be a Carnival ship. :D

 

Seriously, Carnival is well know for frequent fights between passengers. Google "cruise ship fight" and look at the videos. The first 10 or so videos were all taken on Carnival ships.

 

That actually is a pretty accurate statement. I see more passengers taken off Carnival ships than any other cruise line. When it comes to crew arrests, I'd say it's pretty even across the lines.

[Essiesmom]

Here's another instance of a person probably taken off in handcuffs.

 

http://www.abcnews4.com/story/29589426/man-arrested-on-child-pornography-charges-when-cruise-ship-docks-in-charleston

[CruisinHarvey]

We were on a western Caribbean cruise a couple of years ago, during the first week of spring break (we didn't know when we booked). Southern Florida colleges get a break sooner than most. 700 spring breakers, and no, it wasn't Carnival! Anyway, they threw 25 off in Cozumel. I heard they broke into the ships liquor storage. They had 2 in the brig. Officers waiting for them. They got mad late one night. They went behind the customer service desk, and trashed a $10,000 painting.

[capncarp]

As they go by, loudly ask them if they forgot the "safe word".;)

[Treven]

My late DH once witnessed an unpleasant event in Crows Nest where a male guest was being bothersome to a disinterested woman. He was extremely intoxicated, obnoxious and though the bartenders tried to 'talk him down' and get him to go to his cabin, he refused. Security was called, they removed him from Crows Nest, my DH said good night and left the bar. As he went toward the elevators, he saw the man on the ground and security trying to reason with this belligerent person. I won't go into the rest of the details but to say he was first off the ship the next morning...... never to return. :)

 

I just don't think there's any way to reason with someone like that, and I'm sure no one missed him after he was invited to disembark.

Edited July 21, 2015 by Treven

[screwsmcernst]

We have never seen anyone escorted off the ship with "Mandatory Jewelry," but when we were docked in St. Maarten, we watched as 2 young men who were walking back to the ship, got sniffed by drug dogs and then, the officers with BIG guns who were holding the leashes, invited the men to extend their stay on the island. =)

[GUT2407]

If it is at embarkation it will almost certainly be an outstanding warrant.

 

How stupid, outstanding warrant so you try and travel O/S.

[notentirelynormal]

Hmm, you guys got me to thinking. I wonder if this is what happened to our guy. I can only hope, right? Here is the story:

 

I don’t know about other cruise lines, but here’s a story about security on Princess. We were on the Island Princess. A man around 50 was traveling with his brother and mother. He came up to my DD and her friend (30 YO) and starting commenting on how pretty they were, and how he was a photographer and would they like him to take pictures of them. Ya right! Then he followed her friend. They’re big girls and can handle themselves but it freaked them out. The next day they saw him again and heard him saying the same thing to someone else. THEN we saw him with a younger mother with a small child and he followed her section to section in the photo gallery, basically crowding her. Heard him offer to take the little girl up on deck for ice cream. The feeling that comes to mind is stalking.

 

We told the photography desk – they called security. It took about 10 minutes for security to show up. During this time the photographer watched him and my DD’s friend kept him occupied. The reason the head of security took so long to get there – because he was in a meeting and immediately left the meeting to meet with the captain and other senior officers on the bridge to discuss how to handle this man. Since at the time they came down he was doing nothing except talking to another adult, they really couldn’t do anything. However, what they did do was follow him from that time forward. We saw him, we saw security watching. Then we never saw him again. The response to our concern was handled quickly and left us feeling a little more secure.

Edited July 21, 2015 by notentirelynormal

[SuiteTraveler]

We saw him, we saw security watching. Then we never saw him again. The response to our concern was handled quickly and left us feeling a little more secure.

 

Yuck, what a creep!

 

I applaud you for reporting the incident to ship's security.

[notentirelynormal]

Yuck, what a creep!

 

I applaud you for reporting the incident to ship's security.

 

He was super creepy. My daughter's friend was a longshoreman so not some shrinking violet. When he started talking to the little girl..... um :eek: no, not going to happen.

[sleepless]

Embarking was delayed on our first cruise on the Explorer several years ago. Drugs were found on board, and the local authorities spent an extra hour or two on board before they would clear the ship for new passengers.

