Ocean Medallions: Is Princess Ending the Program before it began.

[jlp20]

There will be around three people who can look up the location of a person on board, and the captain is not even one of these. The only ones who will have access are specific security personnel.

Unfortunately Princess was unaware of this in their press releases. The boast was anyone in your party could use any screen on the ship to locate any member of your party in real time. By the way, which one of the "three" will have the job of directing the drink runner to pax location for that delivery?

[jlp20]

When we were at the Ruby...we were told by a senior officer that the wiring for Ocean Medallion will be installed during the upcoming drydock.

If you know, would this just be the hardwiring of ship or actual start of cabin ***** installs. We will be on Ruby soon after drydock

[bobby3334]

So should we not report what we were told? A simple thanks for the info, I'll believe it when I see it would have sufficed.

 

I didn't mean to question you but only to point out that everyone from the Captain to the steward has been giving opposite and contradictory answers to the ***** questions since I believe they have been told these contradictory answers from various management people who just don't want to say "I don't know if it is going to work any time soon in any entire ship" If you read any thread on the ***** this has been going on for over nine months. You can report anything you wish but read the past threads and you will find statements such as "the Captain told us it would be finished by the end of the month". Take everything with a grain of salt.

[TheRabbit]

Unfortunately Princess was unaware of this in their press releases. The boast was anyone in your party could use any screen on the ship to locate any member of your party in real time. By the way, which one of the "three" will have the job of directing the drink runner to pax location for that delivery?

If you order a drink, you have told them where you wanted it delivered. They have your picture to find you along with the RFI of your device.

 

If you don't want to use it, as the FAQ sheet says, just put your device in safety only mode.

 

I find it totally amassing as to the fear of being tracked. LOL:eek:

[ATSEAMYLIFE]

Because they can and then use that information to extract more revenue out of us.

 

Exactly how does a passive ***** RFID extract more revenue from me than I wouldn't already spend? If it ain't a gun it's not forcing me to do anything.

[TheRabbit]

Exactly how does a passive ***** RFID extract more revenue from me than I wouldn't already spend? If it ain't a gun it's not forcing me to do anything.

Amen!

[capriccio]

If you know, would this just be the hardwiring of ship or actual start of cabin ***** installs. We will be on Ruby soon after drydock

 

We were told specifically wiring. Cabin ***** installs were not mentioned.

[land lover]

I am a very spontaneous person, from day to day and cruise to cruise my habits totally change.

I seldom have the same drink more than once on a cruise etc..etc.. Good luck trying to get valuable marketable info on me....;p

[bobby3334]

The key is if they can get it to work on one entire ship, named the Caribbean Princess which they have been working on all year since they gave up on the Regal. There is a rumor on various threads that it will by the first few days in August. If they can’t get it to work for the entire ship by then my guess is all other information about all other ships will be “fake news.”

 

 

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[neverbeenhere]

Modeling and “adjusting” consumer spending behaviors is not about any one particular individual. After obtaining masses of data, very simple adjustments can be made to the shopping environment that will “encourage “ additional spending. (Think the positioning of products on the grocery shelves, etc)

[leck57]

I am a very spontaneous person, from day to day and cruise to cruise my habits totally change.

I seldom have the same drink more than once on a cruise etc..etc.. Good luck trying to get valuable marketable info on me....;p

 

You'll probably get hammered by marketing stuff!! You drink anything, perhaps eat at every different place - they might as well market you everything!

[caribill]

Because they can and then use that information to extract more revenue out of us.

I will use an RFID sleeve to avoid the medallion being read if any of my cruises has this technology.

 

Yes, it is a path to more revenue, but it also can save Princess money by speeding up other work processes. For example, the original concept allowed you to keep the ***** in your pocket and let you walk off the ship without having to pull it out to be scanned. Ditto returning to the ship.

 

Used properly, it could also alert the Anytime Dining Room hostess that you belong in Traditional.

[caribill]

The key is if they can get it to work on one entire ship, named the Caribbean Princess which they have been working on all year since they gave up on the Regal.

 

The USA based implementation crew worked on the Regal until it left for the summer season in Europe. They then started to work on the CB since it is USA based this summer.

 

Thus they did not "give up" on the Regal, they let their US based team remain US based over the summer. They have not worked on the CB "all year," just since the Regal left for Europe.

[bobby3334]

I agree with all but they were already several months late on the Regal. Now they have concentrated on the Caribbean Princess at least since March...is the ship ready with the *****? It matters little to me. I have been on the Regal and did the TA. My point is if after many months late if neither the entire Regal or the Caribbean are so late what reason is there to discuss timing of the program on the rest of the fleet?

 

 

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[fishin' musician]

Exactly how does a passive ***** RFID extract more revenue from me than I wouldn't already spend? If it ain't a gun it's not forcing me to do anything.