 

On our B2B on in the Allure last year, we witnessed a not so happy man detained from leaving the ship. He was one of the last passengers to try to clear the ship, leaving just before the B2B guests. He became argumentative with the staff at the exit when told to wait. A call was placed, and several more crew came to the exit. He was detained on the side by several men, and the B2B guests were allowed to go around him and leave the ship. The man was then escorted off of the ship by armed security, kicking and screaming all the way. I resisted the urge to sing "Bad boy, bad boy, what you gonna do...."

[paul929207]

He was super creepy. My daughter's friend was a longshoreman so not some shrinking violet. When he started talking to the little girl..... um :eek: no, not going to happen.

Thanks for your concern and taking the necessary action

[4boysnana]

we have been on a few cruises when the police "escorted" someone off the ship.

 

we had a woman stowaway one time - ft lauderdale.

 

another time we had a young man who was trying to smuggle drugs into the country -- ft lauderdale.

 

and we had 3 young men who got rowdy in the ocean bar during happy hour. At our first port of call -- the police took them off the ship -- san juan.

 

in ft lauderdale disembarkation was held up because of the arrests -- ship could not be cleared until the police had done their duty.

 

have no idea what their penalities were.

 

 

 

 

stowaway????

[sprint180]

MENTAL NOTE.....I must pay attention to what is going on around me! This is exciting stuff;)

I would think the least of all the classless human behavior would be the beligerant drunks!

They are just yucky!

 

I guess! I've been on Princess, Carnival, and NCL. I've never seen any of this.

[notentirelynormal]

Thanks for your concern and taking the necessary action

 

While I appreciate people saying thank you for doing this....I can't imagine why anyone would not do this. It was bad enough this guy approaching young adult woman. But when he changed his target.... umm NO. It was a long time ago and still I think about this piece of garbage.

[Husky61]

And those warrants could be as simple as a bench warrant for failure to appear in court on something as non-threatening as passing bad checks. Saw it happen in Miami years ago. The extradition process could take weeks from Miami-Dade and that's a tough place to be for a white collar criminal.

 

Most jurisdiction will not enter a warrant into NCIC unless it is a felony and they agree to extradite.

[notentirelynormal]

Most jurisdiction will not enter a warrant into NCIC unless it is a felony and they agree to extradite.

 

I think the one that floatn is thinking about.

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/22/robin-hall-22-year-old-cigarette-shoplifting_n_2525578.html

Edited July 23, 2015 by notentirelynormal

[Husky61]

I think the one that floatn is thinking about.

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/22/robin-hall-22-year-old-cigarette-shoplifting_n_2525578.html

 

Since it was in state warrant she would not have to be extradited. Most warrants of that nature are usually dismissed, or if still active, the suspect is cited out with another promise to appear.

[Treven]

I think the one that floatn is thinking about.

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/22/robin-hall-22-year-old-cigarette-shoplifting_n_2525578.html

Guess I'm fortunate that my habit wasn't that strong, even tho I was a 3-pack a day smoker. Due to a brush with lung cancer,:eek: I quit :D in the mid 70s.

Edited July 24, 2015 by Treven

[sfaaa]

I think the one that floatn is thinking about.

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/22/robin-hall-22-year-old-cigarette-shoplifting_n_2525578.html

 

Bet she got an interior room instead of balcony suite at the post cruise crowbar hotel.

[Cruzaholic41]

Since it was in state warrant she would not have to be extradited.

 

This isn't accurate. The warrant was out of Orange County. She was arrested in Brevard County. There was still an extradition. If it was a "no extradition" warrant, Brevard County would not have been able to hold her.

[Husky61]

This isn't accurate. The warrant was out of Orange County. She was arrested in Brevard County. There was still an extradition. If it was a "no extradition" warrant, Brevard County would not have been able to hold her.

 

There is no extradition hearing for in state warrants. Extradition hearings are only held for people in custody for out of state warrants.:)

[Aquahound]

There is no extradition hearing for in state warrants. Extradition hearings are only held for people in custody for out of state warrants.:)

 

I understand what you are saying ref extradition being between states, but Cruzaholic41 also had it correct. In the state of Florida, as in most states, the issuing agency has to enter the extent of the extradition. Minor warrants usually either say no extradition, surrounding counties only, in-state only, surrounding states only, and so on. Either way, anything outside of the issuing county is still considered an extradition.

 

In the case someone else cited, given the distance between those counties, that particular warrant had to of, at least, said Florida extradition.

Edited July 24, 2015 by Aquahound