 

Nobody will be forced, but all will be coerced. I'm guessing the ***** version of the Patter will likely be "personalized" to market goods and services based on which venues one visits and what "extras" they purchase... just like when your browser now capitalizes/markets based on your recent activities.

[ATSEAMYLIFE]

Nobody will be forced' date=' but all will be coerced. I'm guessing the ***** version of the Patter will likely be "personalized" to market goods and services based on which venues one visits and what "extras" they purchase... just like when your browser now capitalizes/markets based on your recent activities.[/quote']

 

 

Personally, I would prefer advertising based on my interests, rather than just the shotgun approach. I don't consider that coercion, just good marketing.

[bobby3334]

Frankly I think they are interested in how to fill enormous space that will be left

When “original art” and diamond and watch stores are eliminated. I have taken dozens of cruises but have never meant anyone that bought these. Apparently they were money makers at one time for all concerned but are dying out. The forests will be happy.... not to mention the passengers.

 

 

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[land lover]

You'll probably get hammered by marketing stuff!! You drink anything, perhaps eat at every different place - they might as well market you everything!

 

 

You're right...I get it ALL now.....:D;pBecause I am a potential consumer, on every product.

 

 

For the 15-20 years at the grocery stores, in the States & probably in OZ and many other areas. The companies use our loyalty cards to track everything...I get so many freebees from manufactures in conglomeration with the markets. Most recently I can see all my receipts from all my shopping trips on-line. For years If I want to order on line for delivery..everything is a click away.

 

 

I can just see princess offering certain opportunities to certain people while on the ship, just like they do on -line.

[FoghornLeghorn]

Personally, I'm waiting for the curtis stone signature medallion.

Lol

 

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[caribill]

Personally, I would prefer advertising based on my interests, rather than just the shotgun approach. I don't consider that coercion, just good marketing.

 

I once Googled about a mattress. For months afterward I had ads about that mattress on many screens. I do not consider that good marketing. I consider it annoying.

[Grego]

Still hoping for all concerned that the ***** will be a whole ship implementation by December of this year. I really like the technology and the endless possiblities that it will provide for both the cruise line and the passenger.

Fingers are crossed that the ***** will be on our New Year's Eve voyage this year.

[voljeep]

I think most important for new, like, for sure, and for the more seasoned travelers is now high speed, reliable, low cost unlimited internets for streaming, facetime/Skype, emails, etc.

 

Now I realize that Princess/Carnival may not be able to control all the factors that go into this - the placing of satellites - and the cost may be prohibited - but maybe that should have been in place before the ***** fiasco

 

anyway, it looks like medallion.net is a start - but how many Princess ships have that now?

[ATSEAMYLIFE]

I once Googled about a mattress. For months afterward I had ads about that mattress on many screens. I do not consider that good marketing. I consider it annoying.

 

Maybe, but there's a real simple solution to that. All mine seem to be about travel and cruises.

[Sue Do-Over]

Modeling and “adjusting” consumer spending behaviors is not about any one particular individual. After obtaining masses of data, very simple adjustments can be made to the shopping environment that will “encourage “ additional spending. (Think the positioning of products on the grocery shelves, etc)

 

I agree. It's not 'you' they are tracking, but by grouping together similar people, they can adjust programs to make you happier, get you to come back, and spend more while you're here.

 

Example: Identify my demographics (50y female, traveling with female companions)… which shows/games/events did we attend? Did we rush from trivia at one end of the ship to bingo at the other? Which path did we take? Did I order room-service? Which dinner seating? How long did we wait to be seated?

 

Then, compare my profile to m/f couples, or older people, or families with kids, to people with mobility challenges, casino gamblers, those who shop more, or drink more, or only eat at specialty restaurants.

 

Before a cruise sails, the entertainment team could look at stats of the guest list (in total) and say, gosh, this cruise is loaded with gal-pals, so we're going to need more movie trivia, and less sports trivia. And make sure there is a big $10 sale! They adjust the daily event schedule based on pax interest and requests.

 

 

I know, because I'm a market research professional... we collect data either by observing or surveying, and use it to optimize experiences. Happy people come back, and if you put something in front of someone the moment they realize they need it (like selling bottled water as you debark on a hot beach day)… you're happy.

 

Honestly, we don't waste time looking at individuals, but for patterns among groups with similar characteristics. We only follow the 'one' when something went wrong and we need to find out where/when/how a problem occurred.

[ATSEAMYLIFE]

I agree. It's not 'you' they are tracking.

 

I know, because I'm a market research professional... we collect data either by observing or surveying, and use it to optimize experiences. Happy people come back, and if you put something in front of someone the moment they realize they need it (like selling bottled water as you debark on a hot beach day)… you're happy.

 

Honestly, we don't waste time looking at individuals, but for patterns among groups with similar characteristics. We only follow the 'one' when something went wrong and we need to find out where/when/how a problem occurred.

 

Thank God they aren't tracking me, BORING!!!! As the marketing research "professional" said, "It ain't about you". It's about the masses like you